Whatever happened to "Republicans"???

[MaggieMae]

I was looking for a new poll I saw which indicates that only in the South do Republicans continue to attract potential voters based on their dramatic shift away from moderation. I can't find it, so this one will do. If the "new" Republicans (the reinvented conservative idealogues) intend to get their act together and start winning elections, they'd better hurry.

GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups

 

[Oddball]

What happened is that they appeased, capitulated, and caved to the left for so long, that they became indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from the left.

They ran exactly the kind of "moderate" presidential candidate all the leftists claim that republicans should run, and they still lost.

And I have yet to see any compelling sensory evidence, despite all the bluster from the left, that the GOP has shifted "hard right".

 

[Harry Dresden]

What happened is that they appeased, capitulated, and caved to the left for so long, that they became indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from the left.

They ran exactly the kind of "moderate" presidential candidate all the leftists claim that republicans should run, and they still lost.

And I have yet to see any compelling sensory evidence, despite all the bluster from the left, that the GOP has shifted "hard right".

back in the early nineties when i was a registered Dem.....i asked myself that same question about the Democrats.....what happened to you guys?....dont recognize ya anymore.....so left them and became an INDY and started thinking for myself.....have never looked back and now cant stand either party....

 

[Sarah G]

Dude, the Religious Right and the Neocon leadership are what happened to the Republican party.

They used to be the fiscal conservatives, they are nowhere to be found anymore. I actually liked them then. Now they are simply nutfringe loonies waiting around for someone to lead them toward some semblence of the party they used to be.

 

[Oddball]

I tend to disagree.

The media merely sticks its mics and points its cameras at the evangelical loons, in order to create a boogerman for people to fear and deride.

Remember that dumb twirp from CNN covering the tea parties, who was only seeking out the kookiest people she could find for her interviews??....You think that was the only place that kind of thing goes on??

 

[MaggieMae]

Dude, the Religious Right and the Neocon leadership are what happened to the Republican party.

They used to be the fiscal conservatives, they are nowhere to be found anymore. I actually liked them then. Now they are simply nutfringe loonies waiting around for someone to lead them toward some semblence of the party they used to be.

I couldn't have said it better, although I believe the Evangelical Movement now acknowledges that they temporarily forgot who Jesus was.

 

[sealybobo]

What happened is that they appeased, capitulated, and caved to the left for so long, that they became indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from the left.

They ran exactly the kind of "moderate" presidential candidate all the leftists claim that republicans should run, and they still lost.

And I have yet to see any compelling sensory evidence, despite all the bluster from the left, that the GOP has shifted "hard right".

No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?

 

[sealybobo]

I tend to disagree.

The media merely sticks its mics and points its cameras at the evangelical loons, in order to create a boogerman for people to fear and deride.

Remember that dumb twirp from CNN covering the tea parties, who was only seeking out the kookiest people she could find for her interviews??....You think that was the only place that kind of thing goes on??

Yea, you do tend to disagree, because you are in denial. The media was deregulated and purchased in the late 90's by mega corporations. Its now a tool for the GOP. Wake up.

Notice how the media doesn't go on and on about whether or not we should try the Bush team for torture? No sir! But they went two weeks talking about Pelosi. Trying to change the conversation/focus.

You don't see it because you tend to not want to see it.

 

[midcan5]

Maggie, there never was a clear political republican party. Without getting fancy and a bit tongue in cheek, I offer up that what was the so called unified republican party was a hodgepodge of fundies, one issue voters, anti gay, racists, capitalists pigs, crooks and robbers, corporate crooks, anti union, anti humanism, pro prayer in school, militant nutcases, and libertarian children from money with no sense of reality. You still see the last on Redstate, DP, USMB etc. Given this assortment of wackos is it any wonder they did not govern nor lead nor do anything very well? This group still exists as evident everyday right here, but there for a while they got some moderates to buy into their party of NO.

 

[Oddball]

No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?

Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

 

[midcan5]

Yea, you do tend to disagree, because you are in denial. The media was deregulated and purchased in the late 90's by mega corporations. Its now a tool for the GOP. Wake up.

Notice how the media doesn't go on and on about whether or not we should try the Bush team for torture? No sir! But they went two weeks talking about Pelosi. Trying to change the conversation/focus.

So true, notice coverage of issues that affect everywoman: poor wages, poverty, lack of jobs, poor or no healthcare, corporate outsourcing, the corporate owned media never covers tough issues. At least at one time, they covered tough issues but corporate ownership forced them all to play the game. If you don't play the game you are marginalized.

 

[Oddball]

So true, notice coverage of issues that affect everywoman: poor wages, poverty, lack of jobs, poor or no healthcare, corporate outsourcing, the corporate owned media never covers tough issues.At least at one time, they covered tough issues but corporate ownership forced them all to play the game. If you don't play the game you are marginalized.

You mean like corporate ownership of several cable and satellite outlets (GE/NBC/Universal) pimps for the anthropogenic global warming hoax, and overtly shilled for Barry Obolshevik during and after the election??

I can't imagine the shit attack socialist bedwetters would have, if Northrup-Grumman owned a score of teevee networks and had "pro war" week.

You've met the enemy, pal, and he is you.

 

[Oddball]

So true, notice coverage of issues that affect everywoman: poor wages, poverty, lack of jobs, poor or no healthcare, corporate outsourcing, the corporate owned media never covers tough issues.At least at one time, they covered tough issues but corporate ownership forced them all to play the game. If you don't play the game you are marginalized.

You mean like corporate ownership of several cable and satellite outlets (GE/NBC/Universal) pimps for the anthropogenic global warming hoax, socialized medical services, and overtly shilled for Barry Obolshevik during and after the election??

I can't imagine the shit attack socialist bedwetters would have, if Northrup-Grumman owned a score of teevee networks and had "pro war" week.

You've met the enemy, pal, and he is you.

 

[Sarah G]

I tend to disagree.

The media merely sticks its mics and points its cameras at the evangelical loons, in order to create a boogerman for people to fear and deride.

Remember that dumb twirp from CNN covering the tea parties, who was only seeking out the kookiest people she could find for her interviews??....You think that was the only place that kind of thing goes on??

The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.

 

[sealybobo]

No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?

Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

Social Security

 

[Oddball]

The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.

The same thing happens with libertarians.

Rather than pay attention to the sensible and reasonable, like John Stossel or Ed Thompson (the brother of former WI governor Tommy), media types focus on the moonbats, like troofers.

Claiming that the policies of the last 10 years or so are "radical", when they've more resembled the policies of far left radicals like LBJ, is an interesting claim....Especially when we're talking about republicans here.

Claiming that the dems have found "leadership" in the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Paxiolsi is laughable, at best.

 

[sealybobo]

No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?

Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

If you listened to CNN radio or NPR or Air America the last 8 years, you would have heard stories all the time about about how the GOP cut funding to many many social programs.

I can't believe you would even ask.

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Should I continue?

 

[del]

No one's buying this. What happened is that they finally got full control of government and they did exactly what they always wanted.

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.
Break government so they could end social programs for the poor
Launch a war in the middle east, disaster capitalism.

And the Robber Baron's gobbled up all the $. Did they go too far? Hell no. Heck, you don't even realize they did it. You're stilll blaming the government.

In business, there are always winners and losers. So, who won? When your 401K took a dump and Walllstreet collapsed, where did all that money go? Who won?

The bankers won. And you still side with the GOP who helped the bankers fuck us.

Are the Dems angels? No, but they are way better than the GOP.

You don't make enough money to be a Republican. Do you understand that?

Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

Social Security

that's not a program for the poor.
try again, bozo.

 

[sealybobo]

The problem then is the LMSM? I don't know about that.

The wingnuts tend to get their own crazy muggs on any camera they can find. It's the radical policies of the past 10 years or so. News media do shove the mics in the faces of the weirdest people there but that isn't what completely killed the Republicans dead.

The Dems were almost dead there for awhile but they found leadership and policies they could believe in and more they were policies America could get behind.

The same thing happens with libertarians.

Rather than pay attention to the sensible and reasonable, like John Stossel or Ed Thompson (the brother of former WI governor Tommy), media types focus on the moonbats, like troofers.

Claiming that the policies of the last 10 years or so are "radical", when they've more resembled the policies of far left radicals like LBJ, is an interesting claim....Especially when we're talking about republicans here.

Claiming that the dems have found "leadership" in the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Paxiolsi is laughable, at best.

Better than Tom Delay, Boehner, Newt, Dennis Hastert.

You guys will bash them, but look how many seats they picked up this year. Are you jealous? Hater!!

 

[sealybobo]

Don't mistake your imbecilic opinions for those of "everyone".

Name just one program for the sainted poooooooooooor, in eight years, that republicans moved to shut down.

Just one.

Social Security

that's not a program for the poor.
try again, bozo.

Yes it is.

It certainly isn't for the rich.