What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless...

[CrusaderFrank]

Sooooooo, is Michelle Obama more discriminated against because she's black or a man?

 

[IM2]

If we want to end racism, aren't we striving for a society in which race is meaningless?

Shhhh. . . . . .


WE want to end it.

This professor and the ruling elites of all colors, ethnicities, creeds, sexualities want the caste system to remain however, it benefits them to have us at each others throats. If racism ended, well hell, their positions of power would be threatened, and shit, this woman would be out of a job, wouldn't she?

No you don't' want to end it. You don't know what ending it will take. And you aren't willing to do what needs to be done to erase the inequality created by 400 years of racism.

Neither do you.

Yes I do.

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

 

[MisterBeale]

Shhhh. . . . . .


WE want to end it.

This professor and the ruling elites of all colors, ethnicities, creeds, sexualities want the caste system to remain however, it benefits them to have us at each others throats. If racism ended, well hell, their positions of power would be threatened, and shit, this woman would be out of a job, wouldn't she?

No you don't' want to end it. You don't know what ending it will take. And you aren't willing to do what needs to be done to erase the inequality created by 400 years of racism.

Neither do you.

Yes I do.

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

 

[IM2]

No you don't' want to end it. You don't know what ending it will take. And you aren't willing to do what needs to be done to erase the inequality created by 400 years of racism.

Neither do you.

Yes I do.

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

 

[MisterBeale]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

It is in the metrics.

You know all those government and institutional forms where they ask a person their race?

They then have statisticians crunch the numbers and compare different groups of people to see how different segments of society are doing so the elites can play the divide and conquer game on every one.

If everyone refused to answer those questions, or they just didn't ask them, then the elites would not be able to create this sense of rage.

Instead, we would have to use anecdotal evidence, and observations of unfairness, which, to most of us, is what is REAL, and something that we can analyze and take action on.

These are the things we can agree on.

It angers me to no end when a police chief, admissions officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or who ever, is caught making important life changing decisions based solely on race, and then that person is given just a two week suspension, but then put right back to work at their original job.

THAT should infuriate us all.

But it happens, over and over and over.

 

[MisterBeale]

Neither do you.

Yes I do.

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

 

[IM2]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

It is in the metrics.

You know all those government and institutional forms where they ask a person their race?

They then have statisticians crunch the numbers and compare different groups of people to see how different segments of society are doing so the elites can play the divide and conquer game on every one.

If everyone refused to answer those questions, or they just didn't ask them, then the elites would not be able to create this sense of rage.

Instead, we would have to use anecdotal evidence, and observations of unfairness, which, to most of us, is what is REAL, and something that we can analyze and take action on.

These are the things we can agree on.

It angers me to no end when a police chief, admissions officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or who ever, is caught making important life changing decisions based solely on race, and then that person is given just a two week suspension, but then put right back to work at their original job.

THAT should infuriate us all.

But it happens, over and over and over.

When do whites like you get it through your heads that you really have no right to complain about things being decided by race? For all 242 years of this nation,188 of it by written law, whites created a system that made race an issue. Now because whites have to compete and don't get everything, race now is unfair and we need to just stop considering race.

You fail miserably to understand this. If we went colorblind tomorrow, whites would have all the advantages that you would say was based on merit because of the advantages they gave themselves because of race. So until whites are wiling to fix the damage they created we just can't drop race. This is why I say whites are not prepared, willing, or understand what takes to end racism.

 

[IM2]

Yes I do.

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

I don't need to create a poll in this forum asking the questions you suggest. I already know the answers. I know the true state of race relations. I know the attitudes of the majority of the white people here in this section. You and those like you need to take advantage of all the information out there that would provide you with the knowledge you need to learn to know just how much work we must do.

And understand that I might have had more extensive experience in both communities than you. I'm black grew up in a town that was 90 percent white. I lived in cities that were majorly white. I've worked umpteen jobs being the only black. I was on sports teams as the only black. I was married to a white woman and have lived in the suburbs with whites. Why whites like you think you can lecture us makes me laugh. We do not live isolated from whites.

Last, we are not concerned with what the majority race is looking for. We all live in the American culture so dump the racist bullshit that separate cultures to continue believing in white supremacy. It is fake news for us to blame ourselves when the system made by whites caused the problem. Those who think like you in the majority need to face that.

Because as you look at our overall history we have taken plenty off ownership. When will the majority race do the same?

 

[MisterBeale]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

It is in the metrics.

You know all those government and institutional forms where they ask a person their race?

They then have statisticians crunch the numbers and compare different groups of people to see how different segments of society are doing so the elites can play the divide and conquer game on every one.

If everyone refused to answer those questions, or they just didn't ask them, then the elites would not be able to create this sense of rage.

Instead, we would have to use anecdotal evidence, and observations of unfairness, which, to most of us, is what is REAL, and something that we can analyze and take action on.

These are the things we can agree on.

It angers me to no end when a police chief, admissions officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or who ever, is caught making important life changing decisions based solely on race, and then that person is given just a two week suspension, but then put right back to work at their original job.

THAT should infuriate us all.

But it happens, over and over and over.

When do whites like you get it through your heads that you really have no right to complain about things being decided by race? For all 242 years of this nation,188 of it by written law, whites created a system that made race an issue. Now because whites have to compete and don't get everything, race now is unfair and we need to just stop considering race.

You fail miserably to understand this. If we went colorblind tomorrow, whites would have all the advantages that you would say was based on merit because of the advantages they gave themselves because of race. So until whites are wiling to fix the damage they created we just can't drop race. This is why I say whites are not prepared, willing, or understand what takes to end racism.

. . and I have been trying to tell you, YOU don't understand the human character, mind, soul, and human societies. The minute you start implementing programs of force by the government to do something like that, it will have the precise opposite affect you want, on both the in-group AND the out group.

 

[MisterBeale]

I want it to end, I have done my part.

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

I don't need to create a poll in this forum asking the questions you suggest. I already know the answers. I know the true state of race relations. I know the attitudes of the majority of the white people here in this section. You and those like you need to take advantage of all the information out there that would provide you with the knowledge you need to learn to know just how much work we must do.

And understand that I might have had more extensive experience in both communities than you. I'm black grew up in a town that was 90 percent white. I lived in cities that were majorly white. I've worked umpteen jobs being the only black. I was on sports teams as the only black. I was married to a white woman and have lived in the suburbs with whites. Why whites like you think you can lecture us makes me laugh. We do not live isolated from whites.

Last, we are not concerned with what the majority race is looking for. We all live in the American culture so dump the racist bullshit that separate cultures to continue believing in white supremacy. It is fake news for us to blame ourselves when the system made by whites caused the problem. Those who think like you in the majority need to face that.

Because as you look at our overall history we have taken plenty off ownership. When will the majority race do the same?

I think you are afraid of what you might find. You just might find you are ignorant and your ideas are based on your own ignorance. Perhaps folks already know that both communities are being oppressed by the exact same problem, a problem you don't want to face, because it is too painful of a reality.

Of course a "system made by whites" caused the problem, but it wasn't made by whites just to benefit whites. That is not what you are getting. It was made by whites to benefit those who rule. There have been and are blacks in the ruling class, and nothing changes. YOU KNOW this... . but you care not.

Blacks on the Supreme Court, as Sec. of Defense, of State, as President, Blacks in fortune 500 companies, but nothing changes. . hmmmmm I wonder why?


Oh I know, b/c what I am saying is wrong, and what you are saying is right? Bullshit.

It has nothing to do with rank and file members of the population at this point. No amount of "raising awareness" or "increasing education" will ever help the problem. Nor will "reparations," that will just piss some people off, while giving free hand out to folks that would piss away entitlements at commercial establishments with no knowledge of how to invest it, it would cause ill will between different communities with out really addressing any real problems. IOW, it will just make the problems worse.

If you don't know this, you have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

 

[IM2]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

It is in the metrics.

You know all those government and institutional forms where they ask a person their race?

They then have statisticians crunch the numbers and compare different groups of people to see how different segments of society are doing so the elites can play the divide and conquer game on every one.

If everyone refused to answer those questions, or they just didn't ask them, then the elites would not be able to create this sense of rage.

Instead, we would have to use anecdotal evidence, and observations of unfairness, which, to most of us, is what is REAL, and something that we can analyze and take action on.

These are the things we can agree on.

It angers me to no end when a police chief, admissions officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or who ever, is caught making important life changing decisions based solely on race, and then that person is given just a two week suspension, but then put right back to work at their original job.

THAT should infuriate us all.

But it happens, over and over and over.

When do whites like you get it through your heads that you really have no right to complain about things being decided by race? For all 242 years of this nation,188 of it by written law, whites created a system that made race an issue. Now because whites have to compete and don't get everything, race now is unfair and we need to just stop considering race.

You fail miserably to understand this. If we went colorblind tomorrow, whites would have all the advantages that you would say was based on merit because of the advantages they gave themselves because of race. So until whites are wiling to fix the damage they created we just can't drop race. This is why I say whites are not prepared, willing, or understand what takes to end racism.

. . and I have been trying to tell you, YOU don't understand the human character, mind, soul, and human societies. The minute you start implementing programs of force by the government to do something like that, it will have the precise opposite affect you want, on both the in-group AND the out group.

I do understand the human character, mind, soul, and human societies. I know the US government implemented a program by force based on white racial preference and white supremacy. Seems you don't want to understand that. Such is the character, mind and soul of those who have benefited from that system.

 

[IM2]

No, you have not. And you will not.

Because you'd have nothing if you actually had to compete.

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

I don't need to create a poll in this forum asking the questions you suggest. I already know the answers. I know the true state of race relations. I know the attitudes of the majority of the white people here in this section. You and those like you need to take advantage of all the information out there that would provide you with the knowledge you need to learn to know just how much work we must do.

And understand that I might have had more extensive experience in both communities than you. I'm black grew up in a town that was 90 percent white. I lived in cities that were majorly white. I've worked umpteen jobs being the only black. I was on sports teams as the only black. I was married to a white woman and have lived in the suburbs with whites. Why whites like you think you can lecture us makes me laugh. We do not live isolated from whites.

Last, we are not concerned with what the majority race is looking for. We all live in the American culture so dump the racist bullshit that separate cultures to continue believing in white supremacy. It is fake news for us to blame ourselves when the system made by whites caused the problem. Those who think like you in the majority need to face that.

Because as you look at our overall history we have taken plenty off ownership. When will the majority race do the same?

I think you are afraid of what you might find. You just might find you are ignorant and your ideas are based on your own ignorance. Perhaps folks already know that both communities are being oppressed by the exact same problem, a problem you don't want to face, because it is too painful of a reality.

Of course a "system made by whites" caused the problem, but it wasn't made by whites just to benefit whites. That is not what you are getting. It was made by whites to benefit those who rule. There have been and are blacks in the ruling class, and nothing changes. YOU KNOW this... . but you care not.

Blacks on the Supreme Court, as Sec. of Defense, of State, as President, Blacks in fortune 500 companies, but nothing changes. . hmmmmm I wonder why?


Oh I know, b/c what I am saying is wrong, and what you are saying is right? Bullshit.

It has nothing to do with rank and file members of the population at this point. No amount of "raising awareness" or "increasing education" will ever help the problem. Nor will "reparations," that will just piss some people off, while giving free hand out to folks that would piss away entitlements at commercial establishments with no knowledge of how to invest it, it would cause ill will between different communities with out really addressing any real problems. IOW, it will just make the problems worse.

If you don't know this, you have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

The system was made by whites and for the benefits of whites. That's a fact.

Your post is pathetic. I've worked 30 years in the black community and your ass is wrong. I know what I'm talking about. I've seen the issues and causes. l studied and faced the problem and created ways that have helped reduce them. Have you?

I doubt it.

Until dumb opinionated whites like you stop the fact less remarks about things you know nothing about, the work that needs to be done to fix the racist system whites created, won't be done. You post the same dumb ass small minded white racist bullshit about what you think we don't know and how anything we ask for will piss off whites like that matters. Whites like you need to understand that we don't give a fuck if you get mad. You need to know that we have been pissed for a long time, almost 4 centuries to be exact. And we are not the only ones. So what those like you should do is shut your mouths and listen. We know better than you what the cause of the problems are for us and what we need to do. And if you continue your arrogance in 15 years when your asses are a minority, you will listen or you will be moved to the back of he bus.

And there won't be a damn thing you can do to stop it.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MizMolly]

My question for the OP and the woman in this video and others like them is: Why is it never enough for a white person to just not be racist?

It is in the metrics.

You know all those government and institutional forms where they ask a person their race?

They then have statisticians crunch the numbers and compare different groups of people to see how different segments of society are doing so the elites can play the divide and conquer game on every one.

If everyone refused to answer those questions, or they just didn't ask them, then the elites would not be able to create this sense of rage.

Instead, we would have to use anecdotal evidence, and observations of unfairness, which, to most of us, is what is REAL, and something that we can analyze and take action on.

These are the things we can agree on.

It angers me to no end when a police chief, admissions officer, loan officer, real estate agent, or who ever, is caught making important life changing decisions based solely on race, and then that person is given just a two week suspension, but then put right back to work at their original job.

THAT should infuriate us all.

But it happens, over and over and over.

When do whites like you get it through your heads that you really have no right to complain about things being decided by race? For all 242 years of this nation,188 of it by written law, whites created a system that made race an issue. Now because whites have to compete and don't get everything, race now is unfair and we need to just stop considering race.

You fail miserably to understand this. If we went colorblind tomorrow, whites would have all the advantages that you would say was based on merit because of the advantages they gave themselves because of race. So until whites are wiling to fix the damage they created we just can't drop race. This is why I say whites are not prepared, willing, or understand what takes to end racism.

Lol. Whites have no rights when things are decided by race? We have as much right as anyone. The whites today did not create a system that makes race an issue. And yes, you did blame whites today for the past. What damage do you want fixed that we did not create?

 

[Indeependent]

You don't know me or the life I've lived. Don't be so insulting.

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

I don't need to create a poll in this forum asking the questions you suggest. I already know the answers. I know the true state of race relations. I know the attitudes of the majority of the white people here in this section. You and those like you need to take advantage of all the information out there that would provide you with the knowledge you need to learn to know just how much work we must do.

And understand that I might have had more extensive experience in both communities than you. I'm black grew up in a town that was 90 percent white. I lived in cities that were majorly white. I've worked umpteen jobs being the only black. I was on sports teams as the only black. I was married to a white woman and have lived in the suburbs with whites. Why whites like you think you can lecture us makes me laugh. We do not live isolated from whites.

Last, we are not concerned with what the majority race is looking for. We all live in the American culture so dump the racist bullshit that separate cultures to continue believing in white supremacy. It is fake news for us to blame ourselves when the system made by whites caused the problem. Those who think like you in the majority need to face that.

Because as you look at our overall history we have taken plenty off ownership. When will the majority race do the same?

I think you are afraid of what you might find. You just might find you are ignorant and your ideas are based on your own ignorance. Perhaps folks already know that both communities are being oppressed by the exact same problem, a problem you don't want to face, because it is too painful of a reality.

Of course a "system made by whites" caused the problem, but it wasn't made by whites just to benefit whites. That is not what you are getting. It was made by whites to benefit those who rule. There have been and are blacks in the ruling class, and nothing changes. YOU KNOW this... . but you care not.

Blacks on the Supreme Court, as Sec. of Defense, of State, as President, Blacks in fortune 500 companies, but nothing changes. . hmmmmm I wonder why?


Oh I know, b/c what I am saying is wrong, and what you are saying is right? Bullshit.

It has nothing to do with rank and file members of the population at this point. No amount of "raising awareness" or "increasing education" will ever help the problem. Nor will "reparations," that will just piss some people off, while giving free hand out to folks that would piss away entitlements at commercial establishments with no knowledge of how to invest it, it would cause ill will between different communities with out really addressing any real problems. IOW, it will just make the problems worse.

If you don't know this, you have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

The system was made by whites and for the benefits of whites. That's a fact.

Your post is pathetic. I've worked 30 years in the black community and your ass is wrong. I know what I'm talking about. I've seen the issues and causes. l studied and faced the problem and created ways that have helped reduce them. Have you?

I doubt it.

Until dumb opinionated whites like you stop the fact less remarks about things you know nothing about, the work that needs to be done to fix the racist system whites created, won't be done. You post the same dumb ass small minded white racist bullshit about what you think we don't know and how anything we ask for will piss off whites like that matters. Whites like you need to understand that we don't give a fuck if you get mad. You need to know that we have been pissed for a long time, almost 4 centuries to be exact. And we are not the only ones. So what those like you should do is shut your mouths and listen. We know better than you what the cause of the problems are for us and what we need to do. And if you continue your arrogance in 15 years when your asses are a minority, you will listen or you will be moved to the back of he bus.

And there won't be a damn thing you can do to stop it.

" I've worked 30 years in the black community[SIC]"
Perhaps consider working elsewhere.

 

[IM2]

That doesn't explain racism.

 

[IM2]

As you don't know me, you don't get to whine after making insulting comments to me consistently.

I value your contributions to the forum, though we do not always agree.

The post that triggered you; Post What It Means To Be White In A Society That Proclaims Race Is Meaningless... was not directed at you, but it caused offense in that YOU BELIEVE the majority culture does not want to end racism, where I believe it does.

Perhaps where you and I could agree, as that since I have had such extensive experience in both communities, the majority culture may not agree that there is extensive institutional and unconscious racism, and when it does present, more harsh social ostracization from the majority community, including officially sanctioning needs to take place.

OTH, what I think the majority culture is looking for, is some ownership among the minority community for it's own failings. Personally, I believe a lot of these failings have been purposely engineered by the elites, but many would call me a conspricy theorist on that point, though I have provided evidence for this contention on multiple occasions.

Perhaps you could run a five option poll for more information from forum members if you want to know attitudes around here?;

Do you believe institutional racism exists and there is something you can do about it?

Do you believe institution racism exists and there is nothing you can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is nothing they can do about it?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and there is every reason to believe they should do something to change?

Do you believe racial disparities are the fault of the out-group and this has been intentionally engineered by the bureaucracy and the forces of institutional racism?

Vote in more than one if you like.

This might provide you with more useful answers concerning the state of race relations than anything you have done up to this point.

I don't need to create a poll in this forum asking the questions you suggest. I already know the answers. I know the true state of race relations. I know the attitudes of the majority of the white people here in this section. You and those like you need to take advantage of all the information out there that would provide you with the knowledge you need to learn to know just how much work we must do.

And understand that I might have had more extensive experience in both communities than you. I'm black grew up in a town that was 90 percent white. I lived in cities that were majorly white. I've worked umpteen jobs being the only black. I was on sports teams as the only black. I was married to a white woman and have lived in the suburbs with whites. Why whites like you think you can lecture us makes me laugh. We do not live isolated from whites.

Last, we are not concerned with what the majority race is looking for. We all live in the American culture so dump the racist bullshit that separate cultures to continue believing in white supremacy. It is fake news for us to blame ourselves when the system made by whites caused the problem. Those who think like you in the majority need to face that.

Because as you look at our overall history we have taken plenty off ownership. When will the majority race do the same?

I think you are afraid of what you might find. You just might find you are ignorant and your ideas are based on your own ignorance. Perhaps folks already know that both communities are being oppressed by the exact same problem, a problem you don't want to face, because it is too painful of a reality.

Of course a "system made by whites" caused the problem, but it wasn't made by whites just to benefit whites. That is not what you are getting. It was made by whites to benefit those who rule. There have been and are blacks in the ruling class, and nothing changes. YOU KNOW this... . but you care not.

Blacks on the Supreme Court, as Sec. of Defense, of State, as President, Blacks in fortune 500 companies, but nothing changes. . hmmmmm I wonder why?


Oh I know, b/c what I am saying is wrong, and what you are saying is right? Bullshit.

It has nothing to do with rank and file members of the population at this point. No amount of "raising awareness" or "increasing education" will ever help the problem. Nor will "reparations," that will just piss some people off, while giving free hand out to folks that would piss away entitlements at commercial establishments with no knowledge of how to invest it, it would cause ill will between different communities with out really addressing any real problems. IOW, it will just make the problems worse.

If you don't know this, you have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

The system was made by whites and for the benefits of whites. That's a fact.

Your post is pathetic. I've worked 30 years in the black community and your ass is wrong. I know what I'm talking about. I've seen the issues and causes. l studied and faced the problem and created ways that have helped reduce them. Have you?

I doubt it.

Until dumb opinionated whites like you stop the fact less remarks about things you know nothing about, the work that needs to be done to fix the racist system whites created, won't be done. You post the same dumb ass small minded white racist bullshit about what you think we don't know and how anything we ask for will piss off whites like that matters. Whites like you need to understand that we don't give a fuck if you get mad. You need to know that we have been pissed for a long time, almost 4 centuries to be exact. And we are not the only ones. So what those like you should do is shut your mouths and listen. We know better than you what the cause of the problems are for us and what we need to do. And if you continue your arrogance in 15 years when your asses are a minority, you will listen or you will be moved to the back of he bus.

And there won't be a damn thing you can do to stop it.

" I've worked 30 years in the black community[SIC]"
Perhaps consider working elsewhere.

I think I'll keep working in the black community thank you.

We laugh at whites like you. You lie to yourself everyday just to get out of bed.

Then you gather in places like this where you get told what you desperately need to hear in order to feel validated as a white person.

You would not dare enter a majority black forum like we enter majority white USMB and talk like you do.

Pussy.

 

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You lie to yourself everyday just to get out of bed.

No, I just use copious amounts of alcohol.

 

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You lie to yourself everyday just to get out of bed.

No, I just use copious amounts of alcohol.

Good one!