Which Freedoms Lost?

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    I've heard much about Obama's Administration and our current Democrat-run Congress taking away our freedoms from the Tea Party and GOP candidates attempting to rally the TP as their base. I honestly don't know what freedoms we've lost, other than the freedom to pay women less for the same work, the freedom for health insurance companies to victimize their clients (and citizens will have to have health insurance which I think of as losing a freedom to be irresponsible toward your fellow human beings), and the freedom for credit card companies to bamboozle their card holders. I remember when the Patriot Act passed and some of our freedoms actually were lost.

    I would like to ask those who believe we've lost freedoms to explain which freedoms we've lost since the end of the last administration - in other words, what freedoms have we lost since the Obama administration took over. This isn't a challenge, I honestly want to understand the ever-growing point of view on this subject.

    And, please, let's keep it civil.
     
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    It's not just about personal liberties, it's about freedom from stifling regulations in business as well.

    Liberals only see regulation as beneficial. Somehow it MUST be good for the people if we're holding business back.

    I hope someday that liberals can realize the negatives involved in much of today's regulation. How lobbyists typically WRITE those regulations so that competition can be stifled in the marketplace and the biggest companies can thrive.
     
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    And?
     
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    The freedom to not give my money to a health insurance company if I don't want to.
     
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    How many more business "freedoms" thru regulation have we lost since Obama became president?
     
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    And to counter this, I have gained the freedom to not fund your hospital bill when you can't pay.
     
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    Who says you would have to? Maybe I want to pay for it out of pocket. Or I work out a payment plan with the hospital. What would happen if you didn't have car insurance and you needed repairs? You think the tax payers would pick that up? Of course not. Why should health care service be any different?

    Regadless the point is made. I have lost the freedom to choose due directly to an Obama piece of legislation.
     
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    REALLY? You don't understand how our system works and yet you want to openly debate it? In America, hospital emergency rooms CANNOT deny you care by law. That is why it is different from car insurance.
     
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    Can not deny you is different than can not charge you.
     
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    I think business' should have the same "freedoms" we consumers have - including the "freedom" to pay the consequences of bad decisions.
     
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