Asclepias
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I'm sorry but you should have read that 3 or 4 times before posting that. Do you honestly expect everyone that cant get a job to start a business? Where would they get the funding for startup? Where would they be able to purchase a preexisting business?If there are not enough jobs for everyone, a viable alternative is to be a job creator. Become a business owner, hire people, and try to make a profit. It would change your perspective and you would probably become a Republican voter when you find out how hard democrats have made it for business startups to succeed.Again a good theory but you miss what I previously said. There simply are not enough good jobs for everyone. Even if everyone did everything they could do, were able to overcome racism, handicaps, and were employable there simply are not enough jobs that can support a family to go around. Also you keep forgetting their has to be the concept of the have and have nots for capitalism to work.There are, and always will be, people that truly NEED help to survive and thrive, and I have no problem with society creating a true safety net for those people. For everyone else, we need more of a trampoline than a net. IOW, temporary assistance to get back on your feet instead of a permanent snare of dependence.Same here. That's why I long ago transitioned away from code development into database administration. I have to find ways to justify my higher salary by providing more value to the company.Because most logical thinking people realize the industrial age is over. Jobs that can comfortably support a family are less in number. The capitalistic system requires that there be have nots. Have nots are the ones trying to achieve social status and are easy to market to.
There is an excellent book regarding this subject written by a Black man that owned a marketing company and the book is targeted towards Blacks.
https://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-Challenging-Myth-Black-Inferiority/dp/1401925928&tag=ff0d01-20
Anyway, If the social safety net is not expanded you are going to have people that drop out of society and thats always dangerous. These people will prey on the haves. Until there is a way to make sure everyone has money to spend and people are educated welfare is the best option until people can be transitioned into the information age. In my field all the people that are being employed are people from overseas like India and China. They cost less for the companies to pay. Its actually sad how much they are paid vs what an american would make.
The BIG problem with not only maintaining, but expanding, the welfare state is that it will NEVER go away because once people become dependent, they demand more, not less. Your prescription is akin to satisfying a heroin addict's demands for more heroin instead of making him go through painful withdrawal so he can be independent of the stuff.
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So what do you do with the people that cant find a job that supports a family comfortably? So far I havent heard any intelligent answers that dont include welfare and training.
And, I dispute the need to "support a family comfortably". I'm talking about basic survival, not comfort. The poor in our country often live like the wealthy of many countries.
I dont believe in comparing apples to oranges or worrying about what is happening in other countries. The standard of living in this country is the issue. I dont believe in saying that since there are people in Korea that live worse than someone in the hood does here then thats ok. Its not because its all relative to their reality.