What is wrong with 'division'?

[yiostheoy]

Doesn't mean shit. Like all demographic groups, the attitudes towards gays and gay marriage is changing .. no longer defined exclusively by religion.

.. AND, it wouldn't matter if 100% of black people opposed gay marriage, they still wouldn't vote for republicans.

Guns are most definitely NEXT. The Supreme Court will be in the hands of democrats .. nothing you can do about it.

I like you B-A-C.

You are a straight shooter !!

 

[Unkotare]

I don't know about anyone else, but I fully support the divisiveness of the Republican Party. The battle lines should be clear and unmistakable.

The more divisive republicans are, the easier the fight is to win .. which is why republicans have lost on virtually every social issue in this country.

I APPLAUD the giant divide between right and left, democrats and republicans, non-white people and racists.

The time for pussy-footing around serious issues has long past.

Keep it up republicans. Spew that hate like God told you to. :0)

You do realize that non-white people pretty much agree 100% with Republicans on social issues, right?

No the fuck they don't .. which is why you've lost them all ,, with the exception of guns .. and they are next.

Black people are almost as anti-gay as Muslims are, and Hispanics have never been for gay marriage.

Guns are an issue Republicans can't even lose on.

Doesn't mean shit. Like all demographic groups, the attitudes towards gays and gay marriage is changing .. no longer defined exclusively by religion.

.. AND, it wouldn't matter if 100% of black people opposed gay marriage, they still wouldn't vote for republicans.

Guns are most definitely NEXT. The Supreme Court will be in the hands of democrats .. nothing you can do about it.

You're kidding yourself, Blue.

 

[RodISHI]

Damn Republicans, going around thinking everyone should play by the same rules, that's just pure hatred of black people, I fell you.

Why is it you think blacks can't compete on a level playing field again? You think you're not smart enough? Or you're just too lazy. Maybe it's just you, not all blacks, did you ever consider that? I've seen no evidence blacks can't compete fine on a level field

Incredibly stupid.

What's stupid is that you think blacks can't compete on a level playing field and you need the Democrats to promise you a lower bar. That's the completely worst solution and it's an insult to successful blacks who didn't need extra credit for being black

Why would I think that asshole when I'm obviously much smarter than you and most of the knuckleheads on this board?

Nothing special about me .. you're just dumb.

Then why do you agree with the Democrat siren song about lowering the bar rather than the Republicans saying you're as capable as anyone else, do it yourself?

I agree with remedies and corrections to HUNDREDS of years of racist oppression and bars to opportunity.

You know .. like blacks aren't cerebral enough to play quarterback in the NFL .. or aren't smart enough to become president.

It isn't that you were any smarter or better .. just the only ones allowed to play.

Just curious but how do you plan on stopping the racists that are racist among the black community when you have so many that hate whites or any other race? That same principle if you get it figured out could work with muslims who hate muslims.

 

[yiostheoy]

Incredibly stupid.

What's stupid is that you think blacks can't compete on a level playing field and you need the Democrats to promise you a lower bar. That's the completely worst solution and it's an insult to successful blacks who didn't need extra credit for being black

Why would I think that asshole when I'm obviously much smarter than you and most of the knuckleheads on this board?

Nothing special about me .. you're just dumb.

Then why do you agree with the Democrat siren song about lowering the bar rather than the Republicans saying you're as capable as anyone else, do it yourself?

I agree with remedies and corrections to HUNDREDS of years of racist oppression and bars to opportunity.

You know .. like blacks aren't cerebral enough to play quarterback in the NFL .. or aren't smart enough to become president.

It isn't that you were any smarter or better .. just the only ones allowed to play.

Just curious but how do you plan on stopping the racists that are racist among the black community when you have so many that hate whites or any other race? That same principle if you get it figured out could work with muslims who hate muslims.

Hate is NOT the answer.

 

[Unkotare]

Oh yeah, fd-asshole-r really improved the lives of the American citizens he threw into concentration camps. Ignorant shit. ^^^^

 

[RodISHI]

What's stupid is that you think blacks can't compete on a level playing field and you need the Democrats to promise you a lower bar. That's the completely worst solution and it's an insult to successful blacks who didn't need extra credit for being black

Why would I think that asshole when I'm obviously much smarter than you and most of the knuckleheads on this board?

Nothing special about me .. you're just dumb.

Then why do you agree with the Democrat siren song about lowering the bar rather than the Republicans saying you're as capable as anyone else, do it yourself?

I agree with remedies and corrections to HUNDREDS of years of racist oppression and bars to opportunity.

You know .. like blacks aren't cerebral enough to play quarterback in the NFL .. or aren't smart enough to become president.

It isn't that you were any smarter or better .. just the only ones allowed to play.

Just curious but how do you plan on stopping the racists that are racist among the black community when you have so many that hate whites or any other race? That same principle if you get it figured out could work with muslims who hate muslims.

Hate is NOT the answer.

I agree hate is not the answer but forcing people to accept something that is not instilled already in their hearts to accept is just as hateful. It does nothing more than create more division and divisiveness which eventually leads to wars and battles. Legislating crap laws that try to force people together and say it is lawful to have a certain mindset does not work as people simply find a means to go around the law. That should be really obvious to people with any means to formulate thoughts. If you drug and fluoride enough of the people you may eventually get a portion of the job done but even that will backfire when people figure out how badly they have been screwed over.

 

[oreo]

I keep hearing this from the left and I want to know what is wrong with divisiveness? As a military commander I really did try to weed out divisive talk since it destabilized the military unit as a whole. I really don't know if that is good in society since individuals seem to want to operate as separate individuals who are free to choose what they want to be. Families really don't have any other consideration other than to themselves and not to the societal unit as a whole. It would just seem that if we applied the same military mentality to society we would have to weed out any kind of divisive talk and glorify unity because that strengthens our society.

You can hear your question answered by a 4 star General--John Allen.

 

[Hiryuu]

I don't think speech should be suppressed, I just think our elected leaders should display more character and respect and lead by example. We are reaching an ultimate low when the elected presidental candidate for the Republican Party spends half his time dishing out below the belt disses on Twitter... We need to be waaaaay better than that. These actions should be shamed, not rewarded.

Perhaps we should take a hint from the DNC and restrict our dissing to emails on a private server.
That way we can wait for someone to hack the server before we have to have an honest discussion.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Incredibly stupid.

What's stupid is that you think blacks can't compete on a level playing field and you need the Democrats to promise you a lower bar. That's the completely worst solution and it's an insult to successful blacks who didn't need extra credit for being black

Why would I think that asshole when I'm obviously much smarter than you and most of the knuckleheads on this board?

Nothing special about me .. you're just dumb.

Then why do you agree with the Democrat siren song about lowering the bar rather than the Republicans saying you're as capable as anyone else, do it yourself?

I agree with remedies and corrections to HUNDREDS of years of racist oppression and bars to opportunity.

You know .. like blacks aren't cerebral enough to play quarterback in the NFL .. or aren't smart enough to become president.

It isn't that you were any smarter or better .. just the only ones allowed to play.

Just curious but how do you plan on stopping the racists that are racist among the black community when you have so many that hate whites or any other race? That same principle if you get it figured out could work with muslims who hate muslims.

Pretty sure that you and I have very different perspectives on who and what is racist .. but I happily engage any and everyone on the question of race in America .. including black people who hate white people. More white people voted for Obama then black people. A good way to open the challenge.\

Throughout America there are vast numbers of white people who live in black and mixed-race communities and are welcomed there. Hate of white people is not as prevalent as you may think.

I have no idea what to tell Muslims that don't like other Muslims .. not my problem ..it's the problem of religion .. which is divisive by its very nature.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Doesn't mean shit. Like all demographic groups, the attitudes towards gays and gay marriage is changing .. no longer defined exclusively by religion.

.. AND, it wouldn't matter if 100% of black people opposed gay marriage, they still wouldn't vote for republicans.

Guns are most definitely NEXT. The Supreme Court will be in the hands of democrats .. nothing you can do about it.

I like you B-A-C.

You are a straight shooter !!

Thank you brother.

 

[Dragonlady]

I keep hearing this from the left and I want to know what is wrong with divisiveness? As a military commander I really did try to weed out divisive talk since it destabilized the military unit as a whole. I really don't know if that is good in society since individuals seem to want to operate as separate individuals who are free to choose what they want to be. Families really don't have any other consideration other than to themselves and not to the societal unit as a whole. It would just seem that if we applied the same military mentality to society we would have to weed out any kind of divisive talk and glorify unity because that strengthens our society.

I don't think our society could ever be glued back together again. Those days are long gone.

Now I think it's time Americans split up totally. We need to divide this country in half, and have conservatives on one side and liberals on the other. Those in between would have to choose a side.

That's the only way we will ever have peace between us as Americans.

The reality is that few states are really red or blue. Most are some shade of purple, so you can't say that the reds are here and blue states are there. Furthermore, the blue states are in much better shape financially than the red states.

Republicans talk about being in favour of small government and balanced budgets, but the reality is that the Democrats are much better with the budgets, and reducing the size of government. The size of government went down under Carter, Clinton and Obama, and up under Reagan and W increased dramatically. W presided over the largest increase in the size of government since Roosevelt in the Great Depression.

As a fiscal conservative, I believe in balanced budgets and decreasing the size of government, but you don't do it by over regulating abortion, or who goes into and out of the women's washroom.

In terms of balancing the budget, Republicans are good at spending money, but they put it all on the credit card. Democrats at least fund their programs with taxes. Conservatives call the Democrats the party of "tax and spend". At least they tax BEFORE they spend and don't depend on magical thinking that the deficit will disappear if they cut taxes.

No, I don't think you can break the country apart and separate the disparate groups. But I seriously believe that a house divided against itself cannot stand, and the US is very divided. Not all ideas that the other party has are bad. That goes both ways. If you can't learn to compromise and get along, things will get worse.

 

[Hiryuu]

Doesn't mean shit. Like all demographic groups, the attitudes towards gays and gay marriage is changing .. no longer defined exclusively by religion.

.. AND, it wouldn't matter if 100% of black people opposed gay marriage, they still wouldn't vote for republicans.

Guns are most definitely NEXT. The Supreme Court will be in the hands of democrats .. nothing you can do about it.

I guess most people no longer know how screwed up the idea the Supreme Court favors one party or the other instead of upholding the Constitution really is. It isn't really surprising though, because we didn't get here over night.

 

[candycorn]

Yesterday a RWNJ was saying “vote your race”. Yet Obama is supposedly divisive.

So what's wrong with voting for your own race? Didn't seem to have a problem with it when blacks overwhelmingly voted for DumBama. And before you say blacks are mostly dems, remember they voted the same way against Hillary in the primaries.

When you're race is not in the majority, you are reduced to making erroneous claims on message boards. Basically look in the mirror and you can figure out what is wrong with our nation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The reality is that few states are really red or blue. Most are some shade of purple, so you can't say that the reds are here and blue states are there. Furthermore, the blue states are in much better shape financially than the red states.

Republicans talk about being in favour of small government and balanced budgets, but the reality is that the Democrats are much better with the budgets, and reducing the size of government. The size of government went down under Carter, Clinton and Obama, and up under Reagan and W increased dramatically. W presided over the largest increase in the size of government since Roosevelt in the Great Depression.

As a fiscal conservative, I believe in balanced budgets and decreasing the size of government, but you don't do it by over regulating abortion, or who goes into and out of the women's washroom.

In terms of balancing the budget, Republicans are good at spending money, but they put it all on the credit card. Democrats at least fund their programs with taxes. Conservatives call the Democrats the party of "tax and spend". At least they tax BEFORE they spend and don't depend on magical thinking that the deficit will disappear if they cut taxes.

No, I don't think you can break the country apart and separate the disparate groups. But I seriously believe that a house divided against itself cannot stand, and the US is very divided. Not all ideas that the other party has are bad. That goes both ways. If you can't learn to compromise and get along, things will get worse.

Things don't get much worse than they are now. Democrats are for evil and Republicans are for good. So where is the middle ground between evil and good?

There is none, and that's why I would support a total separation of the country by political affiliation.

You talk about the presidency as if the president were the king. But we have a multi-layer of government that guides us. Congress makes the laws in our country along with taxation. Reagan was a President during a Democrat Congress. Clinton was President with a Republican Congress. Most of DumBama's term, you got it, under a Republican led Congress. Bush, also under a Republican Congress which got voted out because those Republicans started to act like Democrats.

We would have a balanced budget today if not for DumBama, however, the Republicans in Congress have limited our spending bringing us closer to that point. The only problem with the Republicans is their fear of a government shutdown which DumBama would be more than happy to provide because the MSM would promote it's all the Republicans fault and not DumBama or the Senate Democrats.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When you're race is not in the majority, you are reduced to making erroneous claims on message boards. Basically look in the mirror and you can figure out what is wrong with our nation.

I know exactly what's wrong with our nation: liberalism. But WTF does that have to do with my comment?

What would you libs say if white America voted for Hillary in the 90 some percent range against DumBama? Or if white America voted for McCain or Romney in the 90 percent range? Your claim would be that we live in a racist nation. But for whatever reason, when blacks do exactly that, all is forgiven?

 

[candycorn]

When you're race is not in the majority, you are reduced to making erroneous claims on message boards. Basically look in the mirror and you can figure out what is wrong with our nation.

I know exactly what's wrong with our nation: liberalism. But WTF does that have to do with my comment?

What would you libs say if white America voted for Hillary in the 90 some percent range against DumBama? Or if white America voted for McCain or Romney in the 90 percent range? Your claim would be that we live in a racist nation. But for whatever reason, when blacks do exactly that, all is forgiven?

You're stating that one should not vote for someone who isn't of their race.
And you're asking what is wrong with that.

Yes, you are the pure embodiment of precisely what is wrong with the nation.

 

[Slade3200]

I agree, divisiveness and the contest of ideas between liberal and conservative ideologies is a useful and necessary component of our democracy. I believe the President addressed that nicely in his speech at the DNC.

The problem in modern times is there is a lack of respect between both sides and an inability to civilly discuss the contrast of ideas. There are too many lies, posturing, manipulation, and distortion in our politics and media which is causing a blind and ignorant divisiveness which is very damaging. We should be able to honestly present and communicate facts and ideas, be heard and acknowledged by both sides, and reach reasonable compromises to determine our course.

We would be so much more powerful if we could support our leadership instead of constantly trying to block, contradict, and discredit... There is a time for debate and challenge but that seems to consume our political system and we are left with very little time for teamwork and productivity.

That kind of "teamwork" has been dissolving for some time and accelerated by the DumBama administration.

The left is going further left and the right wants to go further right. There is no middle ground anymore.

On the right, we have the Tea Party and the supporters who gave us Donald Trump. On the left, the admitted Socialist was a close second to becoming their nominee, and their current President was supported by the US Communist party both elections.

So where is the middle ground between Communism and Constitutionalism?

Our electoral process is part of the problem. The primary process pushes the candidates to the fringe and then they try to come back to center for the general but that's hard to do without flip flopping on issues. I hope one good thing can come from this election and that would be the emergence of a strong third party... Either that or a big weakening of the current two.

The constant posturing for reelection and lobby funds by our congressional leadership is a whole other barrel of worms that feed this problem

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're stating that one should not vote for someone who isn't of their race.
And you're asking what is wrong with that.

Yes, you are the pure embodiment of precisely what is wrong with the nation.

No, I am stating what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The OP is suggesting that whites should vote white, and you libs come here saying that's racist. So why is it only racist one way is my question? Blacks vote exclusively for blacks because THEY DO vote on race and nothing more. If you wish to challenge me on that, then please explain how blacks voted for DumBama against Hillary (another Democrat) in the 90 percent range.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Our electoral process is part of the problem. The primary process pushes the candidates to the fringe and then they try to come back to center for the general but that's hard to do without flip flopping on issues. I hope one good thing can come from this election and that would be the emergence of a strong third party... Either that or a big weakening of the current two.

The constant posturing for reelection and lobby funds by our congressional leadership is a whole other barrel of worms that feed this problem

There will never be a third party. Why? Because of this division I wrote about.

I'm not voting for Trump, I'm voting to keep Hillary out of office. I didn't vote for McCain or Romney, I voted to keep DumBama out of office.

Many Americans vote the way I do for the same reason. It's impossible to ever have a third party candidate win anything when this is the situation we are in.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

You're stating that one should not vote for someone who isn't of their race.
And you're asking what is wrong with that.

Yes, you are the pure embodiment of precisely what is wrong with the nation.

No, I am stating what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

The OP is suggesting that whites should vote white, and you libs come here saying that's racist. So why is it only racist one way is my question? Blacks vote exclusively for blacks because THEY DO vote on race and nothing more. If you wish to challenge me on that, then please explain how blacks voted for DumBama against Hillary (another Democrat) in the 90 percent range.

Damn that's stupid.

Black voters give EVERY democratic presidential nominee almost 90% of our votes.

Only once were those massive numbers for a black presidential candidate .. the rest were all for white democratic candidates.

But don't let facts interrupt your noise.