Why are we so polarized?

[uscitizen]

United we Stand, divided we fall.

And we be fallin.

 

[peach174]

It's the basic battle of Good v/s Evil. Conservatives champion morals, God, country, Capitalism, liberty.

LEFTISTS champion secularism, socialism, apoligizing for American exceptonalism...

Any moderate democrat will tell you they do not reconize their party any longer. It was hijacked by fringe extremists.. I have an Aunt and Uncle who for the very first time in their lives will vote republican this year. Both are hard core democrats and one voted for Obama last time, my uncle. They are christians and can no longer be a part of what Democrats now represent. Good always overcomes evil so I know this fight for our nation's soul is one Conservatives can and will win.

Actually..you sort of hit the nail on the head.

The Constitution is not a "moral" document. It is one that defines rights and how government should be constructed.

That has very little to do with morality..and nothing to do with religion.

Yes it is.
John Adams would disagree with you.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.

Without morals and individual responsibility, government must control the masses. This is what has happened.
Our government now controls the people of America. Our government does not abide by the Constitution. They think that they can do anything they want to do and disguises it under the general welfare part of the Constitution.
Article 1 section 8 clearly defines what the fed government is able to do and they are totally out of control now in both parties.

 

[auditor0007]

It's the basic battle of Good v/s Evil. Conservatives champion morals, God, country, Capitalism, liberty.

LEFTISTS champion secularism, socialism, apoligizing for American exceptonalism...

Any moderate democrat will tell you they do not reconize their party any longer. It was hijacked by fringe extremists.. I have an Aunt and Uncle who for the very first time in their lives will vote republican this year. Both are hard core democrats and one voted for Obama last time, my uncle. They are christians and can no longer be a part of what Democrats now represent. Good always overcomes evil so I know this fight for our nation's soul is one Conservatives can and will win.

As a moderate Republican, I will be voting Democrat for the first time in my life because the Republican Party has been hijacked by the fringe extremists. Just ask Chuck Hagel.

Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP

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When moderate Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) resigned his leadership post in the Senate last year, that was a clear indication that the party had no room left for internal dissent, according to Hagel.

Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP | The Cable

LMFAO It's been noted and pointed out MANY times that no one here believes you were ever anything but a liberal so save your road kill for someone who gives a shit.

I don't care if you give a shit or not. The first time I voted in a presidential election was in 1984 and I voted for Reagan. I even voted for Dole. You really should take the blinders off. BTW, I donated to Romney's campaign in 2008.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

As a moderate Republican, I will be voting Democrat for the first time in my life because the Republican Party has been hijacked by the fringe extremists. Just ask Chuck Hagel.

Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP



Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP | The Cable

LMFAO It's been noted and pointed out MANY times that no one here believes you were ever anything but a liberal so save your road kill for someone who gives a shit.

I don't care if you give a shit or not. The first time I voted in a presidential election was in 1984 and I voted for Reagan. I even voted for Dole. You really should take the blinders off. BTW, I donated to Romney's campaign in 2008.

Yea sure.. We have a President who is a hard left self proclaimed Socialist (Redistribution of wealth) who has all but destroyed capitalism and sunk us in debt by another 7 trillion after this year's budet and for the first time, you a republican will vote for the Socialist. ROFLMAO------------------ I've got some land to sell you.. Tony Rezko gave it to me!!

 

[Katzndogz]

We are as polarized as the thief in an alley is polarized from the victim who thinks the money in his wallet is his. The thief thinks it's his. That's the kind of polarization we have and there will be no compromise.

 

[WillowTree]

United we Stand, divided we fall.

And we be fallin.

does the divider in chief understand what he's done?

 

[WillowTree]

As a moderate Republican, I will be voting Democrat for the first time in my life because the Republican Party has been hijacked by the fringe extremists. Just ask Chuck Hagel.

Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP



Hagel: Reagan wouldn't identify with today's GOP | The Cable

LMFAO It's been noted and pointed out MANY times that no one here believes you were ever anything but a liberal so save your road kill for someone who gives a shit.

I don't care if you give a shit or not. The first time I voted in a presidential election was in 1984 and I voted for Reagan. I even voted for Dole. You really should take the blinders off. BTW, I donated to Romney's campaign in 2008.

So you must actually believe that Republicans are MORE extreme than obummer? So you're going willingly to the polls and vote for a 20 trillion dollar debt, a decimation of our military, an EPA that will kill our energy production and a moocher nation? Boy you do some good thinking I gotta hand ya that!

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

United we Stand, divided we fall.

And we be fallin.

does the divider in chief understand what he's done?

Hell, let's go our separate ways.. I'm all for it. Who will liberals get to work to support their social programs and bums though?

 

[WillowTree]

I vote Auditor the smartest brain on the planet. KNOT.

 

[peach174]

None of the companies are hording wealth Steelplate.
They are holding back because of the policies from government.
They have to balance their books and have to make a profit in order to hire and expand. You can't do that when you can't do the figures of government policies cost.

Yet they seem to be making more in profits than ever in our history. Are your SURE you are getting the truth from the Pro-Business media?

Having owned a business of my own at one time. I don't need pro business media.
Sure they are making more profits. When you don't spend your profits on expansion with more employes you make more money.
When the government gives you healthcare that will cost you more for each employee and EPA is making you spend more in regulations, that money is not being used to expand your business, nor can you afford to hire more employees unless you are a very large corporation.

 

[auditor0007]

LMFAO It's been noted and pointed out MANY times that no one here believes you were ever anything but a liberal so save your road kill for someone who gives a shit.

I don't care if you give a shit or not. The first time I voted in a presidential election was in 1984 and I voted for Reagan. I even voted for Dole. You really should take the blinders off. BTW, I donated to Romney's campaign in 2008.

Yea sure.. We have a President who is a hard left self proclaimed Socialist (Redistribution of wealth) who has all but destroyed capitalism and sunk us in debt by another 7 trillion after this year's budet and for the first time, you a republican will vote for the Socialist. ROFLMAO------------------ I've got some land to sell you.. Tony Rezko gave it to me!!

Obama is as much of a socialist as GW Bush, wouldn't you say?

Obama to date has kept the Bush tax cuts in place while actually adding a few more tax cuts. Socialists don't cut taxes. Now if you want to call Obama a socialist because he got us out of a war that we probably shouldn't have been involved in the first place, then I guess I'm a socialist. As for spending, wasn't it GW who expanded the drug benefit for Medicare? How socialist of him, wouldn't you say?

Most of you have no clue what a socialist is.

 

[Full-Auto]

An interesting article from BBC. I think sites like this, Brietbart, Daily Kos and the likes of Fox and MSNBC are first and foremost among the culprits. The internet has allowed us to accomplish a great deal, but the drawbacks are becoming more apparent with each passing year. Also, much of MSM has dropped it's impartiality in favor of gaining ratings with those who want news spun their way. I don't know if it will ever get better.

Well, now I see that I have to have 15 points (whatever the hell those are) to post a link to other sites. Kinda silly. Anyway the article is on BBC's web page and is called "What happened to America's community spirit?", if some one with this ponderous posting privilege is inclined to link it.

I wonder if I can say that.

I havent paid any attention to the opening rules in quite some time.

Isnt it 15 posts and not points.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I don't care if you give a shit or not. The first time I voted in a presidential election was in 1984 and I voted for Reagan. I even voted for Dole. You really should take the blinders off. BTW, I donated to Romney's campaign in 2008.

Yea sure.. We have a President who is a hard left self proclaimed Socialist (Redistribution of wealth) who has all but destroyed capitalism and sunk us in debt by another 7 trillion after this year's budet and for the first time, you a republican will vote for the Socialist. ROFLMAO------------------ I've got some land to sell you.. Tony Rezko gave it to me!!

Obama is as much of a socialist as GW Bush, wouldn't you say?

Obama to date has kept the Bush tax cuts in place while actually adding a few more tax cuts. Socialists don't cut taxes. Now if you want to call Obama a socialist because he got us out of a war that we probably shouldn't have been involved in the first place, then I guess I'm a socialist. As for spending, wasn't it GW who expanded the drug benefit for Medicare? How socialist of him, wouldn't you say?

Most of you have no clue what a socialist is.

I didn't vote for that idiot George Bush nor will I vote for the idiot Obama..BUT YOU WILL. Kinda made yourself out to be an ass hmm? How does that feel?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Oh and BTW- Redistribution of wealth IS SOCIALISM.

 

[Steelplate]

United we Stand, divided we fall.

And we be fallin.

does the divider in chief understand what he's done?

Hell, let's go our separate ways.. I'm all for it. Who will liberals get to work to support their social programs and bums though?

Funny...you do realize that it's the red States that suck up most of the milk from the government teat, don't you?

 

[auditor0007]

None of the companies are hording wealth Steelplate.
They are holding back because of the policies from government.
They have to balance their books and have to make a profit in order to hire and expand. You can't do that when you can't do the figures of government policies cost.

Yet they seem to be making more in profits than ever in our history. Are your SURE you are getting the truth from the Pro-Business media?

Having owned a business of my own at one time. I don't need pro business media.
Sure they are making more profits. When you don't spend your profits on expansion with more employes you make more money.
When the government gives you healthcare that will cost you more for each employee and EPA is making you spend more in regulations, that money is not being used to expand your business, nor can you afford to hire more employees unless you are a very large corporation.

You just stated that they are making more profits but they can't afford to hire more employees or expand their businesses. That is a complete contradiction.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

does the divider in chief understand what he's done?

Hell, let's go our separate ways.. I'm all for it. Who will liberals get to work to support their social programs and bums though?

Funny...you do realize that it's the red States that suck up most of the milk from the government teat, don't you?

I asked a simple question.. You liberals love welfare and champion social programs. Who the hell is going to work to provide all of the TRILLIONS of dollars to support your welfare state??

 

[Meathead]

Who cares what they call Obama?! It's going to take decades to get over a mountain debt that he and Bush incurred. With a second Obama administration that mountain will become the frigging Himalayas.

 

[Steelplate]

Hell, let's go our separate ways.. I'm all for it. Who will liberals get to work to support their social programs and bums though?

Funny...you do realize that it's the red States that suck up most of the milk from the government teat, don't you?

I asked a simple question.. You liberals love welfare and champion social programs. Who the hell is going to work to provide all of the TRILLIONS of dollars to support your welfare state??

I don't "love" welfare....I do champion social programs because they are necessary.

Let me ask you something....why don't you criticize the Capitalists that make those programs necessary? Why don't you support. working people and only support those that profit off of them? If those people are so essential and working folk are so expendible....let's have a private sector, nationwide strike and let's see how much gets done.

Oh...but that's right....you don't believe that the workforce has any rights....they are the "job creator's" bitches.

We don't need more government programs....we need a Teddy Roosevelt behind the helm and a Lech Walesa to tally the workforce.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Funny...you do realize that it's the red States that suck up most of the milk from the government teat, don't you?

I asked a simple question.. You liberals love welfare and champion social programs. Who the hell is going to work to provide all of the TRILLIONS of dollars to support your welfare state??

I don't "love" welfare....I do champion social programs because they are necessary.

Let me ask you something....why don't you criticize the Capitalists that make those programs necessary? Why don't you support. working people and only support those that profit off of them? If those people are so essential and working folk are so expendible....let's have a private sector, nationwide strike and let's see how much gets done.

Oh...but that's right....you don't believe that the workforce has any rights....they are the "job creator's" bitches.

We don't need more government programs....we need a Teddy Roosevelt behind the helm and a Lech Walesa to tally the workforce.

WTF are you babbling about?? Again, you refused to answer the question because the truth is, LIBERALISM aka SOCIALISM has never worked and would fall flat on its fucking face. You constantly assign your thought process (which btw is really fucked up) to me.. Where the hell did I say I don't believe in workforce rights?? SHOW ME. You're useless to debate.. all you do is make up shit, strawmen.