yidnar
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don't worry ..thanks to affirmative action you don't have to get the answer right !!I honestly don't know how to answer your question.
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don't worry ..thanks to affirmative action you don't have to get the answer right !!I honestly don't know how to answer your question.
My answer is the truth. One that is cold, but right.
Blacks can't compete with whites or east asians. Not even close.
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The question in context almost sounds like "blacks have opportunity why are their still blacks in poverty?" My friend its called social dynamics. Do you honestly think since post-dynasty times Africa was purely inhabited by just black africans? You had portugese, french, spanish, romans, greeks british and others who capitalized on the indigenous people's resources. Not to mention the plague of warring factions, genocide, and HIV/AIDS and you ask this question?
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Did you think Alexandria was an African name?
And the Arabs ruled over Spain at one point, Europe had musical chairs of tribal leaders during the middle ages. Some parts in Africa were inhabited by non-Blacks! What is your point?
And warring engulfed most parts of the world at one point. Europe has been destroyed time and time again. The US had a costly and bloody civil war to which we came out of (yet there was a period of reconstruction, but we overcame it rather quickly).
Russia had a TOTAL collaspe of it's economic and political system and now they are an emerging market.
India has all the items you mentioned and they are an emerging super-power.
Japan was hit with the atomic bomb and became the 2nd largest economy in the world within decades.
South Korea had one of the most devastating civil wars in history and managed to become an industrialized 1st world nation.
Not sure what your thesis is?
I have to say - I think it is very difficult to get a handle on this if you have never been to black Africa.
Oil is the only resource out there ya know! Most European countries don't have oil. Most of the countries of African have many other resources. Like Madacasgar has the largest reserves of bourbon vanilla in the world. In fact most of the vanilla in the world comes from Madacasgar. The Congo is LUSH in diamonds, other precious metals and a ton of materials required for medicines.
Some countries have oil, such as Nigeria (OPEC nation) and Southern Sudan!
Sounds like there is not much "Trickle Down" in those countries and the available wealth is being monopolized by the wealthy few
That is because they don't practice trickle down!
That is a little of a red herring response. Just going to a country doesn't refute the point that these countries are dirt poor, plagued with violence, genocide and AIDS and there seems no hope of that changing!I have to say - I think it is very difficult to get a handle on this if you have never been to black Africa.
Again red herring. Asia has many different cultures, backgrounds, religions and countries, yet MANY are thriving. Same with Europe and even Latin America is seeing some countries emerge (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Costa Rica, Colombia even Mexico).It is not one place - it is an entire continent of vastly different cultures. There are 51 countrie in Africa -
Again another Red Herring. Bolivia does have much in common to other Latin American countries and some differences, just as African countries have much in common with out another and some differences.many of them have no more in common than Bolivia and the US do.
Not as much as an excuse anymore. Much of Europe, mother Russia, China, Japan and Korea (Korean War) were destroyed in war. Yet they emerged. Believe it or not colonization, such as in South Africa, provided some infrastructure that the natives squandered when they took over. Zimbabwae and South Africa are by far the best examples of this! South Africa actually was the first industrialize country in Africa, once the Black South Africans took over, it slowly by surely resorted back to a 3rd world country, AIDS, murder, rape and baby rape capital of the world!Most were colonised, but some were not.
That is a fallacy and you know it. Most are FLOODED in resources (such as the materials for medicine) and some have less resources. Sub0-Saharra-Africa (which black Africa is in) is flooded in natural resources.Many have no resources - but some have plenty.
Incorrect and apologetic. All those are obstacles for success that can be obtained. However, every country, INCLUDING Europe and the USA have major obstacles in their way to success. Overcoming those obstacles makes the country stronger not weaker! Using those obstacles as an excuse for the failed society makes them weaker not stronger.And yet all of those factors have been crucial in the cycle of poverty.
Not one of those countries are successful or even close to it!Ghana, Senegal, Botswana and Rwanda are all doing well - but why?
Sounds like there is not much "Trickle Down" in those countries and the available wealth is being monopolized by the wealthy few
That is because they don't practice trickle down!
Does anyone?
They have the most rapidly growing middle class in the world.
The powerful middle class in China - Apr. 25, 2012
Q. What is the future of the Chinese middle class?
A. The Chinese middle class may grow to 700 to 800 million (currently at 300-400 mil), which is 50% to 60% of China's entire population.
don't worry ..thanks to affirmative action you don't have to get the answer right !!I honestly don't know how to answer your question.
Just going to a country doesn't refute the point that these countries are dirt poor, plagued with violence, genocide and AIDS and there seems no hope of that changing!
Not one of those countries are successful or even close to it!
Just going to a country doesn't refute the point that these countries are dirt poor, plagued with violence, genocide and AIDS and there seems no hope of that changing!
Seeing thing first hand does matter - because anything is simply a presumption.
And we know this, because I listed 4 successful countries that I have been to recently.
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The question in context almost sounds like "blacks have opportunity why are their still blacks in poverty?" My friend its called social dynamics. Do you honestly think since post-dynasty times Africa was purely inhabited by just black africans? You had portugese, french, spanish, romans, greeks british and others who capitalized on the indigenous people's resources. Not to mention the plague of warring factions, genocide, and HIV/AIDS and you ask this question?
****SPOILER****
Did you think Alexandria was an African name?
And the Arabs ruled over Spain at one point, Europe had musical chairs of tribal leaders during the middle ages. Some parts in Africa were inhabited by non-Blacks! What is your point?
And warring engulfed most parts of the world at one point. Europe has been destroyed time and time again. The US had a costly and bloody civil war to which we came out of (yet there was a period of reconstruction, but we overcame it rather quickly).
Russia had a TOTAL collaspe of it's economic and political system and now they are an emerging market.
India has all the items you mentioned and they are an emerging super-power.
Japan was hit with the atomic bomb and became the 2nd largest economy in the world within decades.
South Korea had one of the most devastating civil wars in history and managed to become an industrialized 1st world nation.
Not sure what your thesis is?
I'm not writing a thesis nor are the countries you mentioned are relevant. There are still portugese, french, british, Danish, and Europeans still inhabiting Africa after centuries. You're talking about various ethnic groups who descend from their relatives who occupied those lands for centuries. Unfortunately due to the technological age the indigenous Africans lived in, there was no expulsion of these foreigners so yes the various European inhabitants are still there taking resources. Who primarily owns the diamond mines in Central and Southern Africa? The Danish do. Who mostly occupies Southern Africa? Danish do. Who has monopolized African oil? Not the indigenous people. So please spare me the comparison model cause it doesn't work in a debate. we are talking about Europeans still occupying lands to which they were not born in.
The 10 Poorest Countries in the World | Fox Business
9 out of 10 are in non-Arab Africa (meaning Black Africa)! The leader is Haiti. Haiti is a country founded by France in which they imported slaves from Africa. More slaves then slave owners equates to a bad situation. The slaves revolted and massacred every white man, women and children in the island. Hence the country is of African descendents. They were the 2nd country to gain independence in the western world, yet they remain the poorest country in the world.
But I digress, why are all of the top 10 the poorest and worst off? Why are they plagued with genocide, war, famine, AIDS, rape and misery indexes off the charts! Yet most of these countries are lush in resources and have plush farm land.
I will get the racist card tossed at me, so the question will never be answered, but is it about time this question gets answered?
Why has non-Arab Africa NEVER had a civilized, rich and successful society or country?
The 10 Poorest Countries in the World | Fox Business
9 out of 10 are in non-Arab Africa (meaning Black Africa)! The leader is Haiti. Haiti is a country founded by France in which they imported slaves from Africa. More slaves then slave owners equates to a bad situation. The slaves revolted and massacred every white man, women and children in the island. Hence the country is of African descendents. They were the 2nd country to gain independence in the western world, yet they remain the poorest country in the world.
But I digress, why are all of the top 10 the poorest and worst off? Why are they plagued with genocide, war, famine, AIDS, rape and misery indexes off the charts! Yet most of these countries are lush in resources and have plush farm land.
I will get the racist card tossed at me, so the question will never be answered, but is it about time this question gets answered?
Why has non-Arab Africa NEVER had a civilized, rich and successful society or country?
Primarily because they aren't really "countries" at all, their boundaries were drawn by occupation forces. And their governments are for the most part in the pockets of big western corporate interest.
- the drawing of national boundaries with no regard to nationalities
- war
- climate
- lack of rule of law
- corrupt and venal leadership
- bad policies
The 10 Poorest Countries in the World | Fox Business
9 out of 10 are in non-Arab Africa (meaning Black Africa)! The leader is Haiti. Haiti is a country founded by France in which they imported slaves from Africa. More slaves then slave owners equates to a bad situation. The slaves revolted and massacred every white man, women and children in the island. Hence the country is of African descendents. They were the 2nd country to gain independence in the western world, yet they remain the poorest country in the world.
But I digress, why are all of the top 10 the poorest and worst off? Why are they plagued with genocide, war, famine, AIDS, rape and misery indexes off the charts! Yet most of these countries are lush in resources and have plush farm land.
I will get the racist card tossed at me, so the question will never be answered, but is it about time this question gets answered?
Why has non-Arab Africa NEVER had a civilized, rich and successful society or country?
Primarily because they aren't really "countries" at all, their boundaries were drawn by occupation forces. And their governments are for the most part in the pockets of big western corporate interest.