Where do you stand?

[Gardener]

i am a big fat moderate

 

[KissMy]

71%
Republicans

70%
Libertarians

71%
Democrats

62%
Green Party

19%
Socialist

 

[Pogo]

I side with Republican the most, but only by 2% points.

I'm a mixed bag.

Very mixed indeed, but at least you lean the right way. I notice that people who lean libertarian/right have a wider range of views.

It's my perception that liberals are less likely to stray from the agenda, although some certainly do. I had a friend from San Fransicko who promoted the moonbat messiah in 2008 by helping to register people. She registered homeless people a lot, which she said sort of bothered her because some of them were clearly out of their minds, but wanted the free sandwiches.

However once she found out obozo voted for infanticide she stopped her support. She was also pro-2A in addition to rabidly pro-life.

Other than those 2 issues she was a complete moonbat.

Interesting, the juxtaposition of "moonbat" after what precedes it...

 

[Pogo]

91%
Republicans

57%
Libertarians

52%
Democrats

24%
Green Party

7%
Socialist

I knew you were a 231-percenter, H.

I couldn't even get a result. Just a blank page that hangs up

Poll has some pretty bogus questions anyway, e.g. "evolution", e.g. no abortion choice for "I'm not female"

Oh well.

 

[Pete7469]

I think it's kind of a dumb survey that is worded and framed from the pov of today's right-wingers.

Like, if I support repealing the ban on travel and trade with Cuba, why is that a liberal or libertarian issue? That's just a common sense issue, no matter who you vote for. Trade is good for business and we're no longer living in the 50's.

Same with the science questions. The correct answer is the Theory of Evolution and the other correct answer is that Global Warming is indeed a problem. Those are not political issues anywhere except in the minds of stupid people who willingly decide to ignore reality.

It's not a political issue to have Medicare. Poverty among our seniors was totally wiped out because of that program. I put that it should be reformed, because it does need reforms, but I'm not a leftist for saying that the program is actually effective.

Medicare is actually way better business sense for all of us. Is it better that a few of your tax dollars helps to go to make sure seniors can be taken care of or is it better for an uninsured senior who has incurred a $10 million debt for us to have to settle?

If you answered that we should go all private instead of having Medicare, what you're actually saying is that we should pay 100 times more to cover the debts that ill seniors leave us than preventing that debt by having just a few of our dollars go to taking care of them within a system that is much more affordable to us all.

Obamacare is a right-wing plan. It's a hybrid of Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. It's pro-business in almost every aspect and keeps the system private. When I used to vote Republican, part of it was on the basis of self responsibility. You must have insurance. But the minute the black guy took power and passed it, Republicans treated me like I was an idiot for supporting what I've always supported. If you voted that you agree with Obamacare, that does not make you a leftist.

If you voted for more offshore drilling, than you're actually voting for more taxpayer money to have to pay for the fact that they don't have the means necessary to plug leaks deeper and deeper out in the ocean. That's totally inefficient. A rational conservative-minded person would tell you that it's better for business if BP had adhered to a very basic set of rules. Would have prevented that spill. Would have saved BP money. Would have saved taxpayer money for having to help all those unemployed people out that BP wasn't able to take care of.

It says I agree with Democrats 81% of the time.

Libertarians 66% of the time.

Greens 60%.

Republicans 18%, though it says "no major issues", which is sad, because a lot of the issues I voted for I find are perfectly rational, conservative-minded issues.

This survey shows just how ridiculously far to the right the right has moved to in recent years in this country that a rather centrist to conservative position on a number of things scores as liberal now.

Weird.

Normalization with Cuba is opposed almost singly by Repubs. Especially the Miami Cuban caucus of the Rep party..

Global Warming has been ridden to Death by the left. Using it as a convienient vehicle for control of energy policy and as a potential income enhancer for the govt. The EPA subverts science by declaring CO2 a pollutant. Some thinking people are alarmed by that.

Funny how liberals consider things they believe in to be "common sense", and to argue with them is to "ignore reality". Yet when you present actual factual evidence to the contrary you get inane responses about "biased studies" or "racism".

Medicare is wrought with waste and abuse, it shouldn't exist at all. If anything the only role the gov't should play is allowing private enterprise to administer it and ensure the charity that funds it is used efficiently. It's a sacrament to the left of course, so it's a conservative goal to get rid of it entirely and replace it with an efficient system. It won't cost any more at all, because no one will be stealing from your paycheck to fund it.

Dole and Romney are "right wingers" now? Too bad the rest of us know better. They're statists, and enough republican know it. That's why they lost the election. If you voted for the moonbat messiah to keep obozocare in place, you almost certainly have to be a leftist but there's no question that you're vapid.

A conservative wants drilling anywhere it's economically feasible and won't cause harm to human inhabitants. Moonabts are more concerned with bettles and spiders, so they've forced oil companies out deeper into the ocean.

I really don't know why I'm bothering to argue though because like I said the only response I will get is an inane rant.

 

[Pogo]

I think it's kind of a dumb survey that is worded and framed from the pov of today's right-wingers.

Like, if I support repealing the ban on travel and trade with Cuba, why is that a liberal or libertarian issue? That's just a common sense issue, no matter who you vote for. Trade is good for business and we're no longer living in the 50's.

Same with the science questions. The correct answer is the Theory of Evolution and the other correct answer is that Global Warming is indeed a problem. Those are not political issues anywhere except in the minds of stupid people who willingly decide to ignore reality.

It's not a political issue to have Medicare. Poverty among our seniors was totally wiped out because of that program. I put that it should be reformed, because it does need reforms, but I'm not a leftist for saying that the program is actually effective.

Medicare is actually way better business sense for all of us. Is it better that a few of your tax dollars helps to go to make sure seniors can be taken care of or is it better for an uninsured senior who has incurred a $10 million debt for us to have to settle?

If you answered that we should go all private instead of having Medicare, what you're actually saying is that we should pay 100 times more to cover the debts that ill seniors leave us than preventing that debt by having just a few of our dollars go to taking care of them within a system that is much more affordable to us all.

Obamacare is a right-wing plan. It's a hybrid of Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. It's pro-business in almost every aspect and keeps the system private. When I used to vote Republican, part of it was on the basis of self responsibility. You must have insurance. But the minute the black guy took power and passed it, Republicans treated me like I was an idiot for supporting what I've always supported. If you voted that you agree with Obamacare, that does not make you a leftist.

If you voted for more offshore drilling, than you're actually voting for more taxpayer money to have to pay for the fact that they don't have the means necessary to plug leaks deeper and deeper out in the ocean. That's totally inefficient. A rational conservative-minded person would tell you that it's better for business if BP had adhered to a very basic set of rules. Would have prevented that spill. Would have saved BP money. Would have saved taxpayer money for having to help all those unemployed people out that BP wasn't able to take care of.

It says I agree with Democrats 81% of the time.

Libertarians 66% of the time.

Greens 60%.

Republicans 18%, though it says "no major issues", which is sad, because a lot of the issues I voted for I find are perfectly rational, conservative-minded issues.

This survey shows just how ridiculously far to the right the right has moved to in recent years in this country that a rather centrist to conservative position on a number of things scores as liberal now.

Weird.

Normalization with Cuba is opposed almost singly by Repubs. Especially the Miami Cuban caucus of the Rep party..

Global Warming has been ridden to Death by the left. Using it as a convienient vehicle for control of energy policy and as a potential income enhancer for the govt. The EPA subverts science by declaring CO2 a pollutant. Some thinking people are alarmed by that.

There was at least one common-sense answer for that one though, it went something like "Regardless (whether it's man made or not), we should clean up". That's what I checked --there's just no argument against it.

Suppose your town was dumping its tires in the Freeflow River, then somebody comes up with evidence that these tires are leeching the toxin Vulcanium into the water supply; then somebody else comes up with evidence that maybe that's not true -- do you just go on dumping tires in the river? I mean, duh...

 

[Pogo]

I think it's kind of a dumb survey that is worded and framed from the pov of today's right-wingers.

Like, if I support repealing the ban on travel and trade with Cuba, why is that a liberal or libertarian issue? That's just a common sense issue, no matter who you vote for. Trade is good for business and we're no longer living in the 50's.

Same with the science questions. The correct answer is the Theory of Evolution and the other correct answer is that Global Warming is indeed a problem. Those are not political issues anywhere except in the minds of stupid people who willingly decide to ignore reality.

It's not a political issue to have Medicare. Poverty among our seniors was totally wiped out because of that program. I put that it should be reformed, because it does need reforms, but I'm not a leftist for saying that the program is actually effective.

Medicare is actually way better business sense for all of us. Is it better that a few of your tax dollars helps to go to make sure seniors can be taken care of or is it better for an uninsured senior who has incurred a $10 million debt for us to have to settle?

If you answered that we should go all private instead of having Medicare, what you're actually saying is that we should pay 100 times more to cover the debts that ill seniors leave us than preventing that debt by having just a few of our dollars go to taking care of them within a system that is much more affordable to us all.

Obamacare is a right-wing plan. It's a hybrid of Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. It's pro-business in almost every aspect and keeps the system private. When I used to vote Republican, part of it was on the basis of self responsibility. You must have insurance. But the minute the black guy took power and passed it, Republicans treated me like I was an idiot for supporting what I've always supported. If you voted that you agree with Obamacare, that does not make you a leftist.

If you voted for more offshore drilling, than you're actually voting for more taxpayer money to have to pay for the fact that they don't have the means necessary to plug leaks deeper and deeper out in the ocean. That's totally inefficient. A rational conservative-minded person would tell you that it's better for business if BP had adhered to a very basic set of rules. Would have prevented that spill. Would have saved BP money. Would have saved taxpayer money for having to help all those unemployed people out that BP wasn't able to take care of.

It says I agree with Democrats 81% of the time.

Libertarians 66% of the time.

Greens 60%.

Republicans 18%, though it says "no major issues", which is sad, because a lot of the issues I voted for I find are perfectly rational, conservative-minded issues.

This survey shows just how ridiculously far to the right the right has moved to in recent years in this country that a rather centrist to conservative position on a number of things scores as liberal now.

Weird.

I agree 100% with this post.

RE offshore drilling: it's really not a political issue anyway. The government doesn't drill; oil companies drill. And they do so for the international market and their own profit margin, not for us. But I don't recall seeing that answer choice either so I just voted "no".

 

[flacaltenn]

That's a fascinating take on it. I still think the embargo should end. I'm half Cuban and my grandmother hasn't spoken to her relatives there in over 50 years. All for foolish pride.

What would be the fruits of a lifted embargo? I could speculate, but I'd appreciate your perspective on this notion.

I imagine the fruits would be small right now. But over time they could become very important. They've been our enemies for decades. A few years back everyone was talking about "winning the hearts and minds" of our enemies. Shutting them out and closing dialogue is a COLOSSAL failure of foreign policy on the part of America.

Cuba should be booming right now. They'd be a top destination for everyone in this country. They're the closest tropical Caribbean island to us in the world.

We can SEE THEM from Key West. Why haven't we handled that problem in all these years?

Leftists here seem to admire their healthcare system.. Perhaps we could ship lefty seniors down there and outsource their care... They'll be happy to accept the new reduced doctor reimbursements...

 

[flacaltenn]

I think it's kind of a dumb survey that is worded and framed from the pov of today's right-wingers.

Like, if I support repealing the ban on travel and trade with Cuba, why is that a liberal or libertarian issue? That's just a common sense issue, no matter who you vote for. Trade is good for business and we're no longer living in the 50's.

Same with the science questions. The correct answer is the Theory of Evolution and the other correct answer is that Global Warming is indeed a problem. Those are not political issues anywhere except in the minds of stupid people who willingly decide to ignore reality.

It's not a political issue to have Medicare. Poverty among our seniors was totally wiped out because of that program. I put that it should be reformed, because it does need reforms, but I'm not a leftist for saying that the program is actually effective.

Medicare is actually way better business sense for all of us. Is it better that a few of your tax dollars helps to go to make sure seniors can be taken care of or is it better for an uninsured senior who has incurred a $10 million debt for us to have to settle?

If you answered that we should go all private instead of having Medicare, what you're actually saying is that we should pay 100 times more to cover the debts that ill seniors leave us than preventing that debt by having just a few of our dollars go to taking care of them within a system that is much more affordable to us all.

Obamacare is a right-wing plan. It's a hybrid of Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. It's pro-business in almost every aspect and keeps the system private. When I used to vote Republican, part of it was on the basis of self responsibility. You must have insurance. But the minute the black guy took power and passed it, Republicans treated me like I was an idiot for supporting what I've always supported. If you voted that you agree with Obamacare, that does not make you a leftist.

If you voted for more offshore drilling, than you're actually voting for more taxpayer money to have to pay for the fact that they don't have the means necessary to plug leaks deeper and deeper out in the ocean. That's totally inefficient. A rational conservative-minded person would tell you that it's better for business if BP had adhered to a very basic set of rules. Would have prevented that spill. Would have saved BP money. Would have saved taxpayer money for having to help all those unemployed people out that BP wasn't able to take care of.

It says I agree with Democrats 81% of the time.

Libertarians 66% of the time.

Greens 60%.

Republicans 18%, though it says "no major issues", which is sad, because a lot of the issues I voted for I find are perfectly rational, conservative-minded issues.

This survey shows just how ridiculously far to the right the right has moved to in recent years in this country that a rather centrist to conservative position on a number of things scores as liberal now.

Weird.

Normalization with Cuba is opposed almost singly by Repubs. Especially the Miami Cuban caucus of the Rep party..

Global Warming has been ridden to Death by the left. Using it as a convienient vehicle for control of energy policy and as a potential income enhancer for the govt. The EPA subverts science by declaring CO2 a pollutant. Some thinking people are alarmed by that.

Funny how liberals consider things they believe in to be "common sense", and to argue with them is to "ignore reality". Yet when you present actual factual evidence to the contrary you get inane responses about "biased studies" or "racism".

Medicare is wrought with waste and abuse, it shouldn't exist at all. If anything the only role the gov't should play is allowing private enterprise to administer it and ensure the charity that funds it is used efficiently. It's a sacrament to the left of course, so it's a conservative goal to get rid of it entirely and replace it with an efficient system. It won't cost any more at all, because no one will be stealing from your paycheck to fund it.

Dole and Romney are "right wingers" now? Too bad the rest of us know better. They're statists, and enough republican know it. That's why they lost the election. If you voted for the moonbat messiah to keep obozocare in place, you almost certainly have to be a leftist but there's no question that you're vapid.

A conservative wants drilling anywhere it's economically feasible and won't cause harm to human inhabitants. Moonabts are more concerned with bettles and spiders, so they've forced oil companies out deeper into the ocean.

I really don't know why I'm bothering to argue though because like I said the only response I will get is an inane rant.

RE: Romney and Dole being "right-wingers".. Would be great if polls like this got the politicians to take them.. If it showed the massive diffs between the party wings --- it would have pretty good cred in my book.. Pols shouldn't really object as long as their INDIVIDUAL answers are kept "off-record"...

 

[flacaltenn]

84% green party and 79% libertarian

And here I thought I didn't like either. Must research!

I'm thinking the Green Party helped develop the poll...

It's painful to read their platform.. More painful to see the candidates they pick.. BUT -- they do have principles and they work to overcome the election laws..

 

[asterism]

I think it's kind of a dumb survey that is worded and framed from the pov of today's right-wingers.

Like, if I support repealing the ban on travel and trade with Cuba, why is that a liberal or libertarian issue? That's just a common sense issue, no matter who you vote for. Trade is good for business and we're no longer living in the 50's.

Same with the science questions. The correct answer is the Theory of Evolution and the other correct answer is that Global Warming is indeed a problem. Those are not political issues anywhere except in the minds of stupid people who willingly decide to ignore reality.

It's not a political issue to have Medicare. Poverty among our seniors was totally wiped out because of that program. I put that it should be reformed, because it does need reforms, but I'm not a leftist for saying that the program is actually effective.

Medicare is actually way better business sense for all of us. Is it better that a few of your tax dollars helps to go to make sure seniors can be taken care of or is it better for an uninsured senior who has incurred a $10 million debt for us to have to settle?

If you answered that we should go all private instead of having Medicare, what you're actually saying is that we should pay 100 times more to cover the debts that ill seniors leave us than preventing that debt by having just a few of our dollars go to taking care of them within a system that is much more affordable to us all.

Obamacare is a right-wing plan. It's a hybrid of Bob Dole and Mitt Romney's plan. It's pro-business in almost every aspect and keeps the system private. When I used to vote Republican, part of it was on the basis of self responsibility. You must have insurance. But the minute the black guy took power and passed it, Republicans treated me like I was an idiot for supporting what I've always supported. If you voted that you agree with Obamacare, that does not make you a leftist.

If you voted for more offshore drilling, than you're actually voting for more taxpayer money to have to pay for the fact that they don't have the means necessary to plug leaks deeper and deeper out in the ocean. That's totally inefficient. A rational conservative-minded person would tell you that it's better for business if BP had adhered to a very basic set of rules. Would have prevented that spill. Would have saved BP money. Would have saved taxpayer money for having to help all those unemployed people out that BP wasn't able to take care of.

It says I agree with Democrats 81% of the time.

Libertarians 66% of the time.

Greens 60%.

Republicans 18%, though it says "no major issues", which is sad, because a lot of the issues I voted for I find are perfectly rational, conservative-minded issues.

This survey shows just how ridiculously far to the right the right has moved to in recent years in this country that a rather centrist to conservative position on a number of things scores as liberal now.

Weird.

Normalization with Cuba is opposed almost singly by Repubs. Especially the Miami Cuban caucus of the Rep party..

Global Warming has been ridden to Death by the left. Using it as a convienient vehicle for control of energy policy and as a potential income enhancer for the govt. The EPA subverts science by declaring CO2 a pollutant. Some thinking people are alarmed by that.

There was at least one common-sense answer for that one though, it went something like "Regardless (whether it's man made or not), we should clean up". That's what I checked --there's just no argument against it.

Suppose your town was dumping its tires in the Freeflow River, then somebody comes up with evidence that these tires are leeching the toxin Vulcanium into the water supply; then somebody else comes up with evidence that maybe that's not true -- do you just go on dumping tires in the river? I mean, duh...

Do you consider that a good analogy for carbon dioxide? If so, why are you still breathing? Every breath means you're damaging the environment if you believe carbon dioxide is causing global warming.

 

[Pogo]

Normalization with Cuba is opposed almost singly by Repubs. Especially the Miami Cuban caucus of the Rep party..

Global Warming has been ridden to Death by the left. Using it as a convienient vehicle for control of energy policy and as a potential income enhancer for the govt. The EPA subverts science by declaring CO2 a pollutant. Some thinking people are alarmed by that.

There was at least one common-sense answer for that one though, it went something like "Regardless (whether it's man made or not), we should clean up". That's what I checked --there's just no argument against it.

Suppose your town was dumping its tires in the Freeflow River, then somebody comes up with evidence that these tires are leeching the toxin Vulcanium into the water supply; then somebody else comes up with evidence that maybe that's not true -- do you just go on dumping tires in the river? I mean, duh...

Do you consider that a good analogy for carbon dioxide? If so, why are you still breathing? Every breath means you're damaging the environment if you believe carbon dioxide is causing global warming.

No. It doesn't. Although I like the way your strawman doesn't exhale any.

 

[Avatar4321]

97% Republican.

73% Libertarian

I wasnt a fan of the questions. Some were ambiguous. Some were really two questions in one. For example:

Do you support the use of unmanned drones to obtain intelligence and kill terrorists in foreign countries?

I certainly have no problem with using it to obtain intelligence, but killing people, even terrorists, is a much more complicated question. What country? Are they citizens? Does the foreign government approve of us killing people in their country? Will this create an international incident? Will it start war with that nation?

It's infinitely more complex than a yes or no.

 

[Luissa]

That last one, don't tell anyone.

 

[Pogo]

Tried again to take the poll, again got a blank page. Made some notes on flaws though:

"Should the federal government continue to give tax credits and subsidies to the wind power industry?"
-- fails to mention the Fed already gives credits and subsidies to oil, nuke, etc., which makes wind sound somehow like an isolated case...

"Do you agree with President Obama's 2009 Stimulus Plan?"
-- too broad-- what part of the plan?

"Should marijuana be legalized in the U.S.?"
-- one answer reads: "Yes, and immediately free all citizens jailed for drug offenses" ... it goes from "Marijuana" specifically to "all citizens jailed for drug offenses"

"Do you support the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)?"
--- once again, too broad; and includes conflicting answer choices:
"No, institute a universal healthcare system" and
"Yes, institute a mandatory single payer system"

So which is it? Yes or no? Where's the public option Joe Liebermann and his conflics of interests made sure we didn't get? (Actually it's in the Medicare question instead of the ACA question. Weird.)

 

[TheOldSchool]

What would be the fruits of a lifted embargo? I could speculate, but I'd appreciate your perspective on this notion.

I imagine the fruits would be small right now. But over time they could become very important. They've been our enemies for decades. A few years back everyone was talking about "winning the hearts and minds" of our enemies. Shutting them out and closing dialogue is a COLOSSAL failure of foreign policy on the part of America.

Cuba should be booming right now. They'd be a top destination for everyone in this country. They're the closest tropical Caribbean island to us in the world.

We can SEE THEM from Key West. Why haven't we handled that problem in all these years?

Leftists here seem to admire their healthcare system.. Perhaps we could ship lefty seniors down there and outsource their care... They'll be happy to accept the new reduced doctor reimbursements...

I think only really crazy liberals like the Cuban health care system. At least I like to think so...

 

[Montrovant]

I agree that the questions are ambiguous at best. Still, these things are really just for fun anyway.

Green - 80%
Democrat - 80%
Libertarian - 79%
Socialist - 46%
Republican - 41%

I sided with :

Gary Johnson - 97%
Jill Stein - 84%
Rocky Anderson - 71%
Barack Obama - 59%
Mitt Romney - 53%
Virgil Goode - 46%

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I side 91% with Republicans

In case that didn't work.

91 republican 37 Libertarian 33 democrat 5 green

Science I side with the green party and foreign policy I side with libertarians/greens

 

[Mr. H.]

That's a fascinating take on it. I still think the embargo should end. I'm half Cuban and my grandmother hasn't spoken to her relatives there in over 50 years. All for foolish pride.

What would be the fruits of a lifted embargo? I could speculate, but I'd appreciate your perspective on this notion.

I imagine the fruits would be small right now. But over time they could become very important. They've been our enemies for decades. A few years back everyone was talking about "winning the hearts and minds" of our enemies. Shutting them out and closing dialogue is a COLOSSAL failure of foreign policy on the part of America.

Cuba should be booming right now. They'd be a top destination for everyone in this country. They're the closest tropical Caribbean island to us in the world.

We can SEE THEM from Key West. Why haven't we handled that problem in all these years?

I am the historic preservationist for our city. Not a real big deal- we're a 20k population WHEN the university is in session.

But anyway- I am very cautious about the dilution of culture in Cuba, should the embargo be lifted.

I'm also in Marketing and Public Relations by profession, and I've seen the deleterious effects of both. That said, I believe that an onslaught of free-trade and free-market policies could have the potential to absolutely ruin the culture of Cuba.

As I've said, Cuba is frozen in time. And in so many ways that is a good thing. Preserving the character of a culture while opening it up to the onslaught of marketing and public relations could be ruinous to that very culture.

 

[flacaltenn]

What would be the fruits of a lifted embargo? I could speculate, but I'd appreciate your perspective on this notion.

I imagine the fruits would be small right now. But over time they could become very important. They've been our enemies for decades. A few years back everyone was talking about "winning the hearts and minds" of our enemies. Shutting them out and closing dialogue is a COLOSSAL failure of foreign policy on the part of America.

Cuba should be booming right now. They'd be a top destination for everyone in this country. They're the closest tropical Caribbean island to us in the world.

We can SEE THEM from Key West. Why haven't we handled that problem in all these years?

I am the historic preservationist for our city. Not a real big deal- we're a 20k population WHEN the university is in session.

But anyway- I am very cautious about the dilution of culture in Cuba, should the embargo be lifted.

I'm also in Marketing and Public Relations by profession, and I've seen the deleterious effects of both. That said, I believe that an onslaught of free-trade and free-market policies could have the potential to absolutely ruin the culture of Cuba.

As I've said, Cuba is frozen in time. And in so many ways that is a good thing. Preserving the character of a culture while opening it up to the onslaught of marketing and public relations could be ruinous to that very culture.

Then could we at least trade vintage car parts for cigars and rum.. That wouldn't be a violatation of StarFleet Prime Directive would it Captain??