When Obama Voted For Infanticide

[Jroc]

That is not a secret. The Obamedia, of course, refused to cover it while they were running down Sarah Palin’s third-grade report card. The clueless John McCain failed to bring any attention to it. But it was far from unknown. I wrote about it in August 2008, and I was far from alone — at least among conservatives. My column was called, “Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide: More important to protect abortion doctors than ‘that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it’”:

There wasn’t any question about what was happening. The abortions were going wrong. The babies weren’t cooperating. They wouldn’t die as planned. Or, as Illinois state senator Barack Obama so touchingly put it, there was “movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead.”

No, Senator. They wouldn’t go along with the program. They wouldn’t just come out limp and dead.

They were coming out alive. Born alive. Babies. Vulnerable human beings Obama, in his detached pomposity, might otherwise include among “the least of my brothers.” But of course, an abortion extremist can’t very well be invoking Saint Matthew, can he? So, for Obama, the shunning of these least of our brothers and sisters — millions of them — is somehow not among America’s greatest moral failings.

No. In Obama’s hardball, hard-Left world, these least become “that fetus, or child — however you want to describe it.”

Most of us, of course, opt for “child,” particularly when the “it” is born and living and breathing and in need of our help. Particularly when the “it” is clinging not to guns or religion but to life.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

 

[Jroc]

Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide

I was intimately involved in the five-year process to pass the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act, testifying before committees twice that then-state Sen. Barack Obama sat on.

Following are 10 excuses Obama has given through the years for voting “present” and “no” on the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act, or BAIPA.


10. Babies who survive abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.


Obama, the sole opponent ever to speak against BAIPA, stated on the Illinois Senate floor on March 30, 2001:

I just want to suggest … that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.


Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – child, a 9-month-old – child that was delivered to term. …


I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.


9. A ban to stop aborted babies from being shelved to die would be burdensome to mothers.


Before voting “no” for a second time in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 5, 2002, Obama stated:

What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I can’t support that.


8. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a doctor’s prerogative.


An Obama spokesman told the Chicago Tribune in August 2004 that Obama voted against BAIPA because it included provisions that “would have taken away from doctors their professional judgment when a fetus is viable.”


7. Anyway, doctors don’t do that.


Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in October 2004 he opposed BAIPA because “physicians are already required to use life-saving measures when fetuses are born alive during abortions.”


6. Obama apparently read medical charts and saw no proof.


Also, during a speech at Benedictine University in October 2004, Obama said “there was no documentation that hospitals were actually doing what was alleged in testimony presented before him in committee,” according to the Illinois Leader.


5. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a religious issue.


During his U.S. Senate contest against Obama, Alan Keyes famously said:

Christ would not stand idly by while an infant child in that situation died. … Christ would not vote for Barack Obama, because Barack Obama has voted to behave in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved.


Obama has always mischaracterized Keyes’ condemnation as a blanket statement against Obama’s pro-abortion position, which is untrue. Keyes was pointedly discussing infanticide.


Nevertheless, induced labor abortion, the procedure that sometimes results in babies being aborted alive, must be included as one Obama condones. Obama responded first to Keyes as he recounted in a July 10, 2006, USA Today op ed:

… [W]e live in a pluralistic society, and … I can’t impose my religious views on another.


4. Aborting babies alive and letting them die violates no universal principle.


In that USA Today piece, Obama said he reflected on that first answer, decided it was a “typically liberal response,” and revised it:

But my opponent’s accusations nagged at me. … If I am opposed to abortion for religious reasons but seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

Obama’s 10 reasons for supporting infanticide

 

[jillian]

moron

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is not a secret. The Obamedia, of course, refused to cover it while they were running down Sarah Palin’s third-grade report card. The clueless John McCain failed to bring any attention to it. But it was far from unknown. I wrote about it in August 2008, and I was far from alone — at least among conservatives. My column was called, “Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide: More important to protect abortion doctors than ‘that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it’”:

There wasn’t any question about what was happening. The abortions were going wrong. The babies weren’t cooperating. They wouldn’t die as planned. Or, as Illinois state senator Barack Obama so touchingly put it, there was “movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead.”

No, Senator. They wouldn’t go along with the program. They wouldn’t just come out limp and dead.

They were coming out alive. Born alive. Babies. Vulnerable human beings Obama, in his detached pomposity, might otherwise include among “the least of my brothers.” But of course, an abortion extremist can’t very well be invoking Saint Matthew, can he? So, for Obama, the shunning of these least of our brothers and sisters — millions of them — is somehow not among America’s greatest moral failings.

No. In Obama’s hardball, hard-Left world, these least become “that fetus, or child — however you want to describe it.”

Most of us, of course, opt for “child,” particularly when the “it” is born and living and breathing and in need of our help. Particularly when the “it” is clinging not to guns or religion but to life.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Troll on a roll.

 

[Jroc]

moron

Facts are facts they are not always pleasant especially when it comes to liberals

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jroc is a troll on patrol.

 

[Peach]

That is not a secret. The Obamedia, of course, refused to cover it while they were running down Sarah Palin’s third-grade report card. The clueless John McCain failed to bring any attention to it. But it was far from unknown. I wrote about it in August 2008, and I was far from alone — at least among conservatives. My column was called, “Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide: More important to protect abortion doctors than ‘that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it’”:

There wasn’t any question about what was happening. The abortions were going wrong. The babies weren’t cooperating. They wouldn’t die as planned. Or, as Illinois state senator Barack Obama so touchingly put it, there was “movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead.”

No, Senator. They wouldn’t go along with the program. They wouldn’t just come out limp and dead.

They were coming out alive. Born alive. Babies. Vulnerable human beings Obama, in his detached pomposity, might otherwise include among “the least of my brothers.” But of course, an abortion extremist can’t very well be invoking Saint Matthew, can he? So, for Obama, the shunning of these least of our brothers and sisters — millions of them — is somehow not among America’s greatest moral failings.

No. In Obama’s hardball, hard-Left world, these least become “that fetus, or child — however you want to describe it.”

Most of us, of course, opt for “child,” particularly when the “it” is born and living and breathing and in need of our help. Particularly when the “it” is clinging not to guns or religion but to life.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Troll on a roll.

Yep, contradictions within the dirt piece; Obama voted no & present, then is says he AGAIN voted no. How many OTHER state Senators voted NO? Here a few FACTS:

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

 

[Jroc]

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Troll on a roll.

Yep, contradictions within the dirt piece; Obama voted no & present, then is says he AGAIN voted no. How many OTHER state Senators voted NO? Here a few FACTS:

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

I passed over the liberal fact check .org site. I figured some lib would use it though

 

[JakeStarkey]

Facts are neither liberal nor conservative. Liars, like you, normally have political pathologies, Jroc.

 

[jillian]

moron

Facts are facts they are not always pleasant especially when it comes to liberals

unfortunately, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the butt.

you are, however, very good at hyperbole, fauxrage and ignorance.

 

[Peach]

Facts are neither liberal nor conservative. Liars, like you, normally have political pathologies, Jroc.

Of course he skipped the FACTS! That is the only way he could claim Obama voted for "infanticide".

 

[ABikerSailor]

Troll on a roll.

Yep, contradictions within the dirt piece; Obama voted no & present, then is says he AGAIN voted no. How many OTHER state Senators voted NO? Here a few FACTS:

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

I passed over the liberal fact check .org site. I figured some lib would use it though

Not surprised that you'd skip over a site that has actual facts, as you appear to prefer to swallow whole the lies told to you by conservative blog sites.

Way to go...........

 

[sealybobo]

Facts are neither liberal nor conservative. Liars, like you, normally have political pathologies, Jroc.

Democrats need to flip this conversation on Republicans.

Women! Do you want the right to choose? 70% of you do? Then vote Democratic this November. And start showing up to midterms. They matter.

 

[Jroc]

moron

Facts are facts they are not always pleasant especially when it comes to liberals

unfortunately, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the butt.

you are, however, very good at hyperbole, fauxrage and ignorance.

Now see..I thought we were tight. "ignorance"? Anyone that thinks Obama is good for Israel is in no position to judge "ignorance" Don’t worry I still love you.

 

[Jroc]

Yep, contradictions within the dirt piece; Obama voted no & present, then is says he AGAIN voted no. How many OTHER state Senators voted NO? Here a few FACTS:

FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’

I passed over the liberal fact check .org site. I figured some lib would use it though

Not surprised that you'd skip over a site that has actual facts, as you appear to prefer to swallow whole the lies told to you by conservative blog sites.

Way to go...........

Actual facts? The facts are Obama did not vote for the ILL infant protection act because he was pandering to the pro-abortion lobby that’s the fact, Infanticide he could care less, if it interfered with his liberal political ambitions

 

[ABikerSailor]

I passed over the liberal fact check .org site. I figured some lib would use it though

Not surprised that you'd skip over a site that has actual facts, as you appear to prefer to swallow whole the lies told to you by conservative blog sites.

Way to go...........

Actual facts? The facts are Obama did not vote for the ILL infant protection act because he was pandering to the pro-abortion lobby that’s the fact, Infanticide he could care less, if it interfered with his liberal political ambitions

Mccarthy is at about the same level of "facts and truthfulness" as Breitbart is.

Which is to say.........none at all, as they like to inflate figures and spin the truth until it becomes a spiral.

 

[sealybobo]

Facts are facts they are not always pleasant especially when it comes to liberals

unfortunately, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the butt.

you are, however, very good at hyperbole, fauxrage and ignorance.

Now see..I thought we were tight. "ignorance"? Anyone that thinks Obama is good for Israel is in no position to judge "ignorance" Don’t worry I still love you.

If being pro Israel means fighting a war with Iran, I am not pro Israel. If that means losing the Jewish vote, so be it. Why do they care about Israel and not America? My family came from Greece. Who gives a shit what Greece thinks?

 

[Jroc]

unfortunately, you wouldn't know a "fact" if it bit you in the butt.

you are, however, very good at hyperbole, fauxrage and ignorance.

Now see..I thought we were tight. "ignorance"? Anyone that thinks Obama is good for Israel is in no position to judge "ignorance" Don’t worry I still love you.

If being pro Israel means fighting a war with Iran, I am not pro Israel. If that means losing the Jewish vote, so be it. Why do they care about Israel and not America? My family came from Greece. Who gives a shit what Greece thinks?

Was I talking to you idiot?

 

[Sarah G]

That is not a secret. The Obamedia, of course, refused to cover it while they were running down Sarah Palin’s third-grade report card. The clueless John McCain failed to bring any attention to it. But it was far from unknown. I wrote about it in August 2008, and I was far from alone — at least among conservatives. My column was called, “Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide: More important to protect abortion doctors than ‘that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it’”:

There wasn’t any question about what was happening. The abortions were going wrong. The babies weren’t cooperating. They wouldn’t die as planned. Or, as Illinois state senator Barack Obama so touchingly put it, there was “movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead.”

No, Senator. They wouldn’t go along with the program. They wouldn’t just come out limp and dead.

They were coming out alive. Born alive. Babies. Vulnerable human beings Obama, in his detached pomposity, might otherwise include among “the least of my brothers.” But of course, an abortion extremist can’t very well be invoking Saint Matthew, can he? So, for Obama, the shunning of these least of our brothers and sisters — millions of them — is somehow not among America’s greatest moral failings.

No. In Obama’s hardball, hard-Left world, these least become “that fetus, or child — however you want to describe it.”

Most of us, of course, opt for “child,” particularly when the “it” is born and living and breathing and in need of our help. Particularly when the “it” is clinging not to guns or religion but to life.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

Troll on a roll.

Somebody squish it.

 

[JoeB131]

There are a LOT of valid things to criticize Barack Obama over.

This is not one of them.

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