What's fundamentally wrong with America?

Well?

Obama promised to change us fundamentally, and liberals cheered.

So please tell me what's wrong, why it needs to be changed and why it's been fundamental.

The stigma of being on the government dole has changed with this guy. Now people are proud they dont have to work.
There's a lot of emotions when you loose your job; pride is not one of them. Unemployment pays only about 15% or 20% while it last and even with food stamps, that's not going to pay the bills for most families.

Just a question then. why did we have the 99 weekers? and were proud of it on the internet forums and then complained when companys started black balling them when future employers read on thier resume they didnt work for two years? It was an excuse for them take a two year vacation.
 
Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington, Adams, Chief Justice Marshall...and many more could not agree on things, yet somehow you think you know exactly what they didn't and struggled with?

and thats the problem their is no more madisons, jefferson, hamiltons and the rest. We are stuck with plelosi, reids, franks,obamas and the likes of boehner..... frickin idiots.

is English your second language?

again another jack ass who thinks spelling matters.... so can you debate me or just masterbate?
 
and thats the problem their is no more madisons, jefferson, hamiltons and the rest. We are stuck with plelosi, reids, franks,obamas and the likes of boehner..... frickin idiots.

is English your second language?

again another jack ass who thinks spelling matters.... so can you debate me or just masterbate?

you can't argue well or spell well? you poor baby:(
 
Well?

Obama promised to change us fundamentally, and liberals cheered.

So please tell me what's wrong, why it needs to be changed and why it's been fundamental.

context: 2008 what was wrong? seriously?

and please, link to a quote. one MUST be out there:eusa_whistle:

Obumer wasn't talking about ending the recession when he said he wanted to fundamentally transform America.
 
No opportunity. No incentive.

America is over. Get yourself some acreage and get the hell out of the cities.
 
What is fundamentally wrong with America is we can't see what's right because we are obsessed with what's wrong. We are the wealthiest nation on earth with an economy larger than the next three combined. We give twice as much to charity than any other country. We have the best universities and colleges in the world and if you have what it takes, you can attend without regard to gender, race, or class. We are number one in scientific research and have won more Nobel prizes than all other nations combined. But where we really shine compared to the rest of the world is in personal freedom and the rule of law.
 
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In a word: liberals

Their ideology built strictly on feelings and with disregard for all facts and information.

Liberals are a cancer that is destroying America. We need to find a cure for the cancer.
 
What's fundamentally wrong with America?

We allowed statists to throw out the Constitution.

Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington, Adams, Chief Justice Marshall...and many more could not agree on things, yet somehow you think you know exactly what they didn't and struggled with?

How does that make any sense? Where did DTMB say we had to agree on everything?

The reality is, we've allowed liberals (on BOTH sides of the aisle) to ignore the ultimate law of the land and do whatever the hell they wanted.
 
We allowed statists to throw out the Constitution.

Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington, Adams, Chief Justice Marshall...and many more could not agree on things, yet somehow you think you know exactly what they didn't and struggled with?

and thats the problem their is no more madisons, jefferson, hamiltons and the rest. We are stuck with plelosi, reids, franks,obamas and the likes of boehner..... frickin idiots.

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
Well?

Obama promised to change us fundamentally, and liberals cheered.

So please tell me what's wrong, why it needs to be changed and why it's been fundamental.

If you paid attention to what obama said, what was wrong was the fatally flawed Constitution.
 
and thats the problem their is no more madisons, jefferson, hamiltons and the rest. We are stuck with plelosi, reids, franks,obamas and the likes of boehner..... frickin idiots.

is English your second language?

again another jack ass who thinks spelling matters.... so can you debate me or just masterbate?

most liberals need a magnifying glass and tweezers for that task :up:
 
Read "Greedy Bastards" by Dylan Ratigan.

What is wrong with our country is the Greedy Bastards that inhabit just about every aspect of our nation....energy, trade, banking, healthcare, education and government/taxation.

It's a great read and it is very party neutral...both sides have their share of the blame and most of it revolves around campaign money.

Just an example...do you realize that the price we pay at the.pump for a gallon of gas is less than a third of the actual cost? Who.pays the other 2/3? Everybody...in the form of taxes....taxes to keep our.military ready to put out the "fires" in the middle East in order to keep things relatively stable, the cost of health care for folks.that have breathing issues.in our cities where the air quality is shitty.at times, let's not forget direct subsidation of both the oil industry and the the farming industry(ethanol) economists estimate the true cost for a gallon of regular unleaded to be between $10-15. If we were.paying that at the pump, there would be a revolution...but because.it's hidden from us, most don't even pay attention...unless it goes up a significant amount at the pump.....that's not to.mention that we are funding people who don't fucking like us.

Obviously...he goes into much greater detail than I can recall off the top of my head....but it's definitely worth the price.of admission.
 
So please tell me what's wrong, why it needs to be changed and why it's been fundamental.

The satellite, cellular and internet technology that makes profits possible across a variety of sectors was initially developed under the Cold War Pentagon and NASA budgets, at places like MIT and Stanford. If this is too abstract for you, imagine the technology required to put a man on the moon or a space rover on mars. This technology was developed by the state sector and handed to the private sector so they could develop it commercially and profit from it. (Glenn Beck doesn't mention stuff like this, but the real surprise is that he has listeners who don't notice. The Republican Party, which was captured by concentrated wealth, took a generation of well-meaning but under-educated conservative Americans and basically fucking lied to them. -and they also agitated them using the culture war so that these well meaning patriots would mistrust any liberal who tried to show them where (say) satellite technology came from (and who profits from it). That is, John Galt is no longer persecuted by government, like he was in the 30s and 40s, rather, he has turned government into his private subsidy and bailout machine. But, see, John Galt ain't stupid because he pays into the Republican message machine to lie about the fact that he not only profits from government, but owns it. Until we as a nation find a way to rescue conservative voters from this massive cloud of bullshit, we will continue to misread the fundamental problems facing America)

But it doesn't stop there. Government has provided more to the private sector than most people will ever realize. Indeed, research the relationship between government, Boeing and commercial aviation. Research the commercial benefits of the interstate system, or the fact that the Pentagon stabilizes global supply chains so that raw material, products, and capital can flow around the globe more efficiently.

When you're at it, research how dependent the southwest is on the Hoover Dam ... or the energy and water that FDR brought to parts of the rural south.

Point is that much of our economy depends on a partnership between government and the private sector. This is why all large corporations open large lobbying offices in Washington DC, so they can gain access to the public's considerable financial resources.

In the fifties and sixties, great Conservative centrists like Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon understood government's role in feeding technology and infrastructure to the private sector.

Reagan also understood government's role as part of the solution, but he played a very devious game. He unleashed a movement which would seek out the dumbest Americans in order to convince them that government did nothing to help profit. He did this to put downward pressure on the taxes of his wealthy and corporate donors. He wanted corporations to continue to enjoy government's fruits, but he didn't want them to have to pay for it. This is what lead to an endless cycle of growing and crippling deficits.

30 years of anti-government propaganda has destroyed government's ability to effectively support technological development, education and industrial infrastructure - or provide needed oversight in the financial sector. As a result, we have crumbling schools and bridges punctuated by terminal bailouts of the corporate crooks who own both parties. Oh, and China is eating our lunch as the US economy is being hollowed out by special interest monopolies in health care and energy. Rather than innovating and lowering prices, we have seen the opposite. Corporations now spend more on election funding & lobbying rather than R&D. Senators don't serve the common man; rather, they are just biding their time until them can move on to lucrative lobbying career. This is why Newt Gingrich was hired by Fannie/Freddie . . . he gave them access to lawmakers.

Ronald Reagan took the government which defeated the Nazis, put a man on the moon, and built the world's greatest infrastructure ... and he convinced morons that this same government couldn't run a laundromat (but it could rebuild the Arab world in our image). Again, well meaning conservative voters didn't see the contradiction, that is, they can't address the problem because they are kept in such a fog. "Get your government hands off my medicare"

Reagan made government so weak and corrupt that it was no match for the financial influence of the corporations which now own it.

What's wrong with the USA you say? The Republicans have raised a generation of voters to believe that government plays no role in economic growth.This great nation was built by a partnership between government and the private sector. The Republicans destroyed one half of that necessary partnership. The monopolies are safely in place and the game is over.
 
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