daws101
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Concealed Carry’s Body CountI forgot I was talking to children.You asked for examples of ccw taking each other out.That's not what we were discussing, genius. We were talking about ccw holders shooting each other by accident. It's like talking to five year olds.2 Concealed Carry Holders Kill Each Other In Road Rage IncidentI don't know of anyone that fantasizes about this shit except gun grabber leftists. Where are YOUR examples of ccw holders taking each other out?That kind of wishful thinking is why the good guy with gun fantasy is so dangerous.
It's a simple equation more guns=more bullets = more deaths.
The only workable solutions involve more security measures and more trained guards
In public places.
You stupid assholes demand proof to fictitious ill defined scenarios and pull whatever you want out of your rears for evidence.
And I gave you one.
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EDITORIAL
Concealed Carry’s Body Count
A woman in North Dakota holds her pistol.
JIM WILSON / THE NEW YORK TIMES
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
FEBRUARY 11, 2015
In America’s endless debate about gun rights versus public safety, there should be no disputing the hard facts in a new reporton gunshot fatalities showing that at least 722 nonself-defense deaths since 2007 were attributable to individuals with legal permits to carry concealed weapons. Concealed carry by citizens has been a soaring phenomenon as states liberalize laws in the name of lowering crime that allow more permits and easier gun access in public places, even schools, churches and restaurants.
There is no central tally of the effects, with states often barring release of concealed-carry data and Congress hewing to the gun lobby’s opposition to research on guns’ effects on public health. But a methodical gleaning of eight years of news accounts by the Violence Policy Center, a gun safety group, found that in research involving 722 deaths in 544 concealed-carry shootings in 36 states and the District of Columbia, only 16 cases were eventually ruled lawful self-defense — even though this has been a major gun rights selling point for the new laws.
More gravely, the study found that the fatalities included 17 law enforcement officers shot by people with legal permits along with 705 slain civilians. There were 28 mass shootings (involving three or more victims) in which 136 people were killed — even though concealed carry has also been sold as a defense against massacres like the one in Newtown, Conn.
In studying the 544 shootings, the center found 177 cases where people with gun licenses were ultimately convicted of crimes, including homicides, and 218 cases where the permit holder used the gun to commit suicide. There were 44 total lives taken by licensed individuals who first murdered others, then committed suicide