Google is your friend asshat. There are many, many legitimate recreational uses for guns other than killing. Fell free to look it up and educate yourself.
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Which killed more people, 2 rifles, or one rental truck?
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Google is your friend asshat. There are many, many legitimate recreational uses for guns other than killing. Fell free to look it up and educate yourself.
Skull Pilot
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Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.Also if that is the case why make guns that kill people. A BB gun is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice. There would be no need to sell a firearm beyond that power if that were the only reason for it's design. They were designed for killing.Yes I amYou are certainly not using them for what they were designed for.So if I never killed anyone with any of my guns I must be using them incorrectly right?
A firearm is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice.
A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Tuatara
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No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.Also if that is the case why make guns that kill people. A BB gun is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice. There would be no need to sell a firearm beyond that power if that were the only reason for it's design. They were designed for killing.Yes I amYou are certainly not using them for what they were designed for.
A firearm is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice.
A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Skull Pilot
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No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.Also if that is the case why make guns that kill people. A BB gun is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice. There would be no need to sell a firearm beyond that power if that were the only reason for it's design. They were designed for killing.Yes I am
A firearm is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice.
A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Asclepias
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You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.Also if that is the case why make guns that kill people. A BB gun is designed to propel a projectile at a high velocity at the target of the shooter's choice. There would be no need to sell a firearm beyond that power if that were the only reason for it's design. They were designed for killing.
A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Why are weapons like this ever sold to anyone in the first place. These are not weapons for hunting deer or 'possums. These are not weapons for those "law abiding citizens" to protect themselves.If he had a federal permit for automatic weapons it's an easy thing to find out.
If he didn't then all his full auto weapons were illegally obtained.
If he modified semiautomatic weapons then they are still illegal
I
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting deer or possums.
You really should educate yourself about that.
Asclepias
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We already have a well regulated militia. So why do civilians need guns?Why are weapons like this ever sold to anyone in the first place. These are not weapons for hunting deer or 'possums. These are not weapons for those "law abiding citizens" to protect themselves.If he had a federal permit for automatic weapons it's an easy thing to find out.
If he didn't then all his full auto weapons were illegally obtained.
If he modified semiautomatic weapons then they are still illegal
I
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting deer or possums.
You really should educate yourself about that.
Fueri
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it's not the choice of weapon, IMO, it's how skillfully it is used in conjunction with how said attacks are planned.
I'm more concerned that this moron gave more organized terrorists another jim dandy of an idea than I am with either rifles or trucks per se right now.
not good...
I'm more concerned that this moron gave more organized terrorists another jim dandy of an idea than I am with either rifles or trucks per se right now.
not good...
Skull Pilot
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You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Skull Pilot
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We already have a well regulated militia. So why do civilians need guns?Why are weapons like this ever sold to anyone in the first place. These are not weapons for hunting deer or 'possums. These are not weapons for those "law abiding citizens" to protect themselves.If he had a federal permit for automatic weapons it's an easy thing to find out.
If he didn't then all his full auto weapons were illegally obtained.
If he modified semiautomatic weapons then they are still illegal
I
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting deer or possums.
You really should educate yourself about that.
The militia as defined in the Constitution is comprised of and led by the people not the government
Asclepias
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Show me this definition in the constitution.We already have a well regulated militia. So why do civilians need guns?Why are weapons like this ever sold to anyone in the first place. These are not weapons for hunting deer or 'possums. These are not weapons for those "law abiding citizens" to protect themselves.If he had a federal permit for automatic weapons it's an easy thing to find out.
If he didn't then all his full auto weapons were illegally obtained.
If he modified semiautomatic weapons then they are still illegal
I
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting deer or possums.
You really should educate yourself about that.
The militia as defined in the Constitution is comprised of and led by the people not the government
Asclepias
Diamond Member
With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Skull Pilot
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Show me this definition in the constitution.We already have a well regulated militia. So why do civilians need guns?Why are weapons like this ever sold to anyone in the first place. These are not weapons for hunting deer or 'possums. These are not weapons for those "law abiding citizens" to protect themselves.If he had a federal permit for automatic weapons it's an easy thing to find out.
If he didn't then all his full auto weapons were illegally obtained.
If he modified semiautomatic weapons then they are still illegal
I
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting deer or possums.
You really should educate yourself about that.
The militia as defined in the Constitution is comprised of and led by the people not the government
No words are defined in the Constitution it was the vernacular of the times. Just like "well regulated" meant in good working order or disciplined and did not mean government controlled as we take it to mean today
Skull Pilot
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With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Not all people who fire a gun intend to kill. I intend never to kill anyone with any gun I own. I do intend to fire at lots of targets and clay pigeons though
The intent belongs to the person not the gun.
Asclepias
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Besides the point. They were designed to kill and a chainsaw wasnt.With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Not all people who fire a gun intend to kill. I intend never to kill anyone with any gun I own. I do intend to fire at lots of targets and clay pigeons though
The intent belongs to the person not the gun.
Skull Pilot
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Besides the point. They were designed to kill and a chainsaw wasnt.With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Not all people who fire a gun intend to kill. I intend never to kill anyone with any gun I own. I do intend to fire at lots of targets and clay pigeons though
The intent belongs to the person not the gun.
The purpose of any tool is decided by the user of that tool.
Asclepias
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Nope. The purpose of any tool is decided by the person that invented it.Besides the point. They were designed to kill and a chainsaw wasnt.With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.
Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Not all people who fire a gun intend to kill. I intend never to kill anyone with any gun I own. I do intend to fire at lots of targets and clay pigeons though
The intent belongs to the person not the gun.
The purpose of any tool is decided by the user of that tool.
Skull Pilot
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Nope. The purpose of any tool is decided by the person that invented it.Besides the point. They were designed to kill and a chainsaw wasnt.With the intent to kill. Lets not pretend to be mentally handicapped. No one is dumb enough to actually think guns were designed for target practice. At least try to be credible.Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target.
What that target is is determined by the person pulling the trigger.
Not all people who fire a gun intend to kill. I intend never to kill anyone with any gun I own. I do intend to fire at lots of targets and clay pigeons though
The intent belongs to the person not the gun.
The purpose of any tool is decided by the user of that tool.
If I use a wrench to drive a nail its purpose as I use it is to drive nails.
If I use a wrench to crack some guy's head open its purpose at the time of use is to crack a skull open
The purpose of any tool is defined by the user of that tool at the time it is being used
If a person uses a rock as a tool who defines what the purpose is? The maker of the rock or the person using the rock?
OldLady
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We need to make that Bump Stock illegal. Yesterday.The guy in Vegas had two illegal rifles.....versus the other 8,000,000 rifles that law abiding people own and didn't use to commit murder...
He used those rifles to murder 58 people...having passed every single gun control measure the anti-gunners wanted...and would have passed a universal background check as well as registering those guns if it had been required...and if he used 30 round magazines, he could have killed just as many people with 10 round magazines....
58 people...
A muslim terrorist in France, who didn't have to pass any background check used a rental truck to murder 89 people.....And wounded 458....
2016 Nice attack - Wikipedia
So...which killed more people....two rifles, or one rental truck?
Which was harder to get, the two rifles or the rental truck?
OldLady
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Did you buy your gun?You fail to understand guns were designed to kill and chainsaws were designed to cut wood. There is a vast difference.No it is not. It is the whole point.Meaning you want weapons that have better tools for killing.A BB gun can kill a person under the right circumstances.
BBs are not accurate and have very limited range
No I want to be able to hit a target with accuracy at a distance. BB guns can't do that
A gun fires a projectile that is all it does. That a projectile fired from a gun can kill is a moot point.
Shit you can throw a baseball fast enough to kill someone
Of course it is because the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owner never kill anyone. A guns is designed to fire a projectile. A chainsaw is designed to remove chunks of material both can be used to kill. It all depends on the choice of the person wielding them
You fail to understand that the target is not the choice of the gun it is the choice of the person pulling the trigger.
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