White Nationalism’s Deep American Roots

[Leo123]

WE are not being killed of in any sense of the word. We are becoming more diverse-as a nation and genetically as individuals -and that is a good thing. There is strength in diversity in society and in biology. I actually think that you people are clinically paranoid which is fueling your racism and xenophobia.

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

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Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Diversity, to me, does not mean multi-cultures nor does it mean wiping out a genetic strain.

 

[impuretrash]

WE are not being killed of in any sense of the word. We are becoming more diverse-as a nation and genetically as individuals -and that is a good thing. There is strength in diversity in society and in biology. I actually think that you people are clinically paranoid which is fueling your racism and xenophobia.

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

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Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Diversity, to me, does not mean multi-cultures nor does it mean wiping out a genetic strain.

I am a strong advocate for true diversity.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Diversity, to me, does not mean multi-cultures nor does it mean wiping out a genetic strain.

It's only important what the proponents of "diversity" mean. We know what they mean.

 

[Leo123]

Diversity, to me, does not mean multi-cultures nor does it mean wiping out a genetic strain.

It's only important what the proponents of "diversity" mean. We know what they mean.

Well, to me it's equally important to push-back on obvious co-opting of word definitions. Diversity alone does not mean racism nor does it mean segmenting a once cohesive culture into tribes.

 

[Bush92]

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Robert Bowers wanted everyone to know why he did it.

“I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered,” he posted on the social-media network Gab shortly before allegedly entering the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh on October 27 and gunning down 11 worshippers. He “wanted all Jews to die,” he declared while he was being treated for his wounds. Invoking the specter of white Americans facing “genocide,” he singled out HIAS, a Jewish American refugee-support group, and accused it of bringing “invaders in that kill our people.” Then–Attorney General Jeff Sessions, announcing that Bowers would face federal charges, was unequivocal in his condemnation: “These alleged crimes are incomprehensibly evil and utterly repugnant to the values of this nation.”

The pogrom in Pittsburgh, occurring just days before the 80th anniversary of Kristallnacht, seemed fundamentally un-American to many. Sessions’s denunciation spoke to the reality that most Jews have found a welcome home in the United States. His message also echoed what has become an insistent refrain in the Donald Trump era. Americans want to believe that the surge in white-supremacist violence and recruitment—the march in Charlottesville, Virginia, where neo-Nazis chanted “Jews will not replace us”; the hate crimes whose perpetrators invoke the president’s name as a battle cry—has no roots in U.S. soil, that it is racist zealotry with a foreign pedigree and marginal allure.

The president’s rhetoric about “shithole countries” invites dismissal as crude talk, but behind it lie ideas whose power should not be underestimated.

Warnings from conservative pundits on Fox News about the existential threat facing a country overrun by immigrants meet with a similar response. “Massive demographic changes,” Laura Ingraham has proclaimed, mean that “the America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore” in much of the country: Surely this kind of rhetoric reflects mere ignorance. Or it’s just a symptom of partisan anxiety about what those changes may portend for Republicans’ electoral prospects. As for the views and utterances of someone like Congressman Steve King (“We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies”), such sentiments are treated as outlandish extremism, best ignored as much as possible.

The concept of “white genocide”—extinction under an onslaught of genetically or culturally inferior nonwhite interlopers—may indeed seem like a fringe conspiracy theory with an alien lineage, the province of neo-Nazis and their fellow travelers. In popular memory, it’s a vestige of a racist ideology that the Greatest Generation did its best to scour from the Earth. History, though, tells a different story. King’s recent question, posed in a New York Times interview, may be appalling: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization—how did that language become offensive?” But it is apt. “That language” has an American past in need of excavation. Without such an effort, we may fail to appreciate the tenacity of the dogma it expresses, and the difficulty of eradicating it. The president’s rhetoric about “shithole countries” and “invasion” by immigrants invites dismissal as crude talk, but behind it lie ideas whose power should not be underestimated.

The seed of Nazism’s ultimate objective—the preservation of a pure white race, uncontaminated by foreign blood—was in fact sown with striking success in the United States. What is judged extremist today was once the consensus of a powerful cadre of the American elite, well-connected men who eagerly seized on a false doctrine of “race suicide” during the immigration scare of the early 20th century. They included wealthy patricians, intellectuals, lawmakers, even several presidents. Perhaps the most important among them was a blue blood with a very impressive mustache, Madison Grant. He was the author of a 1916 book called The Passing of the Great Race, which spread the doctrine of race purity all over the globe.

Continued here:
White Nationalism’s Deep American Roots​

White nationalism made the USA the greatest nation on earth.

 

[Bush92]

And there is the irony that the worse of your people (the racists) react very poorly at even the thought of having to endure the same treatment that they have subjected so many others to

Are you even remotely aware of the sins of the tribes "your people" committed (and commit) on your continent?

Physician, heal thyself!

Yesterday is yesterday, and today is today. I've done nothing ti you and nothing to feel guilty about regarding blacks living here. You have every opportunity here. Consider yourself blessed to live here. Otherwise, fuck off!

Still pissed huh? Good

I resent your endless whining because you people are utter failures and totally dependent wherever you live.

“I will trade my native ground for some strong whiskey.”
- Chief Passed Out Bull

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘The president’s rhetoric about “shithole countries” invites dismissal as crude talk, but behind it lie ideas whose power should not be underestimated.’ ibid

Correct.

The power of fear, ignorance, bigotry, racism, and hate.

And the power of a president who is in fact a bigot and racist.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The New Zealand Shooter's Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress | HuffPost

The shooter also devotes an entire section to how “Diversity is weak.”

Diversity is not a strength. Unity, purpose, trust, traditions, nationalism and racial nationalism is what provides strength. Everything else is a catchphrase.

And here’s a now-infamous tweet from Steve King where he says “diversity is not our strength” and links to an article praising nationalist Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban:

Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://pgj.cc/PT7SoT

What's your point with the spam? Just because a murderer has some certain ideas doesnt mean that everyone with those ideas is a murderer.

I'm not suggesting that King and Gohmert are murders so your criticism fails from the get go. The point is that their words can and do inspire and give license to people who are murderers

Correct.

The point is also that the New Zealand terrorist’s beliefs do not exists solely in the realm of the extreme, far right – we hear the same ignorant, hateful rhetoric from mainstream conservatives, such as wrongheaded references to immigrants as ‘invaders’ (“We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history”) and an unwarranted hostility toward diversity (“Diversity is not a strength”).

As long as conservatives continue to ignore the consequences of their rhetoric hostile to immigrants in general, and Muslims in particular, similar terrorist attacks against immigrant communities will occur again.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

we are a nation of laws and now religious law will ever take precedence over the constitution . We have a history of democracy, stability and secular rule.

Please tell me you're not actually this stupid. The Constitution is being subverted all over the fucking country right before your very eyes.

What’s stupid is the notion that the Constitution is being ‘subverted’ – it’s as ignorant as it is ridiculous and wrong.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Please tell me you're not actually this stupid. The Constitution is being subverted all over the fucking country right before your very eyes.

The Constitution is treated every single day like toilet paper at the border and by sanctuary city types and the media and
the left (but I repeat myself) demonizes and makes enemies of the people who try to actually preserve our sovereignty.

The idea that the Constitution is firmly in place and nothing can ever displace or supersede it is hilarious, in an ominous sick sort of way. We may be within a generation or two away from replacing the Constitution and becoming a failed experiment in freedom though I don't wish to be too dire or gloomy.

And another rightwing nitwit chimes in exhibiting his ignorance of the Constitution and the law.

 

[impuretrash]

The New Zealand Shooter's Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress | HuffPost

The shooter also devotes an entire section to how “Diversity is weak.”

Diversity is not a strength. Unity, purpose, trust, traditions, nationalism and racial nationalism is what provides strength. Everything else is a catchphrase.

And here’s a now-infamous tweet from Steve King where he says “diversity is not our strength” and links to an article praising nationalist Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban:

Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://pgj.cc/PT7SoT

What's your point with the spam? Just because a murderer has some certain ideas doesnt mean that everyone with those ideas is a murderer.

I'm not suggesting that King and Gohmert are murders so your criticism fails from the get go. The point is that their words can and do inspire and give license to people who are murderers

Correct.

The point is also that the New Zealand terrorist’s beliefs do not exists solely in the realm of the extreme, far right – we hear the same ignorant, hateful rhetoric from mainstream conservatives, such as wrongheaded references to immigrants as ‘invaders’ (“We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history”) and an unwarranted hostility toward diversity (“Diversity is not a strength”).

As long as conservatives continue to ignore the consequences of their rhetoric hostile to immigrants in general, and Muslims in particular, similar terrorist attacks against immigrant communities will occur again.

When are you going to hold your side responsible for their role in instigating violence?

 

[BWK]

I think you missed the point. The Schematic diagram for section 8 housing had low income minorities in mind after the civil rights movement to keep them segregated. It worked. And it still is to this day. Keep them over there, out of sight and out of mind. But with the demographic up tick, there is also the rise in these domestic white terrorist groups, spear headed by Trump.

How does a diagram have a mind? Section 8 was instituted by humans for low income individuals.

It doesn't. I'm merely using that to describe the Section. The place designated for minorities.

 

[BWK]

The New Zealand Shooter's Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress | HuffPost

The shooter also devotes an entire section to how “Diversity is weak.”

Diversity is not a strength. Unity, purpose, trust, traditions, nationalism and racial nationalism is what provides strength. Everything else is a catchphrase.

And here’s a now-infamous tweet from Steve King where he says “diversity is not our strength” and links to an article praising nationalist Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban:

Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://pgj.cc/PT7SoT

What's your point with the spam? Just because a murderer has some certain ideas doesnt mean that everyone with those ideas is a murderer.

I'm not suggesting that King and Gohmert are murders so your criticism fails from the get go. The point is that their words can and do inspire and give license to people who are murderers

Correct.

The point is also that the New Zealand terrorist’s beliefs do not exists solely in the realm of the extreme, far right – we hear the same ignorant, hateful rhetoric from mainstream conservatives, such as wrongheaded references to immigrants as ‘invaders’ (“We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history”) and an unwarranted hostility toward diversity (“Diversity is not a strength”).

As long as conservatives continue to ignore the consequences of their rhetoric hostile to immigrants in general, and Muslims in particular, similar terrorist attacks against immigrant communities will occur again.

When are you going to hold your side responsible for their role in instigating violence?

"Side?" What "side?" I thought this was a "we the people" country?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

WE are not being killed of in any sense of the word. We are becoming more diverse-as a nation and genetically as individuals -and that is a good thing. There is strength in diversity in society and in biology. I actually think that you people are clinically paranoid which is fueling your racism and xenophobia.

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

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Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Yes I would be. But we are not being pushed our of our habitat . I have all of the habitat that I need and am willing to share it. In fact delighted to share it. It makes my life experience richer.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

View attachment 250602

Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Diversity, to me, does not mean multi-cultures nor does it mean wiping out a genetic strain.

I am a strong advocate for true diversity.

Really? What is "true diversity"?

 

[BWK]

WE are not being killed of in any sense of the word. We are becoming more diverse-as a nation and genetically as individuals -and that is a good thing. There is strength in diversity in society and in biology. I actually think that you people are clinically paranoid which is fueling your racism and xenophobia.

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

View attachment 250602

Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Grizzlies do not cross breed with Pandas you idiot. They're different species. These white Nationalists are so damn stupid.

 

[BWK]

WE are not being killed of in any sense of the word. We are becoming more diverse-as a nation and genetically as individuals -and that is a good thing. There is strength in diversity in society and in biology. I actually think that you people are clinically paranoid which is fueling your racism and xenophobia.

In the sense of genes, diversity is indeed preferable however, that does not mean that multi-culture is good for a country. We have an American culture that includes diverse ethnic groups with traditions that assimilate into American culture. That is reality, the rest is bullshit.

View attachment 250602

Looks good to me. Thank you for being honest about your racism. That is the best thing that I can say to you.

If white people were fucking pandas or grizzlies or whatever you'd be upset at the idea of them being pushed out of their habitat and crossbred into extinction. White genes are fragile and rare and beautiful and deserve to be protected.

Yes I would be. But we are not being pushed our of our habitat . I have all of the habitat that I need and am willing to share it. In fact delighted to share it. It makes my life experience richer.

They listen to Trump's tribal chatter, then run with it. Until we get him out of office, these massacres are going to continue.

 

[BWK]

The New Zealand Shooter's Rhetoric Sounds Like Something You Might Hear In Congress | HuffPost

The shooter also devotes an entire section to how “Diversity is weak.”

Diversity is not a strength. Unity, purpose, trust, traditions, nationalism and racial nationalism is what provides strength. Everything else is a catchphrase.

And here’s a now-infamous tweet from Steve King where he says “diversity is not our strength” and links to an article praising nationalist Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban:

Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://pgj.cc/PT7SoT

What's your point with the spam? Just because a murderer has some certain ideas doesnt mean that everyone with those ideas is a murderer.

I'm not suggesting that King and Gohmert are murders so your criticism fails from the get go. The point is that their words can and do inspire and give license to people who are murderers

Correct.

The point is also that the New Zealand terrorist’s beliefs do not exists solely in the realm of the extreme, far right – we hear the same ignorant, hateful rhetoric from mainstream conservatives, such as wrongheaded references to immigrants as ‘invaders’ (“We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history”) and an unwarranted hostility toward diversity (“Diversity is not a strength”).

As long as conservatives continue to ignore the consequences of their rhetoric hostile to immigrants in general, and Muslims in particular, similar terrorist attacks against immigrant communities will occur again.

When are you going to hold your side responsible for their role in instigating violence?

Did they massacre 49 people?

 

[MaryL]

Hutus slaughtered the Tutsis. Black on black state sponsored violence, that mitigates claims of racism now in ANY sense or nationality.

 

[BWK]

What is so awful about white people having nations to call home?

There is nothing terrible about having or wanting nations to call home. Decimating the native populations and anyone else who isn't white by killing them is where the problem lies.

And there is the irony that the worse of your people (the racists) react very poorly at even the thought of having to endure the same treatment that they have subjected so many others to.

No I don't reckon I'd like it too much if someone tried to infect me and my family with smallpox.

Do you believe the native Americans were intentionally infected? Or just negligently?

You do realize that there were wars among the Native American tribes, right?
It was a way of life....as brutal as it was. What's the difference other than skin color when
the white man came over and started the migration west.

Aztecs had sacrificed 100,000 people to their serpent god the same year the spanish arrived.

Trump's tribal cult wouldn't think it twice if they were told to do so. And don't ever think he won't have them do it. This dude is mentally and criminally sick.