What's Wrong With Liberalism?

[NYcarbineer]

"If you want to argue against Liberalism, argue against what liberals actually believe, support, and advocate for....."

Okey doke....






Here are some of the issues Liberals actually believe, support, and advocate for.....


1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.

3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.




4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.




7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."




9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

a. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."





10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal ....I understand how that omits your input.....agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and desires of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?


I mean, seriously......


QED?






Oh...wait.....did I say Democrats/Liberals/Progressives????
Silly me....I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals






'don't construct a Marxist strawman, stick a 'Liberal' nametag on him, and then argue against that.'

You must be looking for the Department of Redundancy Department.

I always enjoy it when an attempt to refute something I said results in a total vindication of what I said.

Merely because you don't admit it.....especially with your track record on honesty.....has no bearing on the truth of my post.

Your post is shit.

Where's the evidence that most liberals want to totally disarm the US?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Political Hick logic:

Living longer doesn't mean you lived longer.
You're garbage.

You really have no way to argue that my post wasn't dispositive....
Of course the graph you posted was designed to fool the easily fooled, i.e., Liberals
That validates the appellation: Dunce.

the U.S. ranks 18th among 30 world democracies in life expectancy

Your source.

It's like I'm speaking to a child....or a liberal.


OK....as slowly as I can>?

1. Your graph was provided to put American healthcare in a poor light.

2.My post referred to your's and showed that while the graph suggests "the U.S. ranks 18th among 30 world democracies in life expectancy,"....

....it is erroneous.

3. The error is that it includes causes of death unrelated to healthcare: homicides and auto accidents.

4. The take-away is twofold:

a. based on healthcare....the United States is number one in longevity.

b. you are as dumb as asphalt....i.e., a Dunce.

 

[M14 Shooter]

''For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."

General Douglas MacArthur

CLASSICAL Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

Fixed that for you

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

You're confused. Modern American Liberals point to Europe, et al, and say "Look what they do! We should do that too!"
Your confusion is likely deliberate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I always enjoy it when an attempt to refute something I said results in a total vindication of what I said.

Merely because you don't admit it.....especially with your track record on honesty.....has no bearing on the truth of my post.

Your post is shit.

Where's the evidence that most liberals want to totally disarm the US?

Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Modern Liberalism

Very nice.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

In the case of healthcare (and gun control--likely a contributor to the graphic below); the rest of the world has it right.

Hey!

What did you just say?
The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

What did I just say in response?
Modern American Liberals point to Europe, et al, and say "Look what they do! We should do that too!"

Thank you for proving me correct - not that there was any question.

 

[Pogo]

Seems to be a regular objection to my OPs by my Leftwing pals that I'm constantly carping about Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.....trying to connect same with communism, Marxism.....

Guilty as charged.
And not by accident.

'Nuff said. Nothing to argue with there.



















Here's your prollem:

















This inane list of whines that I snipped has nothing to do with Liberalism. It's a melange of leftism and myth. Not Liberalism.













You don't know the difference.

















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[Plasmaball]

No the regular rejection is that you have no clue as what you are speaking about. You use loose snippets of copy and pasted info as your sources. Mix that in with your own bias speculation ( that you consider fact) and you get every thread youve ever created period.

When confronted with questions you just deflect with insults because you cant defend what you post. Unless the person agrees with you.

You are a try hard intellectual that wishes she could be an amn coulter.

 

[PoliticalChic]

no the regular rejection is that you have no clue as what you are speaking about. You use loose snippets of copy and pasted info as your sources. Mix that in with your own bias speculation ( that you consider fact) and you get every thread youve ever created period.

When confronted with questions you just deflect with insults because you cant defend what you post. Unless the person agrees with you.

You are a try hard intellectual that wishes she could be an amn coulter.

ok

 

[NYcarbineer]

''For the framers of the Constitution were the most liberal thinkers of all the ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."

General Douglas MacArthur

Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Merely because you don't admit it.....especially with your track record on honesty.....has no bearing on the truth of my post.

Your post is shit.

Where's the evidence that most liberals want to totally disarm the US?

Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

I'm merely trying to find the level at which you would debate the merits of your claims, since you obviously won't debate them at an adult level.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Merely because you don't admit it.....especially with your track record on honesty.....has no bearing on the truth of my post.

Your post is shit.

Where's the evidence that most liberals want to totally disarm the US?

Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

No. Blurting out 'Marxist!' tourettes style every time the subject of liberalism comes up would much better fit your description.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

President Reagan made certain that emergency rooms would take care of any person who came in.

When RomneyCare was passed in Massachusetts, er usage rose 17%.....

...yet, the windbag in the White House claimed he took Romney's idea for ObamaCare....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your post is shit.

Where's the evidence that most liberals want to totally disarm the US?

Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully.

I'm merely trying to find the level at which you would debate the merits of your claims, since you obviously won't debate them at an adult level.

So....that's the way a Liberal apologizes?

 

[candycorn]

Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

"Let them die"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

"Let them die"

[Democrat] "GOV. LAMM ASSERTS ELDERLY, IF VERY ILL, HAVE 'DUTY TO DIE'"
GOV. LAMM ASSERTS ELDERLY, IF VERY ILL, HAVE 'DUTY TO DIE' - NYTimes.com

 

[peach174]

Liberals are what separated this nation from all other nations that came before (or have gone since) it's inception. It's what made and makes us unique in the world.

The difference is that liberals embrace the uniqueness of America and conservatives want us to be like every other nation.

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

They all ready exist and they are all over America.
The National Association of Free & Charitable Clinics

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Let's confine our discussion to the United States.

The only document that the people of the nation agreed to be governed by is the Constitution.
Article 1, section 8 enumerates the powers of the national government.

Which of the programs you've indicated are authorized by the above, or by an amendment to the Constitution, as, for example, income taxation was?

If not, why not?




BTW...
Your Napoleon quote is nonsense.....there is no perennial group known as 'the rich' in this nation.
The reference is a bête noire designed to focus the hate of the envious.

Seems you've fallen for it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Conservatives want a free market health care system.
Liberals are the one who passed a health care bill that is like every other nation.

Where does the poor person get healthcare in a free market healthcare system?

"Let them die"

Interesting that you've posted a quote from Democrat Lamm......

...Seems you've shot yourself in your own foot.