When is enough finally enough?

[sealybobo]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

I don't think so

Trump-O-Meter: Tracking Trump's Campaign Promises

 

[sealybobo]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

Yes corporations do better when Republicans rule but labor always gets hurt. Watch. It's early. Of course corporations are loving the tax breaks and deregulations. Are you a corporation or rich?

 

[RealDave]

As I read this short piece tonight, all the broken promises, disappoinments, boondoggles, and downright lies and hypocrisy of the last two decades seemed to flash before my eyes.

How much of this kind of dishonesty will we accept from our government before we say enough is enough? How much hypocrisy and/or duplicity is tolerable from our elected leaders?

Is there no alternative to accepting the bad with the good? If not, what should we do about it?

Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.

On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was "absolutely" committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:

TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it's voted on at the very end?

PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.


But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what's in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: "No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that."

Apparently Pelosi's agreement to leave the "final" bill online "at the very end" of the process wasn't such a straightforward pledge.
The Weekly Standard

So you ignore the daily lies from Trump & the BS from Congress go back 8 years to find something Pelosi said? The bill was online & was discussed for months.
Republicans write a tax bill behind closed door & did not allow anyone to read it & did not follow standard procedure & you say nothing?

 

[sealybobo]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

I hope and pray that those people get turned off to the political process just like Obama supporters didn't show up in 2010.

You can't think this year went well for Trump. Any moron could have achieved what he achieved. Want the stock market to go up? Give corporations huge tax give aways that will add to the debt.

 

[Foxfyre]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

Stop with that right wing bullshit montra. You forget it was the greatest recession since the great Depression fool.

You guys put us in a ditch and complain how long it took for us to get you out of the fucking ditch?

Your opinion is noted. It's wrong. But it's noted.

 

[sealybobo]

As I read this short piece tonight, all the broken promises, disappoinments, boondoggles, and downright lies and hypocrisy of the last two decades seemed to flash before my eyes.

How much of this kind of dishonesty will we accept from our government before we say enough is enough? How much hypocrisy and/or duplicity is tolerable from our elected leaders?

Is there no alternative to accepting the bad with the good? If not, what should we do about it?

Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.

On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was "absolutely" committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:

TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it's voted on at the very end?

PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.


But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what's in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: "No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that."

Apparently Pelosi's agreement to leave the "final" bill online "at the very end" of the process wasn't such a straightforward pledge.
The Weekly Standard

So you ignore the daily lies from Trump & the BS from Congress go back 8 years to find something Pelosi said? The bill was online & was discussed for months.
Republicans write a tax bill behind closed door & did not allow anyone to read it & did not follow standard procedure & you say nothing?

Remember how outraged Republicans were because the Democrats didn't read the entire ACA bill before signing it? Hypocrites.

 

[Foxfyre]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

You and Trump gonna fix things for the college kids?

I certainly hope so by doing nothing for the college kids. They managed much better before so much government interference.

 

[RealDave]

And here's another one that is positively infuriating, frustrating, and frightening. When the system becomes this corrupt, how can we trust the process at all? Who among us supports the Democrats on this one?

Senate blocks census US-citizenship question
.Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writer – Thu Nov 5, 12:52 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.

The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state. Critics said Vitter's plan would discourage immigrants from responding to the census and would be hugely expensive. They also said that it's long been settled law that the apportionment of congressional seats is determined by the number of people living in each state, regardless of whether they are citizens. A separate survey already collects the data.

The plan fell after a 60-39 procedural vote made it ineligible for attachment to a bill funding the census
Senate blocks census US-citizenship question - Yahoo! News

The purpose of the census is to find out who lives here.

Why put in a question that will stop people from replying?

 

[sealybobo]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

Stop with that right wing bullshit montra. You forget it was the greatest recession since the great Depression fool.

You guys put us in a ditch and complain how long it took for us to get you out of the fucking ditch?

Your opinion is noted. It's wrong. But it's noted.

No matter how well Obama did you were going to say it wasn't good enough. But keep in mind you said Bush did a good job and we should continue on that road by electing McCain. Right?

Obama’s Final Jobs Report Marks 75 Consecutive Months of Growth

the December jobs report concludes a year of steady economic growth: For most of the year, the unemployment rate has been hovering just under 5 percent, the lowest levels since 2007. Although the pace of employment growth in 2016 slowed compared to 2014 and 2015—the height of the economic recovery—last year’s numbers put outgoing President Barack Obama ahead of George W. Bush (but behind Bill Clinton) when it comes to job creation.

Analysis | 19 times Trump called jobs numbers ‘fake’ before they made him look good

 

[g5000]

A stiumulus bill worth 787 Billion dollars

That's nothing. Trump and the GOP literally just spent TWICE that amount on a stimulus bill, and suddenly all the pseudocons are totally cool with massive debt spending to stimulate the economy!

It's all good!

Even better, they have NO IDEA what's in it. But they wanted it passed anyway.

 

[sealybobo]

Unemployment numbers not 'phony' to Trump anymore - CNNPolitics

"I talked to the President prior to this and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now,' " Spicer said Friday from the White House podium, hours after the government announced 235,000 new jobs in February and a dip in the unemployment rate to 4.7% from 4.8%.


Spicer's response prompted inevitable laughter in a room of reporters mindful of Trump's repeated smear of government-compiled jobs numbers.

 

[Foxfyre]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

I don't think so

Trump-O-Meter: Tracking Trump's Campaign Promises

When you can use a site that isn't pretty much 100% Trump negative, please post it. (I'll refer you to my thread on Fake News.) Otherwise have a nice day.

 

[Foxfyre]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

Yes corporations do better when Republicans rule but labor always gets hurt. Watch. It's early. Of course corporations are loving the tax breaks and deregulations. Are you a corporation or rich?

I am neither a corporation nor rich. But I can assure you that when business does better, so does labor.

 

[Avatar4321]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Bush inherited a recession..

 

[Foxfyre]

As I read this short piece tonight, all the broken promises, disappoinments, boondoggles, and downright lies and hypocrisy of the last two decades seemed to flash before my eyes.

How much of this kind of dishonesty will we accept from our government before we say enough is enough? How much hypocrisy and/or duplicity is tolerable from our elected leaders?

Is there no alternative to accepting the bad with the good? If not, what should we do about it?

Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.

On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was "absolutely" committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:

TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it's voted on at the very end?

PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.


But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what's in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: "No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that."

Apparently Pelosi's agreement to leave the "final" bill online "at the very end" of the process wasn't such a straightforward pledge.
The Weekly Standard

So you ignore the daily lies from Trump & the BS from Congress go back 8 years to find something Pelosi said? The bill was online & was discussed for months.
Republicans write a tax bill behind closed door & did not allow anyone to read it & did not follow standard procedure & you say nothing?

Please check the dates on the posts and you won't sound so erratic and irresponsible in your post.

 

[Foxfyre]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Yet we came out of Obama’s 8 years and handed trump a good economy. Clinton handed bush a good economy too

Oh yeah the economy was just great. Slowest growth coming out of a recession EVER. More people of work force age out of the work force since the worst of the Carter economy creating a false unemployment figure. More people on food stamps than ever. Loss of family wealth. More people without basic benefits due to part times hours triggered mostly by Obamacare than we have probably ever seen. More college graduates living in their parent's basement and government extension of benefits to 'children' in their mid 20s that any other generation would have expected to be out on their own and earning their own way.

So we now have a President who actually heard the people's anguish, let them know that he did, and stated an agenda that they had been hungry to hear for decades. And he was elected against all odds and predictions, and he was elected with enough margin that there were no challenges to his victory. And he has not disappointed as he has been keeping campaign promises like no president in my quite long memory has done.

And the results have been pretty remarkable so far. MSN Money just announced that the stock market had its best opening week since 2006. Business confidence is way up. Consumer confidence is way up. People are going back to work and millions will be able to work full time with full benefits with a single job again.

I just hope and pray that those who are focused on President Trump's agenda, and who are mostly ignoring all the efforts of the left to destroy him, will not become weary. We need to keep reporting the good news because a dishonest MSM will not. And we need to keep the pressure on a feckless, self-serving permanent political class in Congress to get on board and stop dragging their feet as they all hope to preserve the status quo that most honorable people hate and reject as what America is supposed to be.

One first year scorecard:
Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed

I hope and pray that those people get turned off to the political process just like Obama supporters didn't show up in 2010.

You can't think this year went well for Trump. Any moron could have achieved what he achieved. Want the stock market to go up? Give corporations huge tax give aways that will add to the debt.

Well the fact is nobody did achieve it until Trump got into office. Obama had eight years to achieve it and didn't.

 

[Avatar4321]

As I read this short piece tonight, all the broken promises, disappoinments, boondoggles, and downright lies and hypocrisy of the last two decades seemed to flash before my eyes.

How much of this kind of dishonesty will we accept from our government before we say enough is enough? How much hypocrisy and/or duplicity is tolerable from our elected leaders?

Is there no alternative to accepting the bad with the good? If not, what should we do about it?

Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.

On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was "absolutely" committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:

TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it's voted on at the very end?

PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.


But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what's in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: "No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that."

Apparently Pelosi's agreement to leave the "final" bill online "at the very end" of the process wasn't such a straightforward pledge.
The Weekly Standard

So you ignore the daily lies from Trump & the BS from Congress go back 8 years to find something Pelosi said? The bill was online & was discussed for months.
Republicans write a tax bill behind closed door & did not allow anyone to read it & did not follow standard procedure & you say nothing?

You think you’re responding to a 16 year old article?

 

[g5000]

As I read this short piece tonight, all the broken promises, disappoinments, boondoggles, and downright lies and hypocrisy of the last two decades seemed to flash before my eyes.

How much of this kind of dishonesty will we accept from our government before we say enough is enough? How much hypocrisy and/or duplicity is tolerable from our elected leaders?

Is there no alternative to accepting the bad with the good? If not, what should we do about it?

Pelosi Breaks Pledge to Put Final Health Care Bill Online for 72 Hours Before Vote

Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

It seems likely that the rule will allow very few, if any, up-or-down votes on amendments on the House floor. Rather, the rule will include a series of amendments that will all be adopted at once if the rule passes.

On September 24, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told THE WEEKLY STANDARD that she was "absolutely" committed to putting the text of the final House bill online for 72 hours before the House votes:

TWS: Madam Speaker, do you support the measure to put the final House bill online for 72 hours before it's voted on at the very end?

PELOSI: Absolutely. Without question.


But tonight, when asked if Speaker Pelosi will leave the bill online for 72 hours after we see what's in the rule, Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly replied in an email: "No; [the] pledge was to have manager’s amendment online for 72 hours, and we will do that."

Apparently Pelosi's agreement to leave the "final" bill online "at the very end" of the process wasn't such a straightforward pledge.
The Weekly Standard

So you ignore the daily lies from Trump & the BS from Congress go back 8 years to find something Pelosi said? The bill was online & was discussed for months.
Republicans write a tax bill behind closed door & did not allow anyone to read it & did not follow standard procedure & you say nothing?

Please check the dates on the posts and you won't sound so erratic and irresponsible in your post.

Do you know how many pages the recent GOP $1.5 trillion stimulus bill was?

Can you smell the stench of hypocrisy? I sure can!

 

[Foxfyre]

And here's another one that is positively infuriating, frustrating, and frightening. When the system becomes this corrupt, how can we trust the process at all? Who among us supports the Democrats on this one?

Senate blocks census US-citizenship question
.Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writer – Thu Nov 5, 12:52 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.

The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state. Critics said Vitter's plan would discourage immigrants from responding to the census and would be hugely expensive. They also said that it's long been settled law that the apportionment of congressional seats is determined by the number of people living in each state, regardless of whether they are citizens. A separate survey already collects the data.

The plan fell after a 60-39 procedural vote made it ineligible for attachment to a bill funding the census
Senate blocks census US-citizenship question - Yahoo! News

The purpose of the census is to find out who lives here.

Why put in a question that will stop people from replying?

That was an argument made back in 2009 when the issue came up and when this thread was created. But the point is, the census is used for many things such as government programs/funding, vote districting, etc. etc. etc. A high census of illegals responding to the census in the same way that citizens do could significantly skew the data. Most especially when more than 3/4ths of the illegals are living in five U.S. states.

 

[francoHFW]

I hear ya Foxfyre. In the end,absolute power really does corrupt absolutely. There are no Checks & Balances on this Socialist Nightmare at this point. We will only drift closer & closer to becoming a Third World Banana Republic until this changes. Hang in there.

Actually it is GOP tax rates and policy that is turning us into a Banana Republic... We now have the worst inequality in the modern world by far. And the major problem we have is the giant GOP propaganda machine which turns out Chumps like you people by the Millions...