Who are the Israelis?

[AzogtheDefiler]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are misusing this term "Colonial:" See • Posting #3176 • Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border.

Israeli settlers are cannon fodder for Israel's settler colonial project.

(COMMENT)

The tactical danger to Israeli Sovereign Territory is not any less dangerous than the tactical danger to Israeli activities in Area "C" threats.

To my knowledge, Israel, as a nation, and the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) do not consider people and personnel as an expendable supply or combat consumable (cannon fodder). The use of people and personnel in the role of an expendable is well below the threshold of their value and potential. It is not a concept in the vocabulary of an ethical nation or operational military decision process. While the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) may use their own people to in the role of shields, hostages and concealment devices, it is NOT the policy of Israel to exploit “the civilian population and individual citizens." It is the purpose of the IDF, and the associated police, security services, and emergency responders that civilian population and individual citizens enjoy the general protection against the dangers arising from both allied and hostile military operations.

Further, it is NOT the policy of the State of Israel to utilize the presence of any civilian population in a role to prevent or delay any legitimate military target, from an attack from the opposing force. It is also not a policy or a tactical practice of the IDF to intentionally position any civilian population for the sole purpose of staging a media event or purposely set the conditions such that civilian casualties would be incurred.

While the HoAP has demonstrated over and over again the callous indifference for the life of its civilian population and acted in direct and intentional violation of Customary and International Humanitarian Law, the Israelis do not condone or encourage such actions.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel could stop the rockets out of Gaza today if it wanted. But it doesn't.

Why would Israel negotiate with terrorists?

Terrorists negotiating with terrorists. Why is that a problem?

Show proof that Israel is an internationally recognized terror group. Hamas is.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are misusing this term "Colonial:" See • Posting #3176 • Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border.

(COMMENT)

The tactical danger to Israeli Sovereign Territory is not any less dangerous than the tactical danger to Israeli activities in Area "C" threats.

To my knowledge, Israel, as a nation, and the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) do not consider people and personnel as an expendable supply or combat consumable (cannon fodder). The use of people and personnel in the role of an expendable is well below the threshold of their value and potential. It is not a concept in the vocabulary of an ethical nation or operational military decision process. While the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) may use their own people to in the role of shields, hostages and concealment devices, it is NOT the policy of Israel to exploit “the civilian population and individual citizens." It is the purpose of the IDF, and the associated police, security services, and emergency responders that civilian population and individual citizens enjoy the general protection against the dangers arising from both allied and hostile military operations.

Further, it is NOT the policy of the State of Israel to utilize the presence of any civilian population in a role to prevent or delay any legitimate military target, from an attack from the opposing force. It is also not a policy or a tactical practice of the IDF to intentionally position any civilian population for the sole purpose of staging a media event or purposely set the conditions such that civilian casualties would be incurred.

While the HoAP has demonstrated over and over again the callous indifference for the life of its civilian population and acted in direct and intentional violation of Customary and International Humanitarian Law, the Israelis do not condone or encourage such actions.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel could stop the rockets out of Gaza today if it wanted. But it doesn't.

Why would Israel negotiate with terrorists?

Terrorists negotiating with terrorists. Why is that a problem?

It’s more a matter of Islamic terrorists making demands from a position of a presumed entitlement. There’s also an issue of which cabal of Islamic terrorists is anyone supposed to negotiate with. As you know, your heroes in Hamas are in direct competition with the Islamic terrorists in the West Bank. They are separate and distinct entities with mutually exclusive agendas,

Israel and Gaza were supposed to hammer out a long term agreement in 2014. What happened to that?

Israel is a Democracy. Hamas and Fatah are terror groups. A 10-yr old knows this. Are you smarter than a 10yr old? Tinmore? You and your buddy Steve deserve one another.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are misusing this term "Colonial:" See • Posting #3176 • Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border.

(COMMENT)

The tactical danger to Israeli Sovereign Territory is not any less dangerous than the tactical danger to Israeli activities in Area "C" threats.

To my knowledge, Israel, as a nation, and the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) do not consider people and personnel as an expendable supply or combat consumable (cannon fodder). The use of people and personnel in the role of an expendable is well below the threshold of their value and potential. It is not a concept in the vocabulary of an ethical nation or operational military decision process. While the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) may use their own people to in the role of shields, hostages and concealment devices, it is NOT the policy of Israel to exploit “the civilian population and individual citizens." It is the purpose of the IDF, and the associated police, security services, and emergency responders that civilian population and individual citizens enjoy the general protection against the dangers arising from both allied and hostile military operations.

Further, it is NOT the policy of the State of Israel to utilize the presence of any civilian population in a role to prevent or delay any legitimate military target, from an attack from the opposing force. It is also not a policy or a tactical practice of the IDF to intentionally position any civilian population for the sole purpose of staging a media event or purposely set the conditions such that civilian casualties would be incurred.

While the HoAP has demonstrated over and over again the callous indifference for the life of its civilian population and acted in direct and intentional violation of Customary and International Humanitarian Law, the Israelis do not condone or encourage such actions.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel could stop the rockets out of Gaza today if it wanted. But it doesn't.

Why would Israel negotiate with terrorists?

Terrorists negotiating with terrorists. Why is that a problem?

It’s more a matter of Islamic terrorists making demands from a position of a presumed entitlement. There’s also an issue of which cabal of Islamic terrorists is anyone supposed to negotiate with. As you know, your heroes in Hamas are in direct competition with the Islamic terrorists in the West Bank. They are separate and distinct entities with mutually exclusive agendas,

Israel and Gaza were supposed to hammer out a long term agreement in 2014. What happened to that?

Tunnels into Israel were destroyed with a large number of Jihadi rats still in, several mortars were fired at soldiers, IDF passed a message from above.

Then You moved the embassy to Jerusalem, nothing changed significantly security wise.
Though with each round there's less and less for the Jihadis to negotiate or play proud about, not all that shines is gold, nylon can shine with one's face on the martyr poster as well, but only for only so long.

 

[rylah]

Almagor chairman Meir Indor

Israel National News | Israel's #1 News Site

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Surrender is NOT an option!

Israel could stop the rockets out of Gaza today if it wanted. But it doesn't.

(COMMENT)

There is no reason to believe that the conflict would cease, even if the Israelis open the borders to real refugees. They have demonstrated they are not trustworthy in that regard.

There is no reasonable condition under which peace can be made with the Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters of the Gaza Strip. It did not work in 2005 and there is no reason to believe it would work now.

And you cannot show any sustained peace with the Arab Palestinians in over 100 years.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[rylah]

Yishai Fleisher: the information battle for Jewish permanence in Judea & Samaria (part 2 of 2)

 

[P F Tinmore]

Almagor chairman Meir Indor

Israel National News | Israel's #1 News Site

Wow, dealing out a whole deck of terrorist cards.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Surrender is NOT an option!

Israel could stop the rockets out of Gaza today if it wanted. But it doesn't.

(COMMENT)

There is no reason to believe that the conflict would cease, even if the Israelis open the borders to real refugees. They have demonstrated they are not trustworthy in that regard.

There is no reasonable condition under which peace can be made with the Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters of the Gaza Strip. It did not work in 2005 and there is no reason to believe it would work now.

And you cannot show any sustained peace with the Arab Palestinians in over 100 years.

Most Respectfully,
R

And you cannot show any sustained peace with the Arab Palestinians in over 100 years.

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Twice in one day!

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

(QUESTION)

What Settler Colonial Project? Where?

We cannot be talking about Area "C" since the Arab Palestinians agree to full Israeli civil and security control.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East? The Special Committee on Decolonization only recognizes four (4) countries as colonial powers (UK, US, NZ, France), none of which have holding anywhere in the Middle East.

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation. There is no evidence of a colonial project sponsored by the Israelis anywhere in the Middle East, Mediterranean, or Gulf Region.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Twice in one day!

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

(QUESTION)

What Settler Colonial Project? Where?

We cannot be talking about Area "C" since the Arab Palestinians agree to full Israeli civil and security control.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East? The Special Committee on Decolonization only recognizes four (4) countries as colonial powers (UK, US, NZ, France), none of which have holding anywhere in the Middle East.

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation. There is no evidence of a colonial project sponsored by the Israelis anywhere in the Middle East, Mediterranean, or Gulf Region.

Most Respectfully,
R

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation.

Come on, Rocco, Israel is the bullshit capital of the world. Almost everything you know about Israel is a lie.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Twice in one day!

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

(QUESTION)

What Settler Colonial Project? Where?

We cannot be talking about Area "C" since the Arab Palestinians agree to full Israeli civil and security control.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East? The Special Committee on Decolonization only recognizes four (4) countries as colonial powers (UK, US, NZ, France), none of which have holding anywhere in the Middle East.

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation. There is no evidence of a colonial project sponsored by the Israelis anywhere in the Middle East, Mediterranean, or Gulf Region.

Most Respectfully,
R

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East?

The UN did in other resolutions.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Twice in one day!

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

(QUESTION)

What Settler Colonial Project? Where?

We cannot be talking about Area "C" since the Arab Palestinians agree to full Israeli civil and security control.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East? The Special Committee on Decolonization only recognizes four (4) countries as colonial powers (UK, US, NZ, France), none of which have holding anywhere in the Middle East.

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation. There is no evidence of a colonial project sponsored by the Israelis anywhere in the Middle East, Mediterranean, or Gulf Region.

Most Respectfully,
R

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East?

The UN did in other resolutions.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This "claim" and its "implication" is handy as an accusation; but wholly unsubstantiated.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East?

The UN did in other resolutions.

(COMMENT)

I would be very interested in any UN Resolution (enforceable or otherwise) identifying Israel as an Administrator of a C-24 NSGT.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a very good question.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

(COMMENT)

Internationally, HAMAS is a State sponsor of terrorism.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This "claim" and its "implication" is handy as an accusation; but wholly unsubstantiated.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East?

The UN did in other resolutions.

(COMMENT)

I would be very interested in any UN Resolution (enforceable or otherwise) identifying Israel as an Administrator of a C-24 NSGT.

Most Respectfully,
R

Considering that the denial of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian
people to self-determination, sovereignty, independence and return to
Palestine and the repeated acts of aggression by Israel against the peoples of
the region constitute a serious threat to international peace and security,

1. Calls upon all States to implement fully and faithfully the
resolutions of the United Nations regarding the exercise of the right to
self-determination and independence by peoples under colonial and foreign
domination;

2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for
independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from
colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means,
including armed struggle;

3. Reaffirms the inalienable right of the Namibian people, the
Palestinian people and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination to
self-determination, national independence, territorial integrity, national
unity and sovereignty without outside interference;

12. Strongly condemns the continued violations of the human rights of
the peoples still under colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation,
the continuation of the illegal occupation of Namibia, and South Africa's
attempts to dismember its Territory, the perpetuation of the racist minority
regime in southern Africa and the denial to the Palestinian people of their
inalienable national rights;

18. Strongly condemns those Governments that do not recognize the right
to self-determination and independence of all peoples still under colonial and
foreign domination and alien subjugation, notably the peoples of Africa and
the Palestinian people;

A/RES/37/43. Importance of the universal realization of the right of peoples to self-determination and of the speedy granting of independence to colonial countries and peoples for the effective guarantee and observance of human rights

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a very good question.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

(COMMENT)

Internationally, HAMAS is a State sponsor of terrorism.

Most Respectfully,
R

How many countries call Hamas terrorists and how many don't?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

Twice in one day!

True. That is about when the settler colonial project started.

(QUESTION)

What Settler Colonial Project? Where?

We cannot be talking about Area "C" since the Arab Palestinians agree to full Israeli civil and security control.

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East? The Special Committee on Decolonization only recognizes four (4) countries as colonial powers (UK, US, NZ, France), none of which have holding anywhere in the Middle East.

In any event, we have to remember that the Hostile Arab Palestinians are often caught spreading misinformation and/or disinformation. There is no evidence of a colonial project sponsored by the Israelis anywhere in the Middle East, Mediterranean, or Gulf Region.

Most Respectfully,
R

When did the UN Committee 24 determine that there were any Non-Self-Governing Territories (NSGTs) in the Middle East?

The UN did in other resolutions.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

I don't know. That is an Israeli propaganda thing.

 

[RoccoR]

]RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

You better read this again.

3. Reaffirms the inalienable right of the Namibian people, the
Palestinian people and all peoples under foreign and colonial domination to
self-determination, national independence, territorial integrity, national
unity and sovereignty without outside interference;

(COMMENT)

This is diplomatic jargon and constructed in a particular way. It is the "union" of two sets.

✦ Set A are "the Palestinian People"
✦ Set B are "all people under foreign and colonial domination"​

→ "the Palestinian People" ∪ "all people under foreign and colonial domination"​

The Palestinian people are NOT the same as the peoples under foreign and colonial domination.

It should also be understood that the Arab Palestinian People consider themselves a "state."
IF they are a STATE - THEN they are not a Non-Self-Governing Territory under the administration of a Colonial Power..

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a very good question.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

(COMMENT)

Internationally, HAMAS is a State sponsor of terrorism.

Most Respectfully,
R

How many countries call Hamas terrorists and how many don't?

Why do you think various countries have a reason to identify Hamas as a state sponsor of terrorism?

Can you offer something besides a conspiracy theory?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ "P F Tinmore, et al,

This is a very good question.

Which of those applied to Islamic terrorist enclaves?

(COMMENT)

Internationally, HAMAS is a State sponsor of terrorism.

Most Respectfully,
R

How many countries call Hamas terrorists and how many don't?

Why do you think various countries have a reason to identify Hamas as a state sponsor of terrorism?

Can you offer something besides a conspiracy theory?

Nice deflection.