Who cost Hillary the election???

[Avatar4321]

Hillary did

 

[Silhouette]

Clinton was a nightmare. An entitled cheater that threw Sanders under the bus.

And the down-ticket dems that the Rust Belt etc. dems also rejected? Personality or platform issue there?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Hilary....she lost the election even with the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the White house spying on Trump for her....and even with putin giving her 145 million dollars through her money laundering charity.......

She couldn't steal the election, making her the biggest loser democrat since al gore failed to steal the election against Bush....

NO, she won the election by 3 million votes... and I wish the FBI had told us what they knew about Trump's collusion with Russia... but they figured he was going to lose so they didn't need to bring it up.

Now everyone knows that Trump is owned by Putin, it's just our system can't fix the problem without everyone losing face.

NO, she won the election by 3 million votes


Well that's a relief , thank God Hillary is president.


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[oreo]

We're coming up on 2 years after the Presidential election, and the Democrats/Liberals are still crying over Hillary's epic loss. Hillary herself has blamed everyone & everything, except herself which is quite self defeating. Too bad she didn't have the fortitude to just stand up & admit her own responsibility. But I'm not interested in that.

What I want to know is just who did cost her the election & how??? Nevermind the current or ongoing narrative of Mueller's investigation. Who do YOU think is responsible & why or how???

If you are or were a Hillary supporter...…..were you or anyone you know influenced in any way to either vote against her? Or not vote at all???(which is a vote for someone, in and of itself mind you)

Everyone knows that the goal posts were moved on Hiillary Clinton's side of the field.

Starting with FBI director James Comey who broke long standing DOJ protocol on 3 different occasions.1. Using an alterted Russian document to skirt around the DOJ to 2. Giving a daming speech about her in front of congress that then lead to the legal arm chair quarterbacks on FOX NEWS. 3. To releasing information withiin 60 days of an election Comey did (after being warned not to by the DOJ) within 11 days of an election, and 7 days later after millions of people voted believing that charges were imminent against Hillary Clinton, Comey gave birth to his nothing burger.
'None of it makes much sense': Experts are baffled by Comey's use of a fake Russian document to skirt the DOJ
Eric Holder and 100 other former Justice officials sign letter blasting Comey's 'breach of protocol'
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9IlI7HVBbsDoAVCtXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1532005819/RO=10/RU=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-officials-warned-fbi-that-comeys-decision-to-update-congress-was-not-consistent-with-department-policy/2016/10/29/cb179254-9de7-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html/RK=2/RS=25fmcRDWHRXoOkeLxEQu4z.joCg-
Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy

Now in Comey's book--A higher loyaly he does make a kind of apology to Hillary Clinton.

And of course Trump fired Comey using the excuse of what Comey did to Hillary Clinton--

A must watch video.


Then of course you have Vladimir Putin's interference which James Clapper said changed the course of the election and is the reason that Trump won. I will redirect you to another thread on this board for explanation.

Go to this link then scroll down to post # 360
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

It's really astounding after this interference that she still beat Trump by 3 million popular votes, while Trump won the election on an accumulated vote total of a mere 73K votes coming out of 3 blue rust belt states. The reason for this lopsided win, is because Putin was targeting white conservative voters in swing states with very specific advertisements designed especially for them based on the geographic section of where they lived, while also enraging Sanders supporters against Hillary Clinton as explained in the above link.

It was actually brilliant in the manner he did it.

It appears that Russians know more about the demographics of American politics than most Americans do. And of course, all of this makes Trump the most illegitmate President to ever be sworn into the Oval office. The only thing Hillary Clinton is guilty of is underestimating the astounding ignorance in this country.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Most of those who have responded only answered who they thought cost Hillary the election, but only a few answered the other questions in the OP that addressed their vote being changed or influenced & if it did......who or what was the changing factor.

Anyone willing to chime in on those points???

 

[baileyn45]

We're coming up on 2 years after the Presidential election, and the Democrats/Liberals are still crying over Hillary's epic loss. Hillary herself has blamed everyone & everything, except herself which is quite self defeating. Too bad she didn't have the fortitude to just stand up & admit her own responsibility. But I'm not interested in that.

What I want to know is just who did cost her the election & how??? Nevermind the current or ongoing narrative of Mueller's investigation. Who do YOU think is responsible & why or how???

If you are or were a Hillary supporter...…..were you or anyone you know influenced in any way to either vote against her? Or not vote at all???(which is a vote for someone, in and of itself mind you)

Everyone knows that the goal posts were moved on Hiillary Clinton's side of the field.

Starting with FBI director James Comey who broke long standing DOJ protocol on 3 different occasions.1. Using an alterted Russian document to skirt around the DOJ to 2. Giving a daming speech about her in front of congress that then lead to the legal arm chair quarterbacks on FOX NEWS. 3. To releasing information withiin 60 days of an election Comey did (after being warned not to by the DOJ) within 11 days of an election, and 7 days later after millions of people voted believing that charges were imminent against Hillary Clinton, Comey gave birth to his nothing burger.
'None of it makes much sense': Experts are baffled by Comey's use of a fake Russian document to skirt the DOJ
Eric Holder and 100 other former Justice officials sign letter blasting Comey's 'breach of protocol'
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9IlI7HVBbsDoAVCtXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1532005819/RO=10/RU=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-officials-warned-fbi-that-comeys-decision-to-update-congress-was-not-consistent-with-department-policy/2016/10/29/cb179254-9de7-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html/RK=2/RS=25fmcRDWHRXoOkeLxEQu4z.joCg-
Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy

Now in Comey's book--A higher loyaly he does make a kind of apology to Hillary Clinton.

And of course Trump fired Comey using the excuse of what Comey did to Hillary Clinton--

A must watch video.


Then of course you have Vladimir Putin's interference which James Clapper said changed the course of the election and is the reason that Trump won. I will redirect you to another thread on this board for explanation.

Go to this link then scroll down to post # 360
Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

It's really astounding after this interference that she still beat Trump by 3 million popular votes, while Trump won the election on an accumulated vote total of a mere 73K votes coming out of 3 blue rust belt states. The reason for this lopsided win, is because Putin was targeting white conservative voters in swing states with very specific advertisements designed especially for them based on the geographic section of where they lived, while also enraging Sanders supporters against Hillary Clinton as explained in the above link.

It was actually brilliant in the manner he did it.

It appears that Russians know more about the demographics of American politics than most Americans do. And of course, all of this makes Trump the most illegitmate President to ever be sworn into the Oval office. The only thing Hillary Clinton is guilty of is underestimating the astounding ignorance in this country.

Trump is president because he ran against the sleaziest piece of human filth that has ever graced the American political landscape, period. I don't like the man, but at least he's not Hillary.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Most of those who have responded only answered who they thought cost Hillary the election, but only a few answered the other questions in the OP that addressed their vote being changed or influenced & if it did......who or what was the changing factor.

Anyone willing to chime in on those points???

But I'm afraid the answer is still the same, the only one who changed any votes was the psycho princess herself. I imagine a lot of Bernie supporters voted for the very stable orange genius in revenge and even more didn't even bother to show up for the selections...

 

[Silhouette]

I wonder if the vindictive Bernie dems also defected down-ticket because they were mad at Hillary? Or were those defections more from the middle dems, on platform rejection? Maybe those voters then rejected "whoever" the dem upticket figurehead was for the same reasons?

 

[Silhouette]

Anyone? The down- ticket defection with dems is a corallary conversation to the OP. No?

For purposes of understanding why, the down-ticket rejection is a much more important topic.

 

[longknife]

We're coming up on 2 years after the Presidential election, and the Democrats/Liberals are still crying over Hillary's epic loss. Hillary herself has blamed everyone & everything, except herself which is quite self defeating. Too bad she didn't have the fortitude to just stand up & admit her own responsibility. But I'm not interested in that.

What I want to know is just who did cost her the election & how??? Nevermind the current or ongoing narrative of Mueller's investigation. Who do YOU think is responsible & why or how???

If you are or were a Hillary supporter...…..were you or anyone you know influenced in any way to either vote against her? Or not vote at all???(which is a vote for someone, in and of itself mind you)

She cost herself her own election. Nobody else.

 

[JoeB131]

So many middle dems defected to red up & down that the only logical conclusion is that it was a platform issue. Not one of personality. Obergefell's tyranny was still quite fresh on the minds of all and then...

Um, no, they really didn't. The Dems made gains in the House and Senate.

More to the point, besides Hillary getting 3 million more votes than the Fuhrer, is that Trump didn't get more votes than Romney did.

Final point- Trump didn't push homophobia. It wasn't part of his platform like Romney or McCain.

 

[JWBooth]

People who voted for Trump didn't want a President, they felt screwed over by the establishment for decades and they just wanted to burn it all down.

Trump is a Molotov cocktail thrown at D.C.

This is the only valid assessment you’ve posted to date.

 

[rightwinger]

Are you ok with having a president with low morals ?

It's not like you have any choice, the last pretzeldent with some morals was JFK I think... and look what happened to him..

Jimmy Carter
Look what happened to him

 

[Silhouette]

So many middle dems defected to red up & down that the only logical conclusion is that it was a platform issue. Not one of personality. Obergefell's tyranny was still quite fresh on the minds of all and then...

Um, no, they really didn't. The Dems made gains in the House and Senate.

Not like they wanted to...not by a long shot. Read vv
And The Reasons for 2016 Dem DOWN-TICKET Failures?........

 

[JoeB131]

Not like they wanted to...not by a long shot. Read vv

Guy, you can't use one thread of your homophobic rants to justify this homophobic rants...

You've LOST on this issue. Sorry, man, hate to break it to you, but you really have. Republicans aren't even talking about this anymore.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Jimmy Carter
Look what happened to him

Jimmy only became moral after he left the oval office

He's the one who started sponsoring the Taliban to aid them in their heroic, pro democracy fight against the evil commies (edged on by the deep state of course)

 

[Skylar]

Not like they wanted to...not by a long shot. Read vv

Guy, you can't use one thread of your homophobic rants to justify this homophobic rants...

You've LOST on this issue. Sorry, man, hate to break it to you, but you really have. Republicans aren't even talking about this anymore.

Sil is a gal. Her homophobic rants and singular obsession with this topic started after her dad died. It was never clear why that death sparked her obsession.

 

[Skylar]

So many middle dems defected to red up & down that the only logical conclusion is that it was a platform issue. Not one of personality. Obergefell's tyranny was still quite fresh on the minds of all and then...

Um, no, they really didn't. The Dems made gains in the House and Senate.

More to the point, besides Hillary getting 3 million more votes than the Fuhrer, is that Trump didn't get more votes than Romney did.

Final point- Trump didn't push homophobia. It wasn't part of his platform like Romney or McCain.

Trivial detail. Hardly worth mentioning.

 

[JoeB131]

Sil is a gal. Her homophobic rants and singular obsession with this topic started after her dad died. It was never clear why that death sparked her obsession.

I think he's a dude. In another post, he bragged about how he beat up a gay dude who put the moves on him.

 

[Doc1]

Sil is a gal. Her homophobic rants and singular obsession with this topic started after her dad died. It was never clear why that death sparked her obsession.

I think he's a dude. In another post, he bragged about how he beat up a gay dude who put the moves on him.

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