Why Are Leftist Commentators Making Doom&Gloom Predictions If Taxes Get Lowered?

[AntonToo]

Obie already explained it. Basically it's doesn't matter if raising taxes actually helps the economy it's about being fair.

and having to watch bob beeckel and jaun {on tthe Five} all those years trying to make it sound as if Obama was doing a great job with the economy in comparison to Bush?

Here's what really worries the left. If Trump can duplicate Reagan's economy with the same tactics they are fucked. They can't have that happen twice. It kind of proves the point.

LOL, you can rest assured, there are no such worries.

Well you should be. Every time it happens the economy spikes up and people get happy. The democrats hate happy people and that's why they need to keep them miserable. If these tax laws get passed you're fucked for the next decade.

Amazing to witness such compartmentalization.

Were you in a coma for 15 years? There was Bush...big tax-cuts that were supposedly self-financing and supposedly would make for booming economy...no? Nothing? A total blackout?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A rising tide does not lift all boats! That is a ray Goon fallacy like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It doesn't? As a professional sailor for many years, i can assure you that you are full of shit!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A rising tide does not lift all boats! That is a ray Goon fallacy like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It doesn't raise boats that have holes in the bottom. Otherwise it's true.

Also overladen vessels sink in rising tides. In short the analogy is false.

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?

As the tides rises, all boats rise. There is no other option.

To suggest otherwise indicates either lunacy or willful ignorance.

 

[AntonToo]

A rising tide does not lift all boats! That is a ray Goon fallacy like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It doesn't raise boats that have holes in the bottom. Otherwise it's true.

Also overladen vessels sink in rising tides. In short the analogy is false.

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?

As the tides rises, all boats rise. There is no other option.

To suggest otherwise indicates either lunacy or willful ignorance.

Is this seriously a real conversation?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Obie already explained it. Basically it's doesn't matter if raising taxes actually helps the economy it's about being fair.

and having to watch bob beeckel and jaun {on tthe Five} all those years trying to make it sound as if Obama was doing a great job with the economy in comparison to Bush?

Here's what really worries the left. If Trump can duplicate Reagan's economy with the same tactics they are fucked. They can't have that happen twice. It kind of proves the point.

LOL, you can rest assured, there are no such worries.

Well you should be. Every time it happens the economy spikes up and people get happy. The democrats hate happy people and that's why they need to keep them miserable. If these tax laws get passed you're fucked for the next decade.

Amazing to witness such compartmentalization.

Were you in a coma for 15 years? There was Bush...big tax-cuts that were supposedly self-financing and supposedly would make for booming economy...no? Nothing? A total blackout?

I remember the government, all democrats making banking rules you had to give loans to minorities whether they were qualified or not. And I remember the loosest loan qualifications I have ever seen due to those rules the democrats made. That had nothing to do with taxes. It had everything to do with the government forcing those loans. Did you ever wonder why the banks got bailout money instead of prosecuted? It's because if it ever went to court the government would end up being the criminal.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

A rising tide does not lift all boats! That is a ray Goon fallacy like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It doesn't raise boats that have holes in the bottom. Otherwise it's true.

Also overladen vessels sink in rising tides. In short the analogy is false.

Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?

As the tides rises, all boats rise. There is no other option.

To suggest otherwise indicates either lunacy or willful ignorance.

Is this seriously a real conversation?

Not since you joined it.

 

[bripat9643]

What they don't buy cars and Snickers bars?

How often do you see a billionaire shopping around for a new Ford truck?

They buy Lamboghinis and Rolls Royces, dumbass. What they don't spend on themselves they invest in their businesses, thereby providing you with a job.

....those are foreign cars and investments in business and providing jobs is called EXPENSES and therefore are not profits to be taxed.

Investment in business creates jobs, dumbass. Finding something to tax is all you can think about.

Rich also SAVE disproportionate % of their income and EXPORT more of it outside the country. This is ESPECIALLY true in times uncertain.

So middle class Americans don't buy foreign cars or foreign made goods? They probably buy a lot more than the rich since most of them shop at Walmart.

Bottom line: you're an idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

By now we have seen our favorite cable news hosts going at it with far left loonies over what will likely happen when we drop rates for the average American and business owners. The rats keep insisting that we will add to the debt/deficit, really? now they care about this?
The host will always bring up what happened when we did this under Reagan. Then they freeze up/brain fart moment. What about the Bush Years? Damn, the economy was kicking ass! many employers were begging for help!,,,Then Obama took over and look at what the Dems did to us in 2009.,,then followed by 8 years of 0.0 Growth!,,,and now they have the nerve to tell us that lowering taxes will make things worse?

Because some people actually care about their children and grandchildren, and fear the debt will grow so large that it will destroy the lives of their descendants, and possibly the country itself.

It's not the Demorats. They just got done proving that in spades.

 

[John Shaw]

By now we have seen our favorite cable news hosts going at it with far left loonies over what will likely happen when we drop rates for the average American and business owners. The rats keep insisting that we will add to the debt/deficit, really? now they care about this?
The host will always bring up what happened when we did this under Reagan. Then they freeze up/brain fart moment. What about the Bush Years? Damn, the economy was kicking ass! many employers were begging for help!,,,Then Obama took over and look at what the Dems did to us in 2009.,,then followed by 8 years of 0.0 Growth!,,,and now they have the nerve to tell us that lowering taxes will make things worse?

Because some people actually care about their children and grandchildren, and fear the debt will grow so large that it will destroy the lives of their descendants, and possibly the country itself.

It's not the Demorats. They just got done proving that in spades.

No. No one really gives a shit. The boomers know they'll be gone by the time shit really hits the fan anyway, leaving their kids holding the bag. Easily the most greedy and heartless generation in American history.

 

[bripat9643]

Obie already explained it. Basically it's doesn't matter if raising taxes actually helps the economy it's about being fair.

and having to watch bob beeckel and jaun {on tthe Five} all those years trying to make it sound as if Obama was doing a great job with the economy in comparison to Bush?

Here's what really worries the left. If Trump can duplicate Reagan's economy with the same tactics they are fucked. They can't have that happen twice. It kind of proves the point.

LOL, you can rest assured, there are no such worries.

Well you should be. Every time it happens the economy spikes up and people get happy. The democrats hate happy people and that's why they need to keep them miserable. If these tax laws get passed you're fucked for the next decade.

Amazing to witness such compartmentalization.

Were you in a coma for 15 years? There was Bush...big tax-cuts that were supposedly self-financing and supposedly would make for booming economy...no? Nothing? A total blackout?

You just committed post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What they don't buy cars and Snickers bars?

How often do you see a billionaire shopping around for a new Ford truck?

They buy Lamboghinis and Rolls Royces, dumbass. What they don't spend on themselves they invest in their businesses, thereby providing you with a job.

....those are foreign cars and investments in business and providing jobs is called EXPENSES and therefore are not profits to be taxed.

Rich also SAVE disproportionate % of their income and EXPORT more of it outside the country. This is ESPECIALLY true in times uncertain.

Rich also SAVE disproportionate % of their income


You are using this as a retort?, so what you are saying is our liberal indoctrination education system sucks..

 

[my2¢]

Reagan's tax cuts took place after a decade of inflation and at a time before tax rates were adjusted for inflation. As a result of inflation the government's cut of the American worker's average wage grew by 6% during that time. The Reagan tax cuts brought the tax rates back to pre-inflation levels. The increased deficit was caused by growing government spending, in particular for the cost to rebuild the military which suffered from being neglected in the post-Vietnam era.

As for the GW Bush and proposed Trump tax cuts, somebody else can explain the rhyme and reason. We still have a problem with that spending part.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

when banks loan money, arent they also loaning out depositers money? and in 2004/05/06,,,the rats didnt care if the bank put our savings at risk? they made banks loan out as much as possible to the extent where banks were running out of money!....but Democrats didnt care,,,so long at they got rich off of it as the middle class went broke.

 

[JoeB131]

its as if the left forgot what happened in 2004/05/06.....and then Pelosi and Reid took over and crashed the economy

we didn't forget. It's just that the tax cuts had nothing to do with that economic growth.

What fueled that growth was doubling defense spending for the War on An Emotional State, and an artificial increase due to the housing boom. Neither one of those were caused by Bush's Tax Breaks for the Rich.

As for Pelosi and Reid crashing the economy, what law, specifically, did they pass that did that?

Seriously, this is the kind of retard you get from too much Hate Radio.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Because it will add $10 trillion to our debt without adding anything of value to the economy

If you borrow $10 trillion to build roads and bridges, you end up with $10 trillion worth of roads and bridges
If you give $10 trillion to the wealthy, they just keep it

Every citizen in America is taxed an average of at least 75 cents per every gallon of fuel they buy, some more, some a bit less. Regardless, that=plenty of money for roads and bridges. The government makes more off of fuel than the fuel companies.

There should not be a pothole or failing bridge anywhere!

 

[Cellblock2429]

What they don't buy cars and Snickers bars?

How often do you see a billionaire shopping around for a new Ford truck?

Conservatives talk about tax-cuts today with exactly same naive reverence as they did in 2000.

It is as if 15 years of tax cuts, shity-to-anemic economy and rivers of red ink as far as the eye can see didn't happen.

Nope, never was, we need tax cuts pronto!

By now we have seen our favorite cable news hosts going at it with far left loonies over what will likely happen when we drop rates for the average American and business owners. The rats keep insisting that we will add to the debt/deficit, really? now they care about this?
The host will always bring up what happened when we did this under Reagan. Then they freeze up/brain fart moment. What about the Bush Years? Damn, the economy was kicking ass! many employers were begging for help!,,,Then Obama took over and look at what the Dems did to us in 2009.,,then followed by 8 years of 0.0 Growth!,,,and now they have the nerve to tell us that lowering taxes will make things worse?

/—-/ Why wont Dems pay their fair share? A Dem Party leader busted for not paying $1.4 million in taxes.

 

[Cellblock2429]

A rising tide does not lift all boats! That is a ray Goon fallacy like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

/—-/ Actually it was Dem icon JFK who said that when he proposed tax cuts.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Because it will add $10 trillion to our debt without adding anything of value to the economy

If you borrow $10 trillion to build roads and bridges, you end up with $10 trillion worth of roads and bridges
If you give $10 trillion to the wealthy, they just keep it

Every citizen in America is taxed an average of at least 75 cents per every gallon of fuel they buy, some more, some a bit less. Regardless, that=plenty of money for roads and bridges. The government makes more off of fuel than the fuel companies.

There should not be a pothole or failing bridge anywhere!

and to think of how many jobs u could of created with just one trillion?,,,what is it? about 40 Million?,,,,,and how many Trillions did the dems piss off during the Obama years?? while 90 Million people werent working?

 

[gtopa1]

Reagan's tax cuts took place after a decade of inflation and at a time before tax rates were adjusted for inflation. As a result of inflation the government's cut of the American worker's average wage grew by 6% during that time. The Reagan tax cuts brought the tax rates back to pre-inflation levels. The increased deficit was caused by growing government spending, in particular for the cost to rebuild the military which suffered from being neglected in the post-Vietnam era.

As for the GW Bush and proposed Trump tax cuts, somebody else can explain the rhyme and reason. We still have a problem with that spending part.

I have NO PROBLEM with the Tax Cuts; my beef is with spending. It's gotta come down...big time!!

Greg

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ Actually it was Dem icon JFK who said that when he proposed tax cuts.

Except JFK's tax rates still left the top marginal rate at 70% for the ultra-rich.

I have NO PROBLEM with the Tax Cuts; my beef is with spending. It's gotta come down...big time!!

Awesome. Let me know what you want to cut, and put some numbers next to it.

Because here's the thing. Once you exempt defense, social security and Medicare, all things that the politicians just won't cut under any circumstances, there really isn't all that much more to cut.

If you take out things that are mandatory spending, including SS, Medicare, Military and Interest on the Debt you are talking about 83% of the budget.

Most of the rest are things that would be difficult to touch, such as Veteran's spending (4%). Yeah, try cutting that after the whole VA Scandal.