Who's more likely to be in heaven, Hitler or Gandhi?

[Tank]

Both thought blacks to be inferior

 

[Avatar4321]

Both thought blacks to be inferior

You don't know much about Gandhi do you?

 

[SW2SILVER]

Presumes that christianity is the only true religion. "True religion": there's an contradiction in terms.

 

[Tank]

You don't know much about Gandhi do you?

Mostly his views on race.

 

[Avatar4321]

Presumes that christianity is the only true religion. "True religion": there's an contradiction in terms.

either one religion is true or none of them are. They cant all be.

 

[McPuff]

How can Christians believe that a truly heinous and truly evil person can get into heaven if he truly repents in the last 5 minutes of his life over a truly good person who has lived a good and just life? Particularly if that person has never heard of Jesus to begin with?

Would you consider yourself a good person?

 

[xotoxi]

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

Hitler killed the Lord's Chosen Peoples.

Therefore, he is out.

 

[elvis]

Is é Dia amháin a thabharfaidh breithiúnas orm. (Only God Shall Judge Me). It's not for us to decide. They're dead, let God sort them out.

doesn't suicide disqualify someone, though?

 

[elvis]

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

Hitler killed the Lord's Chosen Peoples.

Therefore, he is out.

gypsies?

 

[xotoxi]

Is é Dia amháin a thabharfaidh breithiúnas orm. (Only God Shall Judge Me). It's not for us to decide. They're dead, let God sort them out.

doesn't suicide disqualify someone, though?

Not suicide due to war.

 

[Sallow]

Here's the kicker.

Both are responsible for the deaths of millions. AND..for the causes of Nationalism and Religion.

Gandhi isn't responsible for the deaths of anyone, let alone millions. If you are going to make a ridiculous accusation you could have the decency of attempting to back yourself up.

Sure he is..

Partition Of IndiaMain article: Partition of India
An estimated 3.5 million[6][7][8][9][10] Hindus and Sikhs living in West Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Baluchistan, East Bengal and Sind migrated to India in fear of domination and suppression in Muslim Pakistan. Communal violence killed an estimated one million Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, and gravely destabilized both Dominions along their Punjab and Bengal boundaries, and the cities of Calcutta, Delhi and Lahore. The violence was stopped by early September owing to the cooperative efforts of both Indian and Pakistani leaders, and especially due the efforts of Mohandas Gandhi, the leader of the Indian freedom struggle, who undertook a fast-unto-death in Calcutta and later in Delhi to calm people and emphasize peace despite the threat to his life. Both Governments constructed large relief camps for incoming and leaving refugees, and the Indian Army was mobilized to provide humanitarian assistance on a massive scale. The assassination of Mahatma Gandhi on 30 January 1948 was carried out by Nathuram Vinayak Godse, who was affiliated with the Hindu nationalist movement, which held him responsible for partition and charged that Gandhi was appeasing Muslims. More than one million people flooded the streets of Delhi to follow the procession to cremation grounds and pay their last respects.

History of the Republic of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It always boggles the mind how ignorant of history..real history..most people are..

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The only thing going through Hitler's mind before he died was a bullet.

But don't you think it's more likely he said a prayer asking for forgiveness before he pulled the trigger than it is that Gandhi prayed to Jesus?

Suicide is a MORTAL Sin, you can't ask forgiveness after you do it.

 

[Christopher]

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

Hitler can try all he wants to accept Jesus, however, his actions in life shows he rejected Christ's teachings. That is what Christ will judge us on, is on our actions and what is in our heart.

From Matthew 15:8

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Also Matthew 7:21

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Which person do you think lived a life more in line with Christ's teachings, whether intentionally following Christ or not?

 

[GHook93]

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

Here's the kicker.

Both are responsible for the deaths of millions. AND..for the causes of Nationalism and Religion.

Are you honestly trying to say that Gandhi was anything but a great person. He was wrong on many things and his pacifist style would not work in all uprisings, but he was nothing less than a great man and should be praised for it!

 

[GHook93]

Hitler was born a Christian, but became an atheist. He was disgusted with the Christian religion, but he placated Christians to get support in his campaign for domination. He rarely spoke of the bible or praised the lord and your lying about the bible lines on their belts.

In case you didn't know, thw swatika was a HINDUS symbol!

Hitler didn't live like a Christian, practice the religion and was an atheist. The left always tries to say he was a Christian and right-winger. When in fact he was a socialist left-wing atheist dictator. Dictators don't have to be right wing (that is another leftist lie) see Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and Chavez!

If there is a heaven and hell: Hitler is in Hell and Gandhi is heaven, case closed!

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

 

[Christopher]

Here's the kicker.

Both are responsible for the deaths of millions. AND..for the causes of Nationalism and Religion.

Gandhi isn't responsible for the deaths of anyone, let alone millions. If you are going to make a ridiculous accusation you could have the decency of attempting to back yourself up.

Sure he is..

Partition Of IndiaMain article: Partition of India
An estimated 3.5 million[6][7][8][9][10] Hindus and Sikhs living in West Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Baluchistan, East Bengal and Sind migrated to India in fear of domination and suppression in Muslim Pakistan. Communal violence killed an estimated one million Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, and gravely destabilized both Dominions along their Punjab and Bengal boundaries, and the cities of Calcutta, Delhi and Lahore. The violence was stopped by early September owing to the cooperative efforts of both Indian and Pakistani leaders, and especially due the efforts of Mohandas Gandhi, the leader of the Indian freedom struggle, who undertook a fast-unto-death in Calcutta and later in Delhi to calm people and emphasize peace despite the threat to his life. Both Governments constructed large relief camps for incoming and leaving refugees, and the Indian Army was mobilized to provide humanitarian assistance on a massive scale. The assassination of Mahatma Gandhi on 30 January 1948 was carried out by Nathuram Vinayak Godse, who was affiliated with the Hindu nationalist movement, which held him responsible for partition and charged that Gandhi was appeasing Muslims. More than one million people flooded the streets of Delhi to follow the procession to cremation grounds and pay their last respects.

History of the Republic of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It always boggles the mind how ignorant of history..real history..most people are..

Please enlighten us on how Ghandi was responsible for the deaths from the communal violence. Your quote says he was a key element in pacifying the violence. You believe the Hindu nationalists, who held him responsible for partition? Please explain.

 

[Tank]

 

[Sallow]

Gandhi isn't responsible for the deaths of anyone, let alone millions. If you are going to make a ridiculous accusation you could have the decency of attempting to back yourself up.

Sure he is..

Partition Of IndiaMain article: Partition of India
An estimated 3.5 million[6][7][8][9][10] Hindus and Sikhs living in West Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Baluchistan, East Bengal and Sind migrated to India in fear of domination and suppression in Muslim Pakistan. Communal violence killed an estimated one million Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, and gravely destabilized both Dominions along their Punjab and Bengal boundaries, and the cities of Calcutta, Delhi and Lahore. The violence was stopped by early September owing to the cooperative efforts of both Indian and Pakistani leaders, and especially due the efforts of Mohandas Gandhi, the leader of the Indian freedom struggle, who undertook a fast-unto-death in Calcutta and later in Delhi to calm people and emphasize peace despite the threat to his life. Both Governments constructed large relief camps for incoming and leaving refugees, and the Indian Army was mobilized to provide humanitarian assistance on a massive scale. The assassination of Mahatma Gandhi on 30 January 1948 was carried out by Nathuram Vinayak Godse, who was affiliated with the Hindu nationalist movement, which held him responsible for partition and charged that Gandhi was appeasing Muslims. More than one million people flooded the streets of Delhi to follow the procession to cremation grounds and pay their last respects.

History of the Republic of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It always boggles the mind how ignorant of history..real history..most people are..

Please enlighten us on how Ghandi was responsible for the deaths from the communal violence. Your quote says he was a key element in pacifying the violence. You believe the Hindu nationalists, who held him responsible for partition? Please explain.

Passive or not..he pushed for independence. When India got their independence the aftermath wasn't pretty. There was a great deal of violence and Muslims were forced from their homes into Pakistan.

An "un-intended consequence" was that millions died.

 

[Sallow]

Hitler was born a christian, used the lord in his speeches, Nazi uniforms often adorned lines from the Bible on their belts.

Gandhi was born a Hindu and remained one throughout the duration of his life.

It seems to me Hitler would be a lot more likely to accept Jesus Christ as his savior and ask God for forgiveness at the end of his life than Gandhi would have been as a Hindu who really never had any even minor involvement in christianity.

What say you?

Here's the kicker.

Both are responsible for the deaths of millions. AND..for the causes of Nationalism and Religion.

Are you honestly trying to say that Gandhi was anything but a great person.

Nope.

He was wrong on many things and his pacifist style would not work in all uprisings, but he was nothing less than a great man and should be praised for it!

One of the great ironies is that many people died despite his pacifist movement. And one of the great hypocrisies are that many are willing to map deaths, indirect or not, to people they consider villians, yet, forget them when there are people they consider heroes.

I personally think what Ghandi did was heroic. But not without consequence.

 

[Christopher]

Sure he is..



It always boggles the mind how ignorant of history..real history..most people are..

Please enlighten us on how Ghandi was responsible for the deaths from the communal violence. Your quote says he was a key element in pacifying the violence. You believe the Hindu nationalists, who held him responsible for partition? Please explain.

Passive or not..he pushed for independence. When India got their independence the aftermath wasn't pretty. There was a great deal of violence and Muslims were forced from their homes into Pakistan.

An "un-intended consequence" was that millions died.

There was already substantial violence in India.

Do you honestly place blame for millions who died on Ghandi, instead of the people who actually committed the violence?