where are the starving american children ?

[hortysir]

They are those "off brand" Cheetos, but yes, you could buy apples or oranges instead. Here they are 79 cents each, what are they in FLA now?

We don't pay for oranges, in FL.
We make ya'll do that

 

[Nonelitist]

We've got some of the fattest starving people on earth.

I don't see any kids starving and I live in a town with a huge number of very poor people.

What, exactly, do you think they look like?

A large part of the problem in the US is we have a large population of homeless children. Those kids are completely off the radar, and are typically teens so you don't notice them.

Those kids are hungry. And there are no shelters outside of the big cities.

Again... there are charities and programs all over the country that help people to eat. If children have parents and those kids are hungry... that is the fault of the parents... not mine as I sit here making a living and taking care of my family.

You libs sure are some guilt bearing attention getting whores aren't you?

You just care more than anyone you fake as shit hypocrites

 

[JBeukema]

In the U.S. hunger and race are related. In 1991 46% of African-American children were chronically hungry, and 40% of Latino children were chronically hungry compared to 16% of white children.

So, basically you're saying that 19 years ago nearly half of blacks and mexicans didn't feed their children?

The infant mortality rate is closely linked to inadequate nutrition among pregnant women. The U.S. ranks 23rd among industrial nations in infant mortality. African-American infants die at nearly twice the rate of white infants."

The world hunger problem: Facts, figures and statistics

Maybe if they stopped selling the food stamps to buy crack and instead used the foodstamps to buy, you know, food, they wouldn't have that problem. There is plenty of assistance available form both government and private agencies in any real city. Only those in the most ass backwards parts of the Appalachians or hiding from the law in Death Valley or some equally desolate place can honestly say there's noplace to go to get food and other assistance.


Hell, in Norcal I couldn't keep track of the homeless crack-smoking blacks. You know why? Because they got 2-3 meals a day and free clothing and anything else they wanted, there was a market nearby where they could sell their foodstamps, and they weren't required to take drug tests, prove they were seeking work- or do anything, really.

Handouts solve nothing. They make the problem worse.

If they're not taking care of their children, take the children from them and place them in foster care while the parent goes to prison for child neglect, child endangerment, and child abuse.
Then there's deliberate starvation of children (you know, those damn kids should get out and feed themselves!)

"Results. Of the 12 cases reviewed, the median age was 2.7 years, with a range of 2.25 months to 13 years 7 months. Half of the children died shortly before or soon after presentation for medical care or to law enforcement.

If they're neglecting or abusing the child at home, that's not a problem of lack of resource. It's a problem of sadistic parents. More handouts isn't the solution. It's encouraging people to report such abuse so the parents can go to a supermax prison while the child is cared for.


Notice that your link says it was a criminal case? That's because it's due to malice. THEY ARE NOT STARVING DUE TO ANY LACK OF AVAILABLE ASSISTANCE

 

[JBeukema]

Substance abusers often starve themselves and their children. But I guess that's a matter for another discussion.

And that's not a problem of lack of resources or a problem more handouts will solve. More handouts will only make it worse.

 

[JBeukema]

Also, the "fatty" foods are a lot cheaper to buy than than fruits and vegetables, and lean cuts of meats. The kids are eating pork rinds and hot cheetos and Little Debbies, with a orange soda as thier drink.

cheetos are expensive, very expensive, you could buy oranges for the price of a bag of cheetos.

They are those "off brand" Cheetos, but yes, you could buy apples or oranges instead. Here they are 79 cents each, what are they in FLA now?

79 cents for an apple? I live in the friggin' desert and pay less than that for a Granny Smith (the best damned apple in the world and the only kind I ever buy) at the GAS STATION. If I go to the, you know, the food store, I can pay 3-4 bucks for ~7 ORGANIC apples.

How the hell are they 79 in florida?

Then we've got potatos for starches and big cuts of meat for protein.

Crockpot. If you're on a budget, invest in a crockpot.

 

[JBeukema]

Also, the "fatty" foods are a lot cheaper to buy than than fruits and vegetables, and lean cuts of meats. The kids are eating pork rinds and hot cheetos and Little Debbies, with a orange soda as thier drink.

cheetos are expensive, very expensive, you could buy oranges for the price of a bag of cheetos.

I think Cheetos was just an example. My opinion is that people who more often make those types of choices are simply uneducated, which usually goes hand in hand with being poor. Children usually like what their children like, so if uneducated mom loves cokes and cheetos well of course thats what junior is going to like and so on and so forth.

Ya dun need no big teim educashun 2 no dat froots is gud4 ya and kandie aint

 

[ConHog]

We've got some of the fattest starving people on earth.

I don't see any kids starving and I live in a town with a huge number of very poor people.

What, exactly, do you think they look like?

A large part of the problem in the US is we have a large population of homeless children. Those kids are completely off the radar, and are typically teens so you don't notice them.

Those kids are hungry. And there are no shelters outside of the big cities.

Again... there are charities and programs all over the country that help people to eat. If children have parents and those kids are hungry... that is the fault of the parents... not mine as I sit here making a living and taking care of my family.

You libs sure are some guilt bearing attention getting whores aren't you?

You just care more than anyone you fake as shit hypocrites

Umm. I am not a liberal. I am a conservative , but how about having some compassion for fuck's sake? You know we have children in our own school who get themselves up in the morning, and get their selves to school everyday, and if they don't eat at school, they don't eat? I guess you just say fuck those kids for being poor?

 

[JBeukema]

I congratulate you for your work

I don't think there are many American children starving from lack of food. The children who are hungry are hungry because of parental neglect. Its good for the schools to offer a stopgap to ensuring the kids have proper nutrition, but we really need to go after the marginal parents

Yes, maybe "starving" was the wrong choice of word, how about, "Very, very hungry."
Have you ever watched a kid tear into his food like it's the first time he/she has eaten? They are to leave anything they don't eat on a tray, but often I find food that they've snuck out of the lunchroom in their bookbags. And I'm always sending them home with food, and I provide a snack at 11 everyday too.

And you're right, a lot of these parents need to learn how to shop for healthy foods.

I agree with you. With many parents it is indifference over how their children eat. But I suspect a lot of it is a lack of education. Cooking and shopping skills used to define the lower classes. The ability to take inexpensive foods and make healthy filling meals.
I think today if you gave every American family a free 20 lb bag of flour, most would throw it out....they would have no idea what to do with it.

I'd go to the public library and ask for cookbook....

 

[Nonelitist]

What, exactly, do you think they look like?

A large part of the problem in the US is we have a large population of homeless children. Those kids are completely off the radar, and are typically teens so you don't notice them.

Those kids are hungry. And there are no shelters outside of the big cities.

Again... there are charities and programs all over the country that help people to eat. If children have parents and those kids are hungry... that is the fault of the parents... not mine as I sit here making a living and taking care of my family.

You libs sure are some guilt bearing attention getting whores aren't you?

You just care more than anyone you fake as shit hypocrites

Umm. I am not a liberal. I am a conservative , but how about having some compassion for fuck's sake? You know we have children in our own school who get themselves up in the morning, and get their selves to school everyday, and if they don't eat at school, they don't eat? I guess you just say fuck those kids for being poor?

How can I help them? I will tell you how.... I pay fricken taxes out the wazzoo for programs that feed them. If their parents don't take advantage of that... that is their fault. There is nothing else that I can do.

Keep the guilt to yourself... I don't deserve any of it.

 

[JBeukema]

Some Statistics on Poverty in America

Yes, poverty is a reality in America, just as it is for millions of other human beings on the planet. According to the US Census Bureau, 35.9 million people live below the poverty line in America, including 12.9 million children.

'Islamic Information and Products' ?

 

[JBeukema]

I agree with you. With many parents it is indifference over how their children eat. But I suspect a lot of it is a lack of education. Cooking and shopping skills used to define the lower classes. The ability to take inexpensive foods and make healthy filling meals.
I think today if you gave every American family a free 20 lb bag of flour, most would throw it out....they would have no idea what to do with it.

Very true, but I THINK attitudes are changing, at least in my area. Our school offers an extended version of what we used to call home ec, which consists of 6 classes which teach everything from shopping to preparing meals to nutrition etc etc, and it's very encouraging to see that they have become so popular that we're going to have to offer most of them twice a day next school year. Kids are wanting to learn to cook. Honestly , I give some credit here to that evil television and the Food Network.

It makes sense to teach cooking. Many kids don't learn those skills at home. My son was a Boy Scout and every boy in the troop learned how to shop for food and prepare meals for the entire troop. Its a skill they carry through life.
I also think they need to stress the "economics" of home economics. How to make a family budget, balance a checkbook, prioritize your expenditures, get a car loan, sign a rental agreement. many Americans are clueless when it comes to managing their finances

Anyone else think it's sad that the State has to do the parents' fucking job?

 

[JBeukema]

Home ec classes were among the first to be cut when liberals started looking for classes to cut so they could keep all the unions happy.

wait... liberals love big nanny states and the first thing they cut if a program designed to do the parents' job and make the State the kids' new parental figure?


Will you people make up your fucking minds?

 

[ConHog]

Again... there are charities and programs all over the country that help people to eat. If children have parents and those kids are hungry... that is the fault of the parents... not mine as I sit here making a living and taking care of my family.

You libs sure are some guilt bearing attention getting whores aren't you?

You just care more than anyone you fake as shit hypocrites

Umm. I am not a liberal. I am a conservative , but how about having some compassion for fuck's sake? You know we have children in our own school who get themselves up in the morning, and get their selves to school everyday, and if they don't eat at school, they don't eat? I guess you just say fuck those kids for being poor?

How can I help them? I will tell you how.... I pay fricken taxes out the wazzoo for programs that feed them. If their parents don't take advantage of that... that is their fault. There is nothing else that I can do.

Keep the guilt to yourself... I don't deserve any of it.

You are correct, one of those programs is reduced price and free meals for those who can't afford it. So what exactly are you bitching about?

 

[JBeukema]

We've got some of the fattest starving people on earth.

I don't see any kids starving and I live in a town with a huge number of very poor people.

What, exactly, do you think they look like?

A large part of the problem in the US is we have a large population of homeless children. Those kids are completely off the radar, and are typically teens so you don't notice them.

Those kids are hungry. And there are no shelters outside of the big cities.

I was a homeless teen and I knew many others, including many who walked, trainhopped, and hitched around the country.

I rarely got asked where to get food- and the answer was
pretty much pointing them towards the nearest church or downtown. I got asked where to get weed a lot more often and that, not hunger, was usually the biggest concern.

 

[ConHog]

Very true, but I THINK attitudes are changing, at least in my area. Our school offers an extended version of what we used to call home ec, which consists of 6 classes which teach everything from shopping to preparing meals to nutrition etc etc, and it's very encouraging to see that they have become so popular that we're going to have to offer most of them twice a day next school year. Kids are wanting to learn to cook. Honestly , I give some credit here to that evil television and the Food Network.

It makes sense to teach cooking. Many kids don't learn those skills at home. My son was a Boy Scout and every boy in the troop learned how to shop for food and prepare meals for the entire troop. Its a skill they carry through life.
I also think they need to stress the "economics" of home economics. How to make a family budget, balance a checkbook, prioritize your expenditures, get a car loan, sign a rental agreement. many Americans are clueless when it comes to managing their finances

Anyone else think it's sad that the State has to do the parents' fucking job?

You do realize that you could make that argument about ANY school subject right? What makes it a school's job to teach your child to be physically fit? Play a clarinet? Catch a football? Do algebra? Etc Etc Etc?

 

[chanel]

For many years I served as a teacher/mentor at my school. We would provide pizza, soda, ice cream sundaes etc. And the kids would eat like they hadn't eaten in months. I realized that most of the kids in the program were obese and started buying fruit and water and planned physical activities like nature walks and kickball. Each month the group got smaller until we disbanded last year. They only joined for the junk. Sad.

 

[JBeukema]

For many years I served as a teacher/mentor at my school. We would provide pizza, soda, ice cream sundaes etc.

What were we just talking about

And the kids would eat like they hadn't eaten in months.

As do I when it comes to Red Vines. I have no self-control when it comes to Red Vines. Or beef Jerkey.

I realized that most of the kids in the program were obese and started buying fruit and water and planned physical activities like nature walks and kickball. Each month the group got smaller until we disbanded last year. They only joined for the junk. Sad.

Guess they weren't hungry after all, were they? Otherwiser they'd have eaten the food and not just the candy and icecream.

 

[chanel]

Exactly. I knew they weren't that hungry but I guess they didn't get that stuff at home. I actually caught several kids putting sodas in their backpacks. The program itself was pretty successful, but I don't believe in bribing kids with junk. They may get other teachers to start it up again, but there's no money. Pizza for 40 kids can get expensive.

 

[ConHog]

For many years I served as a teacher/mentor at my school. We would provide pizza, soda, ice cream sundaes etc.

What were we just talking about

And the kids would eat like they hadn't eaten in months.

As do I when it comes to Red Vines. I have no self-control when it comes to Red Vines. Or beef Jerkey.

I realized that most of the kids in the program were obese and started buying fruit and water and planned physical activities like nature walks and kickball. Each month the group got smaller until we disbanded last year. They only joined for the junk. Sad.

Guess they weren't hungry after all, were they? Otherwiser they'd have eaten the food and not just the candy and icecream.

As I said, I have experienced exactly the opposite. We have a small group of children who come to our church who live in a trailer park. Occasionally we have them over for swimming parties and proved healthy food. Some of those poor kids act as if they've never eaten. Sure they love the ice cream and stuff we have to, but they eat the "real food" as well.

Ugh - sadly to we have to fill our jacuzzi full of bubble bath and encourage many of them to get in so they get their bath. It's so sad.

How ANYONE could complain about feeding children is beyond me.

 

[rightwinger]

Very true, but I THINK attitudes are changing, at least in my area. Our school offers an extended version of what we used to call home ec, which consists of 6 classes which teach everything from shopping to preparing meals to nutrition etc etc, and it's very encouraging to see that they have become so popular that we're going to have to offer most of them twice a day next school year. Kids are wanting to learn to cook. Honestly , I give some credit here to that evil television and the Food Network.

It makes sense to teach cooking. Many kids don't learn those skills at home. My son was a Boy Scout and every boy in the troop learned how to shop for food and prepare meals for the entire troop. Its a skill they carry through life.
I also think they need to stress the "economics" of home economics. How to make a family budget, balance a checkbook, prioritize your expenditures, get a car loan, sign a rental agreement. many Americans are clueless when it comes to managing their finances

Anyone else think it's sad that the State has to do the parents' fucking job?

Many of the parents have no idea how to handle personal finance...that is why they are in the situation they are in. We are talking about people whose retirement plan is to win the lottery, who don't have a checking account, rely on payday loans and rent to own.

We need to do a better job