What the founding fathers didn’t know.

Totally wrong. The federal government took the Constitution written in 1789 and tossed it out the window a long time ago. Almost all of our problems are the result of not following the Constitution as it was written.



WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems. A population explosion plus 20 million illegal aliens. A welfare system to take care of our elderly, poor and disabled since we no longer take care of our own and chickens and corn do not pay the bills. We did not pay foreign countries to be our friends.

The constitution of the 1700s cannot deal with the problem we have today. The constitution is like the old covenant that GOD had with the Jews that become obsolete because a new covenant was needed. We need a new constitution to deal with a new set of problems.

The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them and stand in the way of progress.

The constitution was written by a group of old white men for white men and not even white women and blacks were not even considered.
 
What the founding fathers didn’t know.

That religious fanaticism would (actually) be considered a Plus, in the Future.​

April 2, 2012

Tom, Andy & J.C.

"If you go to the second floor of the National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C., you’ll find a small room containing an 18th-century Bible whose pages are full of holes. They are carefully razor-cut empty spaces, so this was not an act of vandalism. It was, rather, a project begun by Thomas Jefferson when he was a mere 27 years old. Painstakingly removing those passages he thought reflected the actual teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, Jefferson literally cut and pasted them into a slimmer, different New Testament, and left behind the remnants (all on display until July 15). What did he edit out? He told us: “We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus.” He removed what he felt were the “misconceptions” of Jesus’ followers, “expressing unintelligibly for others what they had not understood themselves.” And it wasn’t hard for him. He described the difference between the real Jesus and the evangelists’ embellishments as “diamonds” in a “dunghill,” glittering as “the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man.” Yes, he was calling vast parts of the Bible religious manure.

The Catholic Church’s hierarchy lost much of its authority over the American flock with the unilateral prohibition of the pill in 1968 by Pope Paul VI. But in the last decade, whatever shred of moral authority that remained has evaporated.

For their part, the mainline Protestant churches, which long promoted religious moderation, have rapidly declined in the past 50 years. Evangelical Protestantism has stepped into the vacuum, but it has serious defects of its own.

As New York Times columnist Ross Douthat explores in his unsparing new book, Bad Religion: How We Became a Nation of Heretics, many suburban evangelicals embrace a gospel of prosperity, which teaches that living a Christian life will make you successful and rich. Others defend a rigid biblical literalism, adamantly wishing away a century and a half of scholarship that has clearly shown that the canonized Gospels were written decades after Jesus’ ministry, and are copies of copies of stories told by those with fallible memory. Still others insist that the earth is merely 6,000 years old—something we now know by the light of reason and science is simply untrue. And what group of Americans have pollsters found to be most supportive of torturing terror suspects? Evangelical Christians. Something has gone very wrong. These are impulses born of panic in the face of modernity, and fear before an amorphous “other.” This version of Christianity could not contrast more strongly with Jesus’ constant refrain: “Be not afraid.” It would make Jefferson shudder."
 
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WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.
When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems
Yes, they did.

That's why they included a process to amend the Constitution, and added the 10th amendment; in doing so they left us with all the tools necessary for an effective government, regarless of the time and the needs.

You people just kill me.
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Everything's going to be alright. The Constitution is genius, and so are the precedents we're workig with now.Blacks and women are now people, thank god.

But we need health reform, it's constitutional, despite what the most partisan, bought off RW Supremes ever say. Luckily, Kennedy is a gentleman and a scholar.
 
WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems. A population explosion plus 20 million illegal aliens. A welfare system to take care of our elderly, poor and disabled since we no longer take care of our own and chickens and corn do not pay the bills. We did not pay foreign countries to be our friends.

The constitution of the 1700s cannot deal with the problem we have today. The constitution is like the old covenant that GOD had with the Jews that become obsolete because a new covenant was needed. We need a new constitution to deal with a new set of problems.

The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them and stand in the way of progress.

The constitution was written by a group of old white men for white men and not even white women and blacks were not even considered.

Oh whatever... go live in fucking Cuba if that's the system you want you stupid Marxist fuckstick.
 
WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know...

maybe the most idiotic thread ever.

good gawd, cut this idiot's internet service

First off.. a simple Google search would have told her that the average age of the signers was 45. As for the rest of it... what utter hogwash.
 
WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems. A population explosion plus 20 million illegal aliens. A welfare system to take care of our elderly, poor and disabled since we no longer take care of our own and chickens and corn do not pay the bills. We did not pay foreign countries to be our friends.

The constitution of the 1700s cannot deal with the problem we have today. The constitution is like the old covenant that GOD had with the Jews that become obsolete because a new covenant was needed. We need a new constitution to deal with a new set of problems.

The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them and stand in the way of progress.

The constitution was written by a group of old white men for white men and not even white women and blacks were not even considered.

Just another ignorant post presented by another follower of statism that fails to comprehend the essence of the blueprint and freedoms it provides the citizens of this country. But heck, if your that fucking rich, or that dirt poor, or simply unwilling to work, I can understand your lack of understanding. It is after all kind of complicated to understand for those that fail to understand the concept of simplicity equates to clarity. Warning, mess with what remains of our contract with this bloated government then be prepared to pay the ultimate price.
 
The Constitution specifically divides power to place checks and balances on human nature. Has human nature changed in the last 200 years? What exactly has changed that we need to address differently?

There is an amendment process specifically to address anything the Founders had not addressed. Why is that inadequate to deal with these new problems you havent identified?
 
WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems. A population explosion plus 20 million illegal aliens. A welfare system to take care of our elderly, poor and disabled since we no longer take care of our own and chickens and corn do not pay the bills. We did not pay foreign countries to be our friends.

The constitution of the 1700s cannot deal with the problem we have today. The constitution is like the old covenant that GOD had with the Jews that become obsolete because a new covenant was needed. We need a new constitution to deal with a new set of problems.

The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them and stand in the way of progress.

The constitution was written by a group of old white men for white men and not even white women and blacks were not even considered.

What the founders did know is that there would be people like you who want to destroy that document based on entitlement mentalities. Luckily, they built in fail safe methods and checks and balances to prevent that from occurring.
 
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How could've the Founding Fathers have foreseen mutated nervous system's like LilOLadys' posting on a political message board over something called the internet centuries later?
 
What the founders did know is that there would be people like you who want to destroy that document based on entitlement mentalities. Luckily, they built in fail safe methods and checks and balances to prevent that from occurring.

Yup. Most of them didn't things would last this long. Revolution!
 
Throw out the Constitution along with the federal government. Unfortunately, many Americans love the idea of being ruled by a father figure and his 535 children. It gives them a sense of pleasure and freedom.
 
Throw out the Constitution along with the federal government. Unfortunately, many Americans love the idea of being ruled by a father figure and his 535 children. It gives them a sense of pleasure and freedom.

Replacing it with what exactly?
 
WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DIDN’T KNOW.

When the founding fathers wrote the constitution in 1776 the did not know that in 2011 we would be living in a whole new world with different set of problems. A population explosion plus 20 million illegal aliens. A welfare system to take care of our elderly, poor and disabled since we no longer take care of our own and chickens and corn do not pay the bills. We did not pay foreign countries to be our friends.

The constitution of the 1700s cannot deal with the problem we have today. The constitution is like the old covenant that GOD had with the Jews that become obsolete because a new covenant was needed. We need a new constitution to deal with a new set of problems.

The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them and stand in the way of progress.

The constitution was written by a group of old white men for white men and not even white women and blacks were not even considered.
The states can call a constitution convention to update the constitution as needed, however with the Right and and Left unable to agree on much of anything, little would be accomplished.
 
The Constitution specifically divides power to place checks and balances on human nature. Has human nature changed in the last 200 years? What exactly has changed that we need to address differently?
The Constitution doesn’t specifically establish the doctrine of checks and balances, it’s a logical inference predicated on the Constitution’s construction and understanding of the principle of judicial review by the Framers during the Foundation Era and earlier. The issue isn’t whether or not human nature has changed, but the fact that governments and society change, evolve, and progress over time, and the need to ensure that adequate restriction is placed on governments to protect individual liberty:

"Had those who drew and ratified the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth Amendment or the Fourteenth Amendment known the components of liberty in its manifold possibilities, they might have been more specific. They did not presume to have this insight. They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress. As the Constitution endures, persons in every generation can invoke its principles in their own search for greater freedom.” Justice Anthony Kennedy, Lawrence v. Texas (2003)

There is an amendment process specifically to address anything the Founders had not addressed. Why is that inadequate to deal with these new problems you havent identified?

As the Constitution exists only in the context of its case law, the process of judicial review is the most appropriate and effective means of addressing issues and conflicts that enter the Federal courts. To address such issues with the ‘amendment process’ would have required thousands of ‘amendments’ over the last 200 years, rendering the Constitution useless.

The Constitution is a document of law, conceived of by men who understood and respected the law, designed to function in a Republic whose citizens are subject only to the rule of law.

The states can call a constitution convention to update the constitution as needed, however with the Right and and Left unable to agree on much of anything, little would be accomplished.

One can easily imagine what an unmitigated disaster that would be.
 
Everything's going to be alright. The Constitution is genius, and so are the precedents we're workig with now.Blacks and women are now people, thank god.

But we need health reform, it's constitutional, despite what the most partisan, bought off RW Supremes ever say. Luckily, Kennedy is a gentleman and a scholar.

And because he's smart, the ACA is toast.

It's to bad Obama isn't a scholar.

And it is to bad you are a moron.
 
The reason we have so many problems today be because we try to apply the 1776 constitution to today’s problems and it don’t work. There are most who are stuck in 1776 and want us all stuck with them....

7/10/2012

"It’s a glorified game of connect-the-dots, where people like Barton pull references out of their backsides to suit their own aim, their own agenda, to create a tapestry of lies, to fool the masses."


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