"Whatever the Issue, the Rich Guys Win"

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    From William Greider's "The End of New Deal Liberalism":

    "Society faces dreadful prospects and profound transformation. When both parties are aligned with corporate power, who will stand up for the people?

    "Who will protect them from the insatiable appetites of capitalist enterprise and help them get through the hard passage ahead?

    "One thing we know for sure from history: there is no natural limit to what capitalism will seek in terms of power and profit.

    "If government does not stand up and apply the brakes, society is defenseless.

    "Strangely enough, this new reality brings us back to the future, posing fundamental questions about the relationship between capitalism and democracy that citizens and reformers asked 100 years ago.

    "Only this time, the nation is no longer an ascendant economic power.

    "It faces hard adjustments as general prosperity recedes and the broad middle class that labor and liberalism helped create is breaking apart...

    "One key dynamic of the twentieth century was the long- running contest for dominance between democracy and capitalism.

    "The balance of power shifted back and forth several times, driven by two basic forces that neither corporate lobbyists nor timid politicians could control: the calamitous events that disrupted the social order, such as war and depression, and the power of citizens mobilized in reaction to those events.

    "In those terms, both political parties are still highly vulnerable-as twentieth-century history repeatedly demonstrated, society cannot survive the burdens of an unfettered corporate order."

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    Government is an abject failure at making people equal.

    But no corporation is as wealthy or powerful as government.
     
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    Does Wall Street control government or vice versa?
     
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    Government allowed some Wall Street companies to fail and bailed out others.
     
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    Would you agree?

    "American democracy has been conclusively conquered by American capitalism.

    "Government has been disabled or captured by the formidable powers of private enterprise and concentrated wealth.

    "Self-governing rights that representative democracy conferred on citizens are now usurped by the overbearing demands of corporate and financial interests.

    "Collectively, the corporate sector has its arms around both political parties, the financing of political careers, the production of the policy agendas and propaganda of influential think tanks, and control of most major media."

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    What's wrong with being broke? I've been there and back several times.

    I climbed out of that shit without government.

    I don't need anyone standing up for me.

    And now? I donate to food pantries, homeless shelters, even St. Jude's Children's Hospital.

    And if tomorrow I'm once again broke, I could care less. Nothing scares me, nothing impresses me.

    Money and power? You can have it.
     
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    No, I don't agree. This administration, more than any other before it, decides which companies live and die and whose private property is rendered worthless. They do it under the guise of social, economic, and environmental imperatives.
     
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    That must be why Meg Whitman is now the governor of California.























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    If you were the victim of a mugging or car jacking would you call on government?

    Goldman Sachs is a much bigger threat to your health and future.
     
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    Dreadful prospects my ass. I'm a capitalist and I could be a pauper tomorrow because of it. No risk, no balls, no glory. Take the shit that's heaped upon you, brush it off, and move on.

    Goddamn bunch of pussy have-nots.
     
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