When arguing against SNAP for single mothers, why do repubs ignore the children themselves?

[koshergrl]

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Oooh..wrong. And wrong again.

People who are eligible for foodstamps are also financially eligible for most housing/energy subsidies.

Well probably but considering the average total income for one household on these programs is $744 per month they would need it wouldn't they?

Need isn't the point. My point is that your statement that very few SNap recipients receive other benefits.

They surely do.

 

[Billy000]

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Oooh..wrong. And wrong again.

People who are eligible for foodstamps are also financially eligible for most housing/energy subsidies.

Well probably but considering the average total income for one household on these programs is $744 per month they would need it wouldn't they?

Need isn't the point. My point is that your statement that very few SNap recipients receive other benefits.

They surely do.

Good I'm glad they do.

Can we stop splitting hairs over this issue? You people are obsessing ove the smallest of issues just for sake of winning an argument.

 

[koshergrl]

Get food stampd
Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Oooh..wrong. And wrong again.

People who are eligible for foodstamps are also financially eligible for most housing/energy subsidies.

Well probably but considering the average total income for one household on these programs is $744 per month they would need it wouldn't they?

Need isn't the point. My point is that your statement that very few SNap recipients receive other benefits.

They surely do.

Good I'm glad they do.

Can we stop splitting hairs over this issue? You people are obsessing ove the smallest of issues just for sake of winning an argument.

Nonsense. What I'm doing is submitting proof that a statement you have used as an argument is a complete fabrication...then refusing the pick up the bait when you try to change the subject.

So we agree. Your statement that most people receiving SNAP aren't eligible to receive other benefits.

That cuts a big hole in the ol' argument that our welfare recipients are paying their way, lol.

 

[Billy000]

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Oooh..wrong. And wrong again.

People who are eligible for foodstamps are also financially eligible for most housing/energy subsidies.

Well probably but considering the average total income for one household on these programs is $744 per month they would need it wouldn't they?

Need isn't the point. My point is that your statement that very few SNap recipients receive other benefits.

They surely do.

Good I'm glad they do.

Can we stop splitting hairs over this issue? You people are obsessing ove the smallest of issues just for sake of winning an argument.

Nonsense. What I'm doing is submitting proof that a statement you have used as an argument is a complete fabrication...then refusing the pick up the bait when you try to change the subject.

So we agree. Your statement that most people receiving SNAP aren't eligible to receive other benefits.

That cuts a big hole in the ol' argument that our welfare recipients are paying their way, lol.

See this is what I'm talking about. I think i made it sufficiently clear I believed your claim. Do I need to repeat it over and over just so you can feel validated?

 

[koshergrl]

Oooh..wrong. And wrong again.

People who are eligible for foodstamps are also financially eligible for most housing/energy subsidies.

Well probably but considering the average total income for one household on these programs is $744 per month they would need it wouldn't they?

Need isn't the point. My point is that your statement that very few SNap recipients receive other benefits.

They surely do.

Good I'm glad they do.

Can we stop splitting hairs over this issue? You people are obsessing ove the smallest of issues just for sake of winning an argument.

Nonsense. What I'm doing is submitting proof that a statement you have used as an argument is a complete fabrication...then refusing the pick up the bait when you try to change the subject.

So we agree. Your statement that most people receiving SNAP aren't eligible to receive other benefits.

That cuts a big hole in the ol' argument that our welfare recipients are paying their way, lol.

See this is what I'm talking about. I think i made it sufficiently clear I believed your claim. Do I need to repeat it over and over just so you can feel validated?

Oh, I could have sworn you tried to change the subject.

 

[TooTall]

What problem?

That 15% of our population lives in poverty. That the vast majority of those on food stamps would starve without it.

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

What problem?

That 15% of our population lives in poverty. That the vast majority of those on food stamps would starve without it.

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

 

[koshergrl]

That 15% of our population lives in poverty. That the vast majority of those on food stamps would starve without it.

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

That 15% of our population lives in poverty. That the vast majority of those on food stamps would starve without it.

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

Because many of the federally subsidized programs use the exact same income/deprivation standards. And that income standard is 185 percent of the federal poverty level. People can make up to 2x what the FEDERAL poverty level is, and qualify for all sorts of goodies that cost a lot. And even though they are working, their taxes most definitely DO NOT and WILL NEVER even come CLOSE to funding it. Not in a year, not in their entire lives.

 

[Billy000]

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

Who told you that? Did that come from some blog or government website turned out by those with a vested interest in seeing these programs grow without limits?

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

Because many of the federally subsidized programs use the exact same income/deprivation standards. And that income standard is 185 percent of the federal poverty level. People can make up to 2x what the FEDERAL poverty level is, and qualify for all sorts of goodies that cost a lot. And even though they are working, their taxes most definitely DO NOT and WILL NEVER even come CLOSE to funding it. Not in a year, not in their entire lives.

No for SNAP the max is 130% of the poverty level and the average household on it doesn't even go the high.

 

[koshergrl]

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Get food stampd

Here are the actual facts. The average household (not simply one person) on food stamps has a gross income of $744 per MONTH. The average household gets about $133 a month in assistance.

Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

Because many of the federally subsidized programs use the exact same income/deprivation standards. And that income standard is 185 percent of the federal poverty level. People can make up to 2x what the FEDERAL poverty level is, and qualify for all sorts of goodies that cost a lot. And even though they are working, their taxes most definitely DO NOT and WILL NEVER even come CLOSE to funding it. Not in a year, not in their entire lives.

No for SNAP the max is 130% of the poverty level and the average household on it doesn't even go the high.

Wrong.

185 percent of the federal poverty level is the categorical eligibility level. At that level, you are *categorically eligible* which means according to your income, you're eligible to receive snap.

Then your deductions are applied against your gross income, and of THAT amount, where you fall between 130 percent and 185 percent of the fpl determines how much of an allotment you receive. Many, many working households are open with $0.00 allotment. And the REASON they go through the trouble of having a snap case when they receive no allotment is that it makes them ELIGIBLE for OTHER PROGRAMS. If they go in for subsidized housing, energy assistance, school lunches, employment related daycare, head start/preschool free tuition, Obamaphones, foodbanks..all they have to do is provide their case number and they are considered automatically income eligible.

 

[Billy000]

Get food stampd
Do you think some of those folks get on any of these programs as well as food stamps?


"U.S. Welfare Programs fit into 13 large categories which are listed and described below. All U.S. Welfare Programs provide benefits to low-income individuals and families. The programs represent entitlements to all Americans but benefits are only paid to individuals and families with low income. For more information see theDefinition of Welfare Page, theEntitlement Programs Pageand theSocial Safety Net Page.
In addition to the 13 programs shown below, U.S. Welfare Programs also include the Medicaid Program which provides health care to low-income citizens and certain non-citizens.

Negative Income Tax– Two tax credit programs are administered by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to distribute money to low-income Americans. The tax credits include a “refundable” portion which is paid to individuals and families that owe no income tax for the year. Therefore, this portion of the tax credits act as “negative income tax”. The two programs are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and the Child Tax Credit. More

SNAP– This is a food program for low-income individuals and families. SNAP used to be called the food stamp program and stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It is run by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture). Participants receive a debit card which is accepted in most grocery stories for the purchase of food. More

Housing Assistance– Various housing programs are administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) including rental assistance, public housing and various community development grants. More.

SSI– This is a program to pay cash to low-income individuals over 65 years of age or under 65 if the individual is blind or disabled. SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income and is administered by the Social Security Administration. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More

Pell Grants– This is a grant program administered by the Department of Education to distribute up to $5,550 to students from low-income households to promote postsecondary education (colleges and trade schools). More

TANF- This is a combined federal and state program that pays cash to low-income households with the goal of moving individuals from welfare to work. TANF stands for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and is administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. More

Child Nutrition– These are food programs administered by the USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) which include school lunch, breakfast and after school programs. They target children from low-income households and provide free or reduced price meals. More

Head Start– This is a pre-school program available to kids from low-income families. It is administered by HHS (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services). More

Job Training Programs– These are a myriad of training programs administered by the Department of Labor (DOL) to provide job training, displacement and employment services generally targeting low-income Americans. More

WIC - This is a program to provide Healthy food to pregnant women and children up to five years of age. WIC stands for Women, Infants and Children and is available to low-income households. More.

Child Care– This is a block grant program to states and local public and private agencies who administer child care programs to low-income families. It is administered by HHS. More

LIHEAP– This is a program to aid low-income households that pay a high proportion of household income for home energy, either heating or cooling a residential dwelling. LIHEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program and is administered by HHS. More

Lifeline (Obama Phone)– This is a program to provide discounted phone service, including cell phones, to low-income individuals. The program is administered by the Federal Communications Commission. More"

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

Because many of the federally subsidized programs use the exact same income/deprivation standards. And that income standard is 185 percent of the federal poverty level. People can make up to 2x what the FEDERAL poverty level is, and qualify for all sorts of goodies that cost a lot. And even though they are working, their taxes most definitely DO NOT and WILL NEVER even come CLOSE to funding it. Not in a year, not in their entire lives.

No for SNAP the max is 130% of the poverty level and the average household on it doesn't even go the high.

Wrong.

185 percent of the federal poverty level is the categorical eligibility level. At that level, you are *categorically eligible* which means according to your income, you're eligible to receive snap.

Then your deductions are applied against your gross income, and of THAT amount, where you fall between 130 percent and 185 percent of the fpl determines how much of an allotment you receive. Many, many working households are open with $0.00 allotment. And the REASON they go through the trouble of having a snap case when they receive no allotment is that it makes them ELIGIBLE for OTHER PROGRAMS. If they go in for subsidized housing, energy assistance, school lunches, employment related daycare, head start/preschool free tuition, Obamaphones, foodbanks..all they have to do is provide their case number and they are considered automatically income eligible.

You need to back up your claim. Perhaps for some programs it is 185 but for SNAP specifically it is 130.

 

[koshergrl]

Did you even read the description of all of those? Very few people on SNAP get any sort of other government assistance related to being poor besides perhaps childcare assistance. Maybe they would get housing assistance as well but they would have to be dirt, dirt poor.

Most of those programs are available to low income families just as SNAP is. The one you bring up constantly, food stamps and child nutrition provide breakfast and lunch five days a week to kids in school, so food stamps only have to pay for 1 meal a day. If you think lot of people aren't on three, four or more of these programs you are not right in the head.
I spent several years providing transportation for three different single mothers that went to and applied for a half a dozen of these programs and they got every one of them.

Because many of the federally subsidized programs use the exact same income/deprivation standards. And that income standard is 185 percent of the federal poverty level. People can make up to 2x what the FEDERAL poverty level is, and qualify for all sorts of goodies that cost a lot. And even though they are working, their taxes most definitely DO NOT and WILL NEVER even come CLOSE to funding it. Not in a year, not in their entire lives.

No for SNAP the max is 130% of the poverty level and the average household on it doesn't even go the high.

Wrong.

185 percent of the federal poverty level is the categorical eligibility level. At that level, you are *categorically eligible* which means according to your income, you're eligible to receive snap.

Then your deductions are applied against your gross income, and of THAT amount, where you fall between 130 percent and 185 percent of the fpl determines how much of an allotment you receive. Many, many working households are open with $0.00 allotment. And the REASON they go through the trouble of having a snap case when they receive no allotment is that it makes them ELIGIBLE for OTHER PROGRAMS. If they go in for subsidized housing, energy assistance, school lunches, employment related daycare, head start/preschool free tuition, Obamaphones, foodbanks..all they have to do is provide their case number and they are considered automatically income eligible.

You need to back up your claim. Perhaps for some programs it is 185 but for SNAP specifically it is 130.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/snap/BBCE.pdf

 

[koshergrl]

"There are varying income eligibility thresholds
within states that convey “broad-based” categorical eligibility, though no state has a gross income
limit above 200% of the federal poverty guidelines."

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

 

[koshergrl]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

 

[koshergrl]

"States have increasingly availed themselves of the option to use broad-based categorical

eligibility to expand and ease access to SNAP eligibility. The Department of Agriculture reports
that as of July 21, 2014 (the latest data available), 43 jurisdictions operated broad-based
categorical eligibility to make most or all households in their state with whom the state welfare
office comes in contact SNAP eligible.
Table 1 shows the use of SNAP broad-based categorical eligibility by state as of July 21, 2014.

Of the 43 jurisdictions using broad-based categorical eligibility,
• 41 make all family types eligible (New Hampshire restricted broad-based

categorical eligibility to families with children; New York restricted broad-based
categorical eligibility to households with dependent care expenses);
• 38 currently have no asset test.."

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

 

[Billy000]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

 

[koshergrl]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

Yes, you were wrong.

 

[Billy000]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

Yes, you were wrong.

Um no. The average maximum across the country is 130 but the average doesn't even go that high. It can be up to 200. You said 185 based on nothing.

 

[koshergrl]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

Yes, you were wrong.

Um no. The average maximum across the country is 130 but the average doesn't even go that high. It can be up to 200. You said 185 based on nothing.

No, I said 185 based on the fact that it's 185 in MY STATE, where we certify people every day who have zero allotment open foodstamps for the sole purpose of qualifying for energy assistance, free lunches, free phones and rental subsidies.

 

[koshergrl]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

Yes, you were wrong.

Um no. The average maximum across the country is 130 but the average doesn't even go that high. It can be up to 200. You said 185 based on nothing.

You didn't say "average". You said unequivocally that the cat el standard was 130 percent, as an argument to my statement that it was 185 percent.

Wrong. Maybe in YOUR state, it's 130.

But in many states, it's between 185-200 percent. Averages had nothing to do with your comment, nor this topic.

 

[Billy000]

Broad-based categorical eligibility:


“Broad-based” categorical eligibility. These states have expanded categorical

eligibility in ways that make most, if not all, households with low incomes in a
state categorically eligible for SNAP. States could make all low-income
households in a state—including those without children—eligible for a TANF-
funded service directed at either the reducing out-of-wedlock pregnancies or
promoting two-parent families goals of TANF. If a state opted to do so, any low income
household (under 200% of poverty, per regulation) could either receive,
or be authorized to receive, such a TANF-funded service. Based on the currently
available information, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the Virgin
Islands have broad-based categorical eligibility policies."

40 states apply broad-based categorical eligibility, which means provide snap to households up to 200 percent of the FPL, in order to extend federal program eligibility to those households.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42054.pdf

Up to 200%. The average is 130.

Yes, you were wrong.

Um no. The average maximum across the country is 130 but the average doesn't even go that high. It can be up to 200. You said 185 based on nothing.

You didn't say "average". You said unequivocally that the cat el standard was 130 percent, as an argument to my statement that it was 185 percent.

Wrong. Maybe in YOUR state, it's 130.

But in many states, it's between 185-200 percent. Averages had nothing to do with your comment, nor this topic.

In many states it is between 185 and 200? No. You are just making that up. The average across the country is 130. However that is just the maximum like I said. The average person within that standard doesn't even reach 130. That was always my point.