Which Came First Creation Or Evolution?

[cnm]

Oh bullshit Fort Fun Indiana, you can take all the scientific evidence and still not be able to ascertain exactly what was happening on earth.

Absolutely. But we can be pretty sure about what we do have evidence for.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

Oh bullshit Fort Fun Indiana, you can take all the scientific evidence and still not be able to ascertain exactly what was happening on earth.

Absolutely. But we can be pretty sure about what we do have evidence for.

Is your evidence exhaustive or do you think there could be more?

 

[Weatherman2020]

What came first?
Tacos or Tuesday’s?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh bullshit Fort Fun Indiana, you can take all the scientific evidence and still not be able to ascertain exactly what was happening on earth.

Of course we can, with many, many things... not sure where you get this nonsense...

Just be honest, and stop with this dog and pony show. You reject scientific findings that don't jibe with your religious voodoo, and for no other reason.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And by the way the same way you are constantly updating and creating scientific evidence

Oh yeah? Do you think we will someday come to understand that you will actually fall UP, if you jum off of your roof?

Your religious text hasn't been updated in centuries. The only thing that has been "updated" is scientific knowledge that doesn't care what religion you favor. so, to keep from completely embarrassing yourselves, you religious people have to suddenly change the meanings of your bronze age religious texts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Creation. Evolution never occurred.

Oh my! Won't the entire global scientific community be embarrassed, when they find out!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Creation. Evolution never occurred.

Oh my! Won't the entire global scientific community be embarrassed, when they find out!

You’re delusional.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Creation. Evolution never occurred.

Oh my! Won't the entire global scientific community be embarrassed, when they find out!

You’re delusional.

What do you mean? Are you saying they wont be embarrassed, when you tell them???

 

[james bond]

There was no way for communication to travel from one part of the world to another.

What? YHWH couldn't spread a message or anything it felt like?

He uses angels. However, humans used world of mouth, waterways and horseback in ancient times which is local.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There was no way for communication to travel from one part of the world to another.

What? YHWH couldn't spread a message or anything it felt like?

He uses angels. However, humans used world of mouth, waterways and horseback in ancient times which is local.

Boy, he sure did a shit job. If the postal service were that bad, there would be widespread outrage.

 

[james bond]

You keep laughing at creation scientists

Will do.

Until pain and suffering strikes. Evo and mutation leads to cancer for example.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You keep laughing at creation scientists

Will do.

Until pain and suffering strikes. Evo and mutation leads to cancer for example.

And their baby, vaccines, prevents more diseases worldwide than there are cancers each year.

 

[james bond]

OTOH, Satan has less power over me because I believe in the King Jesus (higher power) and he protects me. He limits Satan's powers.

Satan owns your soul precisely because your ego tells you he doesn't!!!!

Ha ha. You have no idea how to prevent Satan from claiming your soul. I provided the evidence of your atheistic replies. OTOH, I gave enough warning to non-believers. Sometimes, I feel like the homeless guy with the John 3:16 poster and "Repent, the end is near" message. It's the most important message there is, equivalent to the ToK to Adam and Eve, but people just walk past him. The irony.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

Oh bullshit Fort Fun Indiana, you can take all the scientific evidence and still not be able to ascertain exactly what was happening on earth.

Of course we can, with many, many things... not sure where you get this nonsense...

Just be honest, and stop with this dog and pony show. You reject scientific findings that don't jibe with your religious voodoo, and for no other reason.

Your talking about yourself. You know it is probable. But if you say it you won't be the highest form of life and you are unwilling to concede that.

 

[james bond]

Satan has power over you. He can cause some illnesses. He can cause some death like airplane crashes.

Hogwash, nothing but primitive superstition. Satan has you afraid of your own shadow.

Not superstition, but what's in the Bible. Atheists do not have to use lower class 'g' for God. Even Richard Dawkins understands that to be taken seriously in literary circles, one has to use God. Yet, atheists deliberately use the lower class g which honors Satan. The irony. I wonder who decided to do that. Satan obviously influenced this person.

 

[james bond]

Even Jesus had to accept Satan as god of this world when he tempted him by saying, “I’ll give you all the kingdoms of the world if you bow down and worship me” Matthew 4:8-9. He knew that he could do this because while God created earth and it is his, he is not the god of this world and thus there is a conflict of interest between God and Satan.

lol...Jesus wasn't talking to any "god of this world."

That story is just about some guy in robes trying to talk Jesus out of doing what he knew was right by saying something like,

" Whats wrong with you Jeez? Why are you so upset about things? The romans aren't so bad. They brought us law and order. You are such a nice guy, smart, good looking, talented. Everyone likes you. You make beautiful furniture! Why rock the boat? Why be such a party pooper? Take a good look around. Anything you want can be yours. You could make tons of money, live on easy street, and have the whole world at your feet if you would just take my advice, get with the program, and quit all that crazy talk about good and evil and right and wrong....

This is the religious forum. God's Word is the objective truth and he gives us objective judgment. Jesus was tempted, but he sent Satan away. He didn't succumb to his tempting temptations. Lesser men would not have been able to pass up the offer if they were thirsty and hungry. The key is Jesus recognized Satan's power even though his power was greater. He acknowledged Satan's power and was able to avoid his wicked temptations.

I would not trust the Romans during that time. A few helped, but most were against Christianity.

 

[james bond]

As I said, geology (along with biology, zoology and astronomy) is one of the areas where evolution has its biggest lies.

Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

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Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

The Bible warns against believing people like her. Archangels as messengers and protectors are true, but she's not channeling any archangel..

The Bible doesn't like competition clearly.

Nothing more nutty about her than any of our 'Creation Scientists'.....lol

Not competition, but one truth. Can't you get that through your thick skull? There can't be part of this is correct while that part is not correct. The Bible can't change, but science textbooks change every year. It's either the Bible is all correct or evolution is all correct. However, we know that it isn't because the science changes yearly. Science only accepts the best theory of the moment until a better explanation is found.

As for creation scientists, they have been many of the greatest scientists of all time. It's only recently that atheist scientists have become known because the creation scientists have been left out of secular science. Is God upset about this? Sure. And there will be a "hell" of a price to pay by the atheist scientists and atheists who believe in their wrong science.

You keep laughing at creation scientists, but it's a serious matter when your real and future life is at stake.

But Mr. Bond, James Bond, the way creationist believe history, their have been observations that cause a subtle change in how we interrupt the bible. If that makes sense?

It's better to get someone who has experience teaching the Bible. It means Bible studies. Else like the person who thinks they are heading in the perpendicular direction from where they stand, unbeknownst to them, they are a degree off and later they wonder how they became lost.

 

[james bond]

As I said, geology (along with biology, zoology and astronomy) is one of the areas where evolution has its biggest lies.

Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

HEAVEN IS A PLACE ONLINE
Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

The Bible warns against believing people like her. Archangels as messengers and protectors are true, but she's not channeling any archangel..

The Bible doesn't like competition clearly.

Nothing more nutty about her than any of our 'Creation Scientists'.....lol

Not competition, but one truth. .

Religious communities around the world disagree with you. Not just scientists- but even the Catholic Church disagrees with you.

Your 'one truth' is nothing but the opinion of a small group of self selected quacks who believe that their interpretation of the big book of fairy tales is correct- and everyone else's- including that of science is wrong.

You act like that is news. Christians and Catholics have been split on doctrine since ancient times. Look up Council of Nicaea vs Council of Trent or Justification at Trent.

Again, you use the word fairy tales to refer to God's Word. It just accumulates your pain and suffering.

No, everyone else's science isn't wrong. It's just evo science. Just to discuss with you about long time, I have to go along with millions or billions of years, but the ages are relative. When you mean 13.7 billion or 4.5 billion years old, it means 6,000 years old.

 

[jillian]

Dr. Henry Morris, states, "One question remains. Assuming Satan to be the real source of the evolutionary concept, how did it originate in his mind? . . . A possible answer to this mystery could be that Satan, the father of lies, has not only deceived the whole world and the angelic hosts who followed him--he has even deceived himself! The only way he could really know about creation (just as the only way we can know about creation) was for God to tell him! . . . . He refused to believe and accept the Word of God concerning his own creation and place in God's economy . . . He therefore deceived himself into supposing that all things, including himself and including God, had been evolved by natural processes out of the primordial stuff of the universe. . . ." (Morris, Troubled Waters of Evolution, 1974, pp 74-75)."

He is correct in stating that we know about creation through the Bible or God's Word. Evolution came afterward as we see during the times of Paul, the Epicureans and Stoics.

http://www.huecotanks.com/debunk/devil.htm

"The Theory of Biological Evolution is most often associated with Charles Darwin, because it was Charles Darwin that proposed the mechanism of natural selection and accompanied that proposition with a large volume of empirical data providing evidence for biological evolution.

Darwin was not, however, the first person to propose an evolutionary explanation for the diversity of life on earth. In fact, evolutionary concepts about life date far back into history and arose in many different cultures. The Greeks developed a concept of evolution over 2,300 years ago that was basically equivalent to that of Charles Darwin's, but the early Christians opposed the idea and destroyed all of the works that promoted it or any other naturalistic explanations for earthly phenomena."

Understanding Evolution: History, Theory, Evidence, and Implictions

ETA: Both of my sources are atheist, so they could be lying. Still, the first one brings up an interesting question. We find science backs up the Bible, but science doesn't back up evolution. Thus, the first one is the truth and not the myth.

I got as far as "satan"... then stopped reading your insane nonsense.

 

[jillian]

Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

HEAVEN IS A PLACE ONLINE
Why A Million People Follow A Woman Who Says She's Channeling The Archangels

The Bible warns against believing people like her. Archangels as messengers and protectors are true, but she's not channeling any archangel..

The Bible doesn't like competition clearly.

Nothing more nutty about her than any of our 'Creation Scientists'.....lol

Not competition, but one truth. .

Religious communities around the world disagree with you. Not just scientists- but even the Catholic Church disagrees with you.

Your 'one truth' is nothing but the opinion of a small group of self selected quacks who believe that their interpretation of the big book of fairy tales is correct- and everyone else's- including that of science is wrong.

You act like that is news. Christians and Catholics have been split on doctrine since ancient times. Look up Council of Nicaea vs Council of Trent or Justification at Trent.

Again, you use the word fairy tales to refer to God's Word. It just accumulates your pain and suffering.

No, everyone else's science isn't wrong. It's just evo science. Just to discuss with you about long time, I have to go along with millions or billions of years, but the ages are relative. When you mean 13.7 billion or 4.5 billion years old, it means 6,000 years old.

how do you pretend it's G-d's word in the same sentence as you mention the council of nicea where Constantine and his buddies edited the gospels?