Why are liberals in support of Obamacare

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    As you can see, this question is for liberals.
    So go ahead. Fire away.
    A couple of conditions...If you elect to make a statement such as " all Americans will be covered" , you will provide facts to support the claim accompanied by link(s).
    If you render an opinion, word it as such and quantify it as opinion.
     
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    I'm an independent but I get branded as a liberal because I support things like the Affordable Care Act. I also support draconian measures to ensure voters are ID'd when they cast ballots....

    Anyway, I support the Affordable Care Act because of the provisions that you can have your children on your insurance until they turn 26, that insurance companies cannot turn you down because of PECs, and that the medicare donut hole will be closed.
     
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    So it takes 2/3's of the American economy, and nearly two trillion in ten years to do it???
    How on earth is this a good idea??
    Plus, there wont be insurance companies left after a while if they have to insure you no matter what... its that or no one will be able to afford the insurance.

    This is a bad law... no if ands or buts about it.



    What difference daes it make anyway? No one is listening.
     
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    I would think that there are easier ways to accomplish that, and more.
     
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    I'd like to focus on pre existing conditions for a moment. I say this because I think this is the one item that gets eliminated once the Act is fully implemented. It gets scuttled because it is not only unaffordable, it's unsustainable. I cannot see how every person with a disease or other ailment can receive coverage without having to pay a very high deductible. There's just no way the taxpayers can subsidize it.
    Medicare takes a huge hit with ACA. Where the replacement funding to take care of the ever increasing number of seniors is a mystery.
    Ok....With the things in Obamacare that make you happy, which of these directly affects you?
     
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    I think I read somewhere that only about 15% of Americans were uninsured :confused:

    If that is true... WOW :eek:

    One thing is for sure... we have to do everything we can to get this TAX repealed.
     
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    Right now, none.

    My parents are both dead but we did have trouble with the donut hole for her medicine. What was $10 when it was covered was upwards of $200 when it wasn't. A few weeks or months later, it was $10 again.

    I do not have kids. My assistant has two children she now keeps on our insurance plan at work. One is a special needs child and she is going to save upwards of $4,000 dollars if I heard correctly.

    Sidebar: This is one of the things about the Affordable Care Act that pissed me off frankly. My assistant has 2 kids who are in the 18-26 range and two more who are not. She has 4 kids on the insurance basically. I know many nurses in our system that have the same set-up...multiple kids on the company insurance. Good for them.
    Me, I don't have kids. Why can't I be allowed to put my widowed/widower parent (if they were still alive) on our insurance albeit at a higher rate than she pays for a 10 year old?

    As for the PEC's, I do not have any that preclude me from getting insured. As for your statement about PECs, I do not have any information about the premiums and how much the pricing will be when implemented fully.
     
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    So the insurance companies getting 30 million more customers will cause them to go out of business?
     
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    It is unsustainable.


    30 million is a drop in the bucket and you should know that.
     
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    No kidding. Corporate welfare through and through.
     

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