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dudette, "our guys" are making a profit as Merchants in Commerce, in weapons of micro and mass destruction. Why do you believe there is Any refugee problem, anywhere? Only the right wing believes in bringing on the Hellish Conditions of Warfare on Earth, on a for-profit basis.This is just an abstraction leading to a rationalization. Neither of which I accept. Besides naive fools, the only people supporting illegal immigrants are "Hispanic' immigrants right activists (enough PC terms for ya?) or the puppet masters behind this fiasco to begin with, the assholes that hire illegals.and destroy communities and wreck society for their short term short sighted PROFIT. Those are real bad guys in this mess. They neither have to live with the negative consequences nor do they care, and they play both sides of the issue by pretending to be humanitarian and they exploit these poor dumb bastards for profit at the same time.It is our public policies that are causing many of the problems of Latin America.How much does it cost to immigrate legally? I know a few Europeans that fled communism and they paid the price, lawyers and such. Mexicans aren't fleeing communism or death. Mexicans live next door, they think creeping and sneaking is the same as fleeing? I don't think so. Don't kid your self. "Mexican" so called immigrants aren't fleeing death squads, they are economic refugees. Don't we already have enough POOR that need jobs here already?
Just clueless and Causeless?It is our public policies that are causing many of the problems of Latin America.How much does it cost to immigrate legally? I know a few Europeans that fled communism and they paid the price, lawyers and such. Mexicans aren't fleeing communism or death. Mexicans live next door, they think creeping and sneaking is the same as fleeing? I don't think so. Don't kid your self. "Mexican" so called immigrants aren't fleeing death squads, they are economic refugees. Don't we already have enough POOR that need jobs here already?
Whoa! Where the hell do you get that? Do you know anything about the political, social, economic, and cultural situation in any of the Central and South American countries? Do you know anything about their histories?
If so, please inform us - with links - of any US programs or policies that force people from those countries to flee and come here!
If you can.
Can you show links as to why we can lower taxes while allegedly waging any form of War, anywhere?How much does it cost to immigrate legally? I know a few Europeans that fled communism and they paid the price, lawyers and such. Mexicans aren't fleeing communism or death. Mexicans live next door, they think creeping and sneaking is the same as fleeing? I don't think so. Don't kid your self. "Mexican" so called immigrants aren't fleeing death squads, they are economic refugees. Don't we already have enough POOR that need jobs here already?
Where do get this stuff?
Do you really believe that other refugees in history, other parts of the world, do you really believe they did not "creep and sneak"?
The US destroyed Mexico's economy. Now we invite them to come here to work and to sell drugs.
The question is, IF you believe we should guild a wall, which side of the border do you believe it should built on?
The US destroyed Mexico's economy. Now we invite them to come here to work and to sell drugs.
Oh my God! Another loonie who has no idea what he's talking about! Do you have the faintest idea of Mexican history? If you're so smart, give us some specifics with links.
If you can.
just more socialism on a national basis?Illegal immigration is more about exploitation, not so much about humanitarianism. People are exploiting illegals, they gain wealth from that, and they hide under the skirts of human rights activists that are defending illegal aliens. It's appalling. And it's tearing apart our culture, people must be morons or blind not to notice that. I don't think we need walls or closed borders, what we DO need is employers to be held accountable to immigration laws as they exist now. For people that created this mess to begin with, that their feet be held to the fire. Focus on the people that hire illegal aliens, without scruples. that will put a end to this big time.
i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?It is a matter of priority. First degrees should go, first.1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?It is a matter of priority. First degrees should go, first.1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
What you have is gibberish that you employ to hide your true meaning and intent.
i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?It is a matter of priority. First degrees should go, first.
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
What you have is gibberish that you employ to hide your true meaning and intent.
Except that his posts are correct.
The right DOES want scorched earth instead of solutions that would benefit the US and Mexico. And they want to spend more for it.
RWNJs knew trump was lying when he said Mexico would pay. Don't lie about it again. You DID know he was lying about that as well as about every thing else he has said. And yet, you voted for spending an enormous amount that will not benefit us and, in fact, will harm us. You know that as well.
. If the corporation is American, then it should be stocked with American goods to be offered to the citizens of Mexico through that American platform. If the Mexican citizen wants a Mexican made product, then it should be able to purchase their products from platforms in which they create. Does Mexico not protect a percentage of it's goods or small businesses in Mexico or is it selling itself out to multi-national corporations to be ruling the day in Mexico also ??they have Home Depot in Mexico now; should we insist they, at least, buy American ladders?I would say that it would be best to build it on land ,why would be build it on their land?Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!
Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.
Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.
So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...
No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.
Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.
There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===
Happy reading ... What do you think?
Rio Grande/Rio Bravo
http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm
Rio Grande - Wikipedia
The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order
1. It's not taking land away if the 12-30 MILLION Mexican Nationals living and working "undocumented/illegally" in the US claim that land for their legal residency.
2. And instead of "just building a wall"
why not build entire city complexes and campus development
for military bases and teaching hospitals, factory jobs and educational and social services:
Earned Amnesty
This can be a WIN WIN situation.
Why not create jobs and work opportunities under a collaborative plan that both immigrant workers/families, businesses and church charities, AND law enforcement/govt would support?
emilynghiem
I have often posted win/win solutions. This particular post is about the location of the wall - Do "you" believe it should be built on American land, land that is owned by American citizens? Or on land owned by Mexico?
1. It's not taking land away if the 12-30 MILLION Mexican Nationals living and working "undocumented/illegally" in the US claim that land for their legal residency.
1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
emilynghiem
Daysahead
Americans own land along the border and along the river.
Americans.
Not Mexicans.
Americans.
The question is, do "you" believe the wall should be built on land owned by America/Americans or on land owned by Mexico/Mexicans?
I posted links outlining some of the issues involved in building on either side.
just more socialism on a national basis?Illegal immigration is more about exploitation, not so much about humanitarianism. People are exploiting illegals, they gain wealth from that, and they hide under the skirts of human rights activists that are defending illegal aliens. It's appalling. And it's tearing apart our culture, people must be morons or blind not to notice that. I don't think we need walls or closed borders, what we DO need is employers to be held accountable to immigration laws as they exist now. For people that created this mess to begin with, that their feet be held to the fire. Focus on the people that hire illegal aliens, without scruples. that will put a end to this big time.
We should be solving our illegal alien problem with a market friendly visa that generates revenue via Capitalism.
I live with illegals, if you want a so called "market friendly economy" perhaps you had better live with the consequences FIRST. Nobody is above the law, illegals aliens don't get a free pass here.
. Yep, and the people of this nation are still paying a huge price for it's past bullcrap in having the idea of treating people like they are somehow deficient human beings that can only do certain things in life, and that they best be dam glad that they got the opportunity for that chance that was given to them. I-yi-yi..We don't need a wall. I said that before. What We really need is people to stop legitimizing illegal immigrants and stop hiring them. Illegals are the new slave class. Empowering illegals is just enslavement, let's get real here.
still all talk and still no action regarding healthcare?i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?It is a matter of priority. First degrees should go, first.1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
What you have is gibberish that you employ to hide your true meaning and intent.
From the article:
Most of the border – 65 percent of the nearly 2,000-mile border – has no fence. In its place are natural barriers such as rivers, cliffs and mountains that make it difficult to cross or difficult to build. Some of these are places with so little movement across the border that previous administrations have deemed a barrier unnecessary.
Prices are actually higher over there, for the same products.. If the corporation is American, then it should be stocked with American goods to be offered to the citizens of Mexico through that American platform. If the Mexican citizen wants a Mexican made product, then it should be able to purchase their products from platforms in which they create. Does Mexico not protect a percentage of it's goods or small businesses in Mexico or is it selling itself out to multi-national corporations to be ruling the day in Mexico also ??they have Home Depot in Mexico now; should we insist they, at least, buy American ladders?I would say that it would be best to build it on land ,why would be build it on their land?Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!
Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.
Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.
So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...
No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.
Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.
There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===
Happy reading ... What do you think?
Rio Grande/Rio Bravo
http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm
Rio Grande - Wikipedia
The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order
1. It's not taking land away if the 12-30 MILLION Mexican Nationals living and working "undocumented/illegally" in the US claim that land for their legal residency.
2. And instead of "just building a wall"
why not build entire city complexes and campus development
for military bases and teaching hospitals, factory jobs and educational and social services:
Earned Amnesty
This can be a WIN WIN situation.
Why not create jobs and work opportunities under a collaborative plan that both immigrant workers/families, businesses and church charities, AND law enforcement/govt would support?
emilynghiem
I have often posted win/win solutions. This particular post is about the location of the wall - Do "you" believe it should be built on American land, land that is owned by American citizens? Or on land owned by Mexico?
1. It's not taking land away if the 12-30 MILLION Mexican Nationals living and working "undocumented/illegally" in the US claim that land for their legal residency.
1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
emilynghiem
Daysahead
Americans own land along the border and along the river.
Americans.
Not Mexicans.
Americans.
The question is, do "you" believe the wall should be built on land owned by America/Americans or on land owned by Mexico/Mexicans?
I posted links outlining some of the issues involved in building on either side.
WE have a Commerce Clause; we need a market friendly visa.We don't need a wall. I said that before. What We really need is people to stop legitimizing illegal immigrants and stop hiring them. Illegals are the new slave class. Empowering illegals is just enslavement, let's get real here.
still all talk and still no action regarding healthcare?i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?It is a matter of priority. First degrees should go, first.
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
What you have is gibberish that you employ to hide your true meaning and intent.
WE have a Commerce Clause; we need a market friendly visa.We don't need a wall. I said that before. What We really need is people to stop legitimizing illegal immigrants and stop hiring them. Illegals are the new slave class. Empowering illegals is just enslavement, let's get real here.
it is about all talk, and no action. anybody can spend, other peoples tax monies. Ask Mr. Trump.still all talk and still no action regarding healthcare?i merely have some clue and some Cause; unlike the right wing. all they have is, nothing but repeal instead of better solutions at lower cost.What do you mean who are first degrees?
Danielpalos is purposefully obtuse for two reasons. 1. he thinks it makes him sound smarter. and 2. to hide his real agenda, which is that he is a loyal Mexican.
What you have is gibberish that you employ to hide your true meaning and intent.
The topic is the Wall.
Though it is good to see you resorting to a standard change of subject instead of your normal gibberish that makes me worry about your mental health.
NO offense meant. Seriously.
You really just have, lousy reading comprehension. A market friendly visa solves our illegal problem on a permanent basis via Capitalism, not socialism. The right wing, prefers socialism, not capitalism.WE have a Commerce Clause; we need a market friendly visa.We don't need a wall. I said that before. What We really need is people to stop legitimizing illegal immigrants and stop hiring them. Illegals are the new slave class. Empowering illegals is just enslavement, let's get real here.
That is a lie of your based on A. your completely refusal to include the NEGATIVE effects of illegal immigration in your cost analysis, and B. your complete loyalty to Mexico and enmity to America.
