PLYMCO_PILGRIM
Gold Member
I've heard much about Obama's Administration and our current Democrat-run Congress taking away our freedoms from the Tea Party and GOP candidates attempting to rally the TP as their base. I honestly don't know what freedoms we've lost, other than the freedom to pay women less for the same work, the freedom for health insurance companies to victimize their clients (and citizens will have to have health insurance which I think of as losing a freedom to be irresponsible toward your fellow human beings), and the freedom for credit card companies to bamboozle their card holders. I remember when the Patriot Act passed and some of our freedoms actually were lost.
I would like to ask those who believe we've lost freedoms to explain which freedoms we've lost since the end of the last administration - in other words, what freedoms have we lost since the Obama administration took over. This isn't a challenge, I honestly want to understand the ever-growing point of view on this subject.
And, please, let's keep it civil.
I have 2 from the health care bill.
I have lost the freedom to choose not to buy health insurance from a private company.
I have lost the liberty to decide which level of health coverage I would like to pay for.
I get the growing feeling that his administration and many of the progressives in government want to take away my liberty to make other personal choices too. For example Boston wants to ban sugared drinks. Yes boston wants to take away my liberty of choice in beverages....whats next alcohol (oh yeah that doesn't work). Medical Daily: Boston may ban sugary drinks
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\I have 2 from the health care bill.
I have lost the freedom to choose not to buy health insurance from a private company.
I have lost the liberty to decide which level of health coverage I would like to pay for.
Do you currently have no insurace? If so, which Freedom have you lost?
How many Conservatives screaming about their loss of freedom are voluntarily without insurance? They just don't want other Americans to have it
Yes I currently Have insurance because I am forced by my state government to buy it. I have lost the freedom to choose to not purchase said insurance without negative financial consequences imposed by both my state and now the federal government.
If I was given the liberty to choose to not pay $80/week for health insurance I would not have health insurance right now I would have that money in my pocket. As it stands now I have lost that freedom of choice...if I do not have coverage my state will fine me $2000/year.
Your argument that people "just don't want other americans to have it(health insurance)" is what people call a straw man argument.