Who Celebrates Bastille Day?

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    When a new member complained that some thought he was a liberal, one of our members proudly proclaimed: “Welcome from a real liberal.”

    The beauty of USMB is how proudly most of the folks here speak right up for their beliefs!

    1. So, kudos to our liberals friends, and have a wonderful July 14th, Bastille Day, the day that memorializes the French Revolution, and, since liberals/ progressives are heir to the French Revolution, have a great celebration!

    2. Yes, just as an argument can be made that classical liberals, or what would be called conservatives today, are heir to the American Revolution, liberals can trace their provenance to Rousseau, and St. Just!

    3. For Rousseau, the “Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen” proclaimed that the ‘general will’ of the people had to be correct, because it was the ‘general will,” the true interest of what everyone wants whether they realize it or not, and he ‘determined’ the ‘general will,’ so, anyone who deviated from same deserved no rights!

    a. Although he had written a ‘constitution,’ it became malleable for Robespierre: “How did Robespierre actually interpret these principles? He said: “[W]e must exterminate all our enemies with the law in our hands”; “the Declaration of Rights offers no safeguard to conspirators”; “the suspicions of enlightened patriotism might offer a better guide than formal rules of evidence.” http://www.nationalaffairs.com/docl...hvsthefrenchenlightmentgertrudehimmelfarb.pdf,

    Notice the echo in the actions of the early Progressives who suggested that the US Constitution may be shed, ‘like a garment.’ Their views surpassed those of the Founders. http://www.nationalaffairs.com/docl...hvsthefrenchenlightmentgertrudehimmelfarb.pdf

    Could there be a better description of the collectivist totalitarian statist?

    4. Of course, a minor difference that the astute might notice is that America’s documents did win freedom and individual rights, and France’s Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen led to bestial savagery, followed by Napoleon’s dictatorship, followed by another monarchy, and finally something resembling an actual republic some 80 years later.

    5. And just one more difference between the two revolution, mirroring the difference between liberals and conservatives? With the Jacobins in control, the “de-Christianization” campaign kicked into high gear. Inspired by Rousseau’s idea of the 'religion civile', the revolution sought to completely destroy Christianity and replace it with a religion of the state. To honor “reason” and fulfill the promise of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen that “no one may be questioned about his opinions, including his religious views,” Catholic priests were forced to stand before the revolutionary clubs and take oaths to France’s new humanocentric religion, the Cult of Reason (which is French for ‘People for the American Way’).Revolutionaries smashed church art and statues.

    a. The reason our revolution was so different from the violent, homicidal chaos of the French version was the dominant American culture was Anglo-Saxon and Christian. “52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” David Limbaugh Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundementalist hate group.”
    (From Coulter’s best seller, “Demonic .”)

    So, to those of the Liberal persuasion, party like it’s 1789!

    …But remember, the party will be over in November, 2012.
     
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    Does anyone take PC seriously? This calls for a new corollary to Godwin's Law!!! :cool:
     
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    I bathe with castile on Bastille.
     
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    Thanks for the excuse ! Party time, manana !!!
     
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    Allons enfants de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive!

    Congrats, France. (A bit early) Some excellent philosophical minds and thankfully the English colonists were wise enough to read the works they published before either revolution. The French would have been well-advised to consider those works, too. However, they seemed to be more driven toward mob rule.

    Domage.




    But, I have to say that guillotine is beyond harsh. Just creepy, really.
     
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    Guillotine? The pike!

    Three days after the completion of The Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen, the mob stormed the Bastille, and marched around with the head of the prison’s commander, Marquis de Launay, on a pike. Shortly, the greatest nation in continental Europe became a human abattoir.

    France’s revolution-by-mob has become an inspiration to be imitated in Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, Venezuela, in short, for Lefties everywhere.
     
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    How did France turn out in the next two hundred years? The US had to save their quiche eating asses twice in the 20th century. Half the country wanted to be Nazis during WW2. Now they riot in the streets for three months paid (by the taxpayers) vacation every year.
     
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    I'm sure Conservatives would put Obama's head on a pike - or at least deport him to Saudi Arabia - if they could.
     
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    Does it get the grape-stains off the bottom of your feet?

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    You should do a commercial....
     
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    Totally false in both essence and in implication.

    Neither do the conservative that I'm aware of even speak like that.

    Only liberals have, for example, assassinated any of our Presidents, of any political figures.

    It is the Left that is responsible for violence, and the French Revolution is a prime example.
     
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