What would a decisive battle look like in a 2nd American Civil War?

[The2ndAmendment]

If we take into account 300,000,000 modern firearms, entire armies of defectors, even great swathes of air power, combined with "domestic espionage" and other forms of cyber warfare.

Would a decisive battle look more like Stalingrad in WWII or Falluhjah today?

Would it even be fought in an urban region, or would it be fought along the plumbing/aqueducts/highways leading to urban regions?


How long could urban populations survive with entire highways and railways permanently blocked?

How much of a role would espionage play (moles and plants lying/fabricating/destroying satellite data, jamming protected frequencies and internal networks, and just plain stealing information). How would the tyrannical government react to this rampant espionage? Would they be able to trust anyone?

 

[konradv]

You're living in a fantasy world. Any attempts such as you envision would be overwhelmed by the majority that consider it treason.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You're living in a fantasy world. Any attempts such as you envision would be overwhelmed by the majority that consider it treason.

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

 

[rightwinger]

The decisive battle in the upcoming Civil War

 

[Discombobulated]

If we take into account 300,000,000 modern firearms, entire armies of defectors, even great swathes of air power, combined with "domestic espionage" and other forms of cyber warfare.

Would a decisive battle look more like Stalingrad in WWII or Falluhjah today?

Would it even be fought in an urban region, or would it be fought along the plumbing/aqueducts/highways leading to urban regions?


How long could urban populations survive with entire highways and railways permanently blocked?

How much of a role would espionage play (moles and plants lying/fabricating/destroying satellite data, jamming protected frequencies and internal networks, and just plain stealing information). How would the tyrannical government react to this rampant espionage? Would they be able to trust anyone?

Second Amendment issues have great potential to rip this country apart. Most people were surprised by the Civil War when it happened, few people believed the political impasse would lead to war. We ignore history to our peril.

 

[Discombobulated]

The decisive battle in the upcoming Civil War

Liberals often don't get the point because they seem to believe they are on the right side of history. Being on the right side won't matter if our political system can't find a way to compromise.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Another thread where 2ndAmendment fantasizes about killing American citizens...

 

[westwall]

If we take into account 300,000,000 modern firearms, entire armies of defectors, even great swathes of air power, combined with "domestic espionage" and other forms of cyber warfare.

Would a decisive battle look more like Stalingrad in WWII or Falluhjah today?

Would it even be fought in an urban region, or would it be fought along the plumbing/aqueducts/highways leading to urban regions?


How long could urban populations survive with entire highways and railways permanently blocked?

How much of a role would espionage play (moles and plants lying/fabricating/destroying satellite data, jamming protected frequencies and internal networks, and just plain stealing information). How would the tyrannical government react to this rampant espionage? Would they be able to trust anyone?

There won't be one. If that dread day comes there will be a never ending series of small battles that will last years until a dictatorship is installed and the purges begin. Then, after a few tens of millions are dead the country will reset. Hopefully, it will be a benevolent tyrant who takes over.

 

[rightwinger]

The decisive battle in the upcoming Civil War

Liberals often don't get the point because they seem to believe they are on the right side of history. Being on the right side won't matter if our political system can't find a way to compromise.

Americans are fat and lazy.......they will not turn out for the great Conservative rebellion against our country

 

[Nutz]

You're living in a fantasy world. Any attempts such as you envision would be overwhelmed by the majority that consider it treason.

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

 

[Discombobulated]

The decisive battle in the upcoming Civil War

Liberals often don't get the point because they seem to believe they are on the right side of history. Being on the right side won't matter if our political system can't find a way to compromise.

Americans are fat and lazy.......they will not turn out for the great Conservative rebellion against our country

When the President was reelected polls showed that up to 25% of the electorate in some states favored secession. What do you suppose would happen if there were to be an actual Constitutional crisis?

 

[rightwinger]

You're living in a fantasy world. Any attempts such as you envision would be overwhelmed by the majority that consider it treason.

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

 

[Discombobulated]

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

You assume the scenario would play out exactly the way you envision. You assume too much.

 

[rightwinger]

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

You assume the scenario would play out exactly the way you envision. You assume too much.

Do you assume that soldiers will support your cause once you kill one of their buddies?

 

[Discombobulated]

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

You assume the scenario would play out exactly the way you envision. You assume too much.

Do you assume that soldiers will support your cause once you kill one of their buddies?

My cause? Which cause is that? Now you sound just as stupid as the rednecks you despise.

 

[rightwinger]

You assume the scenario would play out exactly the way you envision. You assume too much.

Do you assume that soldiers will support your cause once you kill one of their buddies?

My cause? Which cause is that? Now you sound just as stupid as the rednecks you despise.

You know very well which cause

The one where you refuse to belong to an America that finds your conservative views to be repulsive

 

[Discombobulated]

Do you assume that soldiers will support your cause once you kill one of their buddies?

My cause? Which cause is that? Now you sound just as stupid as the rednecks you despise.

You know very well which cause

The one where you refuse to belong to an America that finds your conservative views to be repulsive

I have no idea what that means and you have no idea what my views are. I'll tell you this much though, I view any and all political ideology as a refuge for weak minded fools.

 

[guno]

If we take into account 300,000,000 modern firearms, entire armies of defectors, even great swathes of air power, combined with "domestic espionage" and other forms of cyber warfare.

Would a decisive battle look more like Stalingrad in WWII or Falluhjah today?

Would it even be fought in an urban region, or would it be fought along the plumbing/aqueducts/highways leading to urban regions?


How long could urban populations survive with entire highways and railways permanently blocked?

How much of a role would espionage play (moles and plants lying/fabricating/destroying satellite data, jamming protected frequencies and internal networks, and just plain stealing information). How would the tyrannical government react to this rampant espionage? Would they be able to trust anyone?

Long Island would be dead meat , not to many ways off the Island and not a lot of guns

 

[guno]

You're living in a fantasy world. Any attempts such as you envision would be overwhelmed by the majority that consider it treason.

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

Strange thing is there are not many woods left on Long Island , If he wants to fight why doesn't he join the military , that's the question

 

[007]

The majority has never mattered in any Civil War in history, because 90% of the population doesn't take sides or get involved.

And that is exactly the point. You and your cohorts will be fighting a trained army and trained police. You fantasize that all of the American soldiers, who pledged an oath to uphold the Constitution, will defect to your side...you fantasize that whole brigades and divisions will be on the side of wanna be rednecks. You think playing in the woods in preparation for URBAN warfare gives you a fighting chance. You think the evil government will just allow you to cut off cities...you think citizens of those cities will allow you to cut them off and they will gladly go without food, water and electricity in the name of your noble cause.

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

The first soldier that shoots an American citizen will unleash the fury of every armed citizen against the military.

The armed citizens of America are the third largest, armed standing army on the face of the earth. There isn't a force big enough to win a war against them. That's what scares the fuck otta libroids, and why they're so rabid about disarming law abiding citizens. Just like the movie "War Games" where total thermonuclear warfare was waged and NOTHING was left, would be the only scenario, and in that scenario, NO ONE wins.