What's fundamentally wrong with America?

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    Well?

    Obama promised to change us fundamentally, and liberals cheered.

    So please tell me what's wrong, why it needs to be changed and why it's been fundamental.
     
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    context: 2008 what was wrong? seriously?

    and please, link to a quote. one MUST be out there:eusa_whistle:
     
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    What is fundamentally wrong with America is the same thing that is wrong with all countries...though we have a better handle on it than the rest...inspite of Obabble.
     
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    The stigma of being on the government dole has changed with this guy. Now people are proud they dont have to work.
     
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    Obama and his Left.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrefKCaV8m4]Obama: "Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America" Long Version - YouTube[/ame]

    for those that have been in a coma
     
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    How is welfare fundamental to the country?

    I'm not asking what pisses you off, I'm asking about the fundamentals
     
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    obama is not fundamental to America. He wants to change them, but he is not one.

    The 2 party system has become fundamental, and has brought ruin.
     
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    so the context was on the widening wealth gap? you deny it needed and still needs changing?
     
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    Yes they are, they are calling the shots.

    The best we can do is keep everything split until 2016.
     
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    Conservative reactionaryism, rightists fearful of change, diversity, and dissent.

    And their futile efforts to drag America back to an idealized past that never actually existed to begin with is detrimental to the Nation as a whole.
     
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    yup and read my signmature
     
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    Interesting now that you want to make it personal.Fundamentals? its hard for me to divide what pisses me off and give you an honest opinion.I just think we took a nose dive when Bill Clinton was president till now. I am getting older now and I think who we are electing in D.C. is getting more pathetic each year. it seems to me we are just getting dumber and more jaded every year.
     
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    We allowed statists to throw out the Constitution.
     
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    Partisan garbage. You're just as at fault as they are.
     
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    Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington, Adams, Chief Justice Marshall...and many more could not agree on things, yet somehow you think you know exactly what they didn't and struggled with?
     
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    There's a lot of emotions when you loose your job; pride is not one of them. Unemployment pays only about 15% or 20% of your take home pay while it last and even with food stamps, that's not going to pay the bills for most families.
     
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    and thats the problem their is no more madisons, jefferson, hamiltons and the rest. We are stuck with plelosi, reids, franks,obamas and the likes of boehner..... frickin idiots.
     
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    is English your second language?
     
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    Chairman Ben S. Bernanke
    At the 32nd General Conference of the International Association for Research in Income and Wealth, Cambridge, Massachusetts (via prerecorded video)
    August 6, 2012

    FRB: Speech--Bernanke, Economic Measurement--August 6, 2012

    Nobel Prize-winning economist, Paul Krugman spoke about this in his book "End This Depression Now"
     

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