CDZ When was America at its Greatest?

[petro]

June 22, 1978, at precisely 1:32 in the afternoon.

That WAS an awesome minute.

 

[TheParser]

I would have to choose the 1950s, when I was a teenager.

Of course, things were far from perfect.

But if you look at "I Love Lucy," you get some idea of a more innocent time.

There was no social media type of frenzy.

It was a time when most Americans had good-paying jobs, we had an avuncular president (and war hero), the new highway system was a-building, and people did NOT fixate on crime.

 

[Toro]

June 22, 1978, at precisely 1:32 in the afternoon.

Your first encounter with that priest?

That’s when I lost my virginity. Best 30 seconds she ever had!

 

[sparky]

When was America at its Greatest?

 

[rightwinger]

I really owe Ron Howard for this one.

So what era of America do we want to go back to?

-The late 90's with the balanced budget?

~2010 with the dream of everyone paying for healthcare?

-1953?

-1970 The music was pretty good and besides the spat of assassinations there was hope of change.

-1859?

-1988 did feel pretty good if you ignored some corruption, terrorism failures and debt. We were winning the cold war.

WWII

We saved the world

 

[rightwinger]

I would say 1968. Haight/Asbury hippy children of the kids of survivors of the depression. The climax of the Boomer lifestyle self hate evaluation cycle that lead to this Californian weirdness that leads to gay marriage or sanctuary cities.

1968 was perhaps the worst year in our history.
Assassinations of MLK and RFK, Riots in our cities, Chicago convention, war protests,

 

[sparky]

WWII

We saved the world

Having to rise to that challenge , having not been anywhere near the military might of the axis ,having to ration , assume a women work force, the list goes on & on ....~S~

 

[jasonnfree]

I think America has always been great for some people at one point or another in our history. I've been reading "A people's history of the USA" by Howard Zinn. A pretty good read and not the stuff I was taught in school in the '50's and '60's, where we learned that America was always the greatest, bar none. Howard was a liberal, probably a socialist, but he was also a combat vet of ww2, who decided to go in depth about our country's past, both the good and the bad.

 

[petro]

I would say 1968. Haight/Asbury hippy children of the kids of survivors of the depression. The climax of the Boomer lifestyle self hate evaluation cycle that lead to this Californian weirdness that leads to gay marriage or sanctuary cities.

1968 was perhaps the worst year in our history.
Assassinations of MLK and RFK, Riots in our cities, Chicago convention, war protests,

I was 3.
Must have been a crappy year as I threw a lot of tantrums and still crapped my pants.

 

[oldsoul]

So what era of America do we want to go back to?

Um, anyone who truley wishes to "go back to the 'good ol' days'" should start first by disposing of ALL technological advances since that time.

That means (depending on when the good ol' days were) no:

• smart phones
• cell phones of any kind
• internet
• advancements in medicine
• cable
• TV as a whole
• radio
• cars
• roads
• airplanes
• washing machines
• dish washers
• A/C
• Etc.

Seriously, who really wants to do without the conveniences of modern U.S. society?

 

[oldsoul]

1945, the last time we won a war.

Really? Post WWII? No Color TV, scarce A/C, no computers(let alone internet, smart phones, or interstate highways), No thanks!

 

[rightwinger]

1945, the last time we won a war.

Really? Post WWII? No Color TV, scarce A/C, no computers(let alone internet, smart phones, or interstate highways), No thanks!

In 1945 we were the only intact economy on earth
US ruled

 

[petro]

I really don't care for a bygone era.
Despite all the posted pessimistic, divisive, and political rhetoric from both parties, and the media.
Life is pretty damn good right now.
Live a comfortable life, have a few toys, get to play on the lakes and in the wilderness. Have a great wife, friends, family and life.

Really don't get all the fuss.

 

[rightwinger]

I really don't care for a bygone era.
Despite all the posted pessimistic, divisive, and political rhetoric from both parties, and the media.
Life is pretty damn good right now.
Live a comfortable life, have a few toys, get to play on the lakes and in the wilderness. Have a great wife, friends, family and life.

Really don't get all the fuss.

Life is comfortable today for most

The American Dream isn’t what it used to be

 

[Picaro]

I would have to choose the 1950s, when I was a teenager.

Of course, things were far from perfect.

But if you look at "I Love Lucy," you get some idea of a more innocent time.

There was no social media type of frenzy.

It was a time when most Americans had good-paying jobs, we had an avuncular president (and war hero), the new highway system was a-building, and people did NOT fixate on crime.

Yes, for the most people it was, a larger middle class with the prospects of your kids reaching the same status were pretty high for those on the working class.

Unfortunately, the affluence also lead to severe cultural weakening and susceptibility to degenerate propaganda and a couple of generations of narcissistic dope-addled half-wits with high self-esteem that have since crashed the culture and the economy. The 1930's values combined with the WW II assimilation spirit built the 1950's, the 1960's and the bratty spoiled whining and sniveling crushed it.

 

[Picaro]

So what era of America do we want to go back to?

Um, anyone who truley wishes to "go back to the 'good ol' days'" should start first by disposing of ALL technological advances since that time.

That means (depending on when the good ol' days were) no:

• smart phones
• cell phones of any kind
• internet
• advancements in medicine
• cable
• TV as a whole
• radio
• cars
• roads
• airplanes
• washing machines
• dish washers
• A/C
• Etc.

Seriously, who really wants to do without the conveniences of modern U.S. society?

We all got along just fine without that stuff, though in fact we had a lot of that stuff by the time I was born. Don't see 'smart phones' as anything 'great', just another scam to get idiots to pay yet another a monthly service charge for something useless.

As for myself, I really really liked driving across the West from Dallas to LA at an average speed at night around 110 mph with the 8 track and my amped up speakers blaring away, just to turned around and come back the same way, after a day or two of partying. You could go faster after they finished the interstate, but it wasn't as challenging then, kind of boring.

The only big change for the better was when FM stereo radio came along, and that forced rock and roll music to get much better; despite all the hype, it largely sucked in the 1950's and 1960's because the music market skewed toward the high range of crappy transistor radios and the bizarre whims and ever fickle tastes of dumbass teenage girls, who have no taste.. Anybody who doubts this need only check out all the Billboard Top 100 or Top 200 charts from around 1953 on; most of those 'great old classics' aren't near the top, and some years they're way down at # 75 or less. It's hilarious, really, how lousy the popular songs were in those days, pretty awful stuff dominated. And it only got worse with the Beatles, a revamped squeaky shrill little homo barbershop quartet came along, and because of all those shrieking lunatic girls everybody tried to copy them. My god The horror!!! THE HORROR!!! Endured that awful dark time for a few years until the real musicians began the rescue campaigns.

 

[rightwinger]

So what era of America do we want to go back to?

Um, anyone who truley wishes to "go back to the 'good ol' days'" should start first by disposing of ALL technological advances since that time.

That means (depending on when the good ol' days were) no:

• smart phones
• cell phones of any kind
• internet
• advancements in medicine
• cable
• TV as a whole
• radio
• cars
• roads
• airplanes
• washing machines
• dish washers
• A/C
• Etc.

Seriously, who really wants to do without the conveniences of modern U.S. society?

We all got along just fine without that stuff, though in fact we had a lot of that stuff by the time I was born. Don't see 'smart phones' as anything 'great', just another scam to get idiots to pay yet another a monthly service charge for something useless.

As for myself, I really really liked driving across the West from Dallas to LA at an average speed at night around 110 mph with the 8 track and my amped up speakers blaring away, just to turned around and come back the same way, after a day or two of partying. You could go faster after they finished the interstate, but it wasn't as challenging then, kind of boring.

The only big change for the better was when FM stereo radio came along, and that forced rock and roll music to get much better; despite all the hype, it largely sucked in the 1950's and 1960's because the music market skewed toward the high range of crappy transistor radios and the bizarre whims and ever fickle tastes of dumbass teenage girls, who have no taste.. Anybody who doubts this need only check out all the Billboard Top 100 or Top 200 charts from around 1953 on; most of those 'great old classics' aren't near the top, and some years they're way down at # 75 or less. It's hilarious, really, how lousy the popular songs were in those days, pretty awful stuff dominated. And it only got worse with the Beatles, a revamped squeaky shrill little homo barbershop quartet came along, and because of all those shrieking lunatic girls everybody tried to copy them. My god The horror!!! THE HORROR!!! Endured that awful dark time for a few years until the real musicians began the rescue campaigns.

The Golden age of Rock was 1966 to 1972 and the Beatles were at the forefront. That music is iconic and is still widely played today.
I would not have ever played the music my parents or grandparents played. But kids today have a taste for vintage Rock and Roll

 

[Picaro]

I would say 1968. Haight/Asbury hippy children of the kids of survivors of the depression. The climax of the Boomer lifestyle self hate evaluation cycle that lead to this Californian weirdness that leads to gay marriage or sanctuary cities.

1968 was perhaps the worst year in our history.
Assassinations of MLK and RFK, Riots in our cities, Chicago convention, war protests,

It was great year for left wing scum, and Richard Nixon. Your dope addled degenerate narcissists got rid of genuine liberals and destroyed the Democratic Party forever. You should be proud of what its become now, all vermin, all the time.

 

[Correll]

1945, the last time we won a war.

And segregation was still trendy.

Are you implying that wining a war and de-segregation are opposed?

 

[Correll]

Idiotic premise.

We don't want to go back to any era. We simply want to return to common sense decency and child rearing.

Here is he point where you cherry pick specific examples that were NOT very prevalent and try to pass them off as the norm in whatever era you also cherry pick.

Ey, I thought 1988 and really 1998 did not really suck to say the least. We had problems but there were positives.

So Common Sense Decency and Child Rearing? What does the Trump campaign have to do with decency and raising kids or what did they have to say about it? We aren't talking Mike Pence, right?

You can't have strong families if the Father can't be a breadwinner.


Trade and Immigration impacts that greatly.


Or Bigly, if you prefer.