What is the goal of capitalism?

[Toddsterpatriot]

More nervous laughing on your part, because according to how you define what is "commie", practically all of Western Europe is commie, including Japan and even Taiwan. I mention any policy that isn't in line with Milton Friedman's economics and you start regurgitating Cold War claptrap propaganda about the USSR and Cuba. Amazing.

Using your definition of commie, list the successful commie countries right now.

 

[Red Front]

Using your definition of commie, list the successful commie countries right now.

What's the point?

 

[Red Front]

And you can't handle the exploiters.

The exploiters are eliminating themselves...

 

[Red Front]

The shelves were only empty in four periods in Soviet history.

At the beginning. During the war. In the middle. At the end.

1. War
2. Primarily Climate - Ukraine
3. War
4. Perestroika/Market Reform

 

[Red Front]

That heartless bitch is good for us, bad for you. She loves us, she hates your ass and is the end of you.

Now pout and stomp your foot.
Give it your best Veruca Salt, "I want the world. I want the whole world"
Atta girl!

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[Toddsterpatriot]

What's the point?

That there are no successful communist nations.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The exploiters are eliminating themselves...

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Like the commies in Russia eliminated themselves, 30 years ago?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. War
2. Primarily Climate - Ukraine
3. War
4. Perestroika/Market Reform

Because communism sucks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Hey Marx, I want a golden goose!

 

[Red Front]

Because communism sucks.

Because capitalists are tyrants.

 

[Red Front]

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Hey Marx, I want a golden goose!

Stop projecting. That's clearly the capitalists having a hissy fit when they realize advanced automation and AI ensure socialism's victory over capitalism.

 

[Red Front]

Like the commies in Russia eliminated themselves, 30 years ago?

The second largest political block in modern Russia eliminated itself? The communist party is actually growing and in the not-too-distant future, Russia will become socialist again. Stalin is more popular than ever.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

The second largest political block in modern Russia eliminated itself? The communist party is actually growing and in the not-too-distant future, Russia will become socialist again. Stalin is more popular than ever.

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The most successful communist nation in history isn't communist anymore? LOL!

 

[Red Front]

That there are no successful communist nations.

There has never been a communist nation. You're exposing your ignorance. The fact that there has never been a communist nation in the past, doesn't prevent there being one in the future.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There has never been a communist nation.

That's one way to deny your failures.

 

[Red Front]

The most successful communist nation in history isn't communist anymore? LOL!

It was never communist, it was a socialist country on the path to communism (a stateless society, without socioeconomic classes or the need for money). The fact that it's not socialist today, doesn't imply it won't be socialist again tomorrow. Seeing how production is becoming automated with intelligent robotics and computers, socialism replacing capitalism is inevitable.

 

[Red Front]

That's one way to deny your failures.

You're the one who denies all of the failures of his worldview and ideology. I never deny the failures of socialists in the past, nor our present failures. Failure is part of being human and it can instruct us on how to do things correctly in the future. The fact that the Soviet Union lost the Cold War and was dissolved in 1991, doesn't imply that Russia will never be socialist again. Moreover, it also doesn't exclude the possibility of the United States and other countries becoming socialist as well. Advanced automation and artificial intelligence make socialism the inevitable successor of capitalism, just as capitalism was the successor of feudalism.

 

[Ringo]

If capitalism is so efficient, why does it need child labor?
Why does it need migrant labor? Why does it need half-impoverished people in mines and plantations? Why do they need factories in Asia, where poor people sit in cramped quarters and bend their backs for pennies Why even Musk's cars are assembled by Mexicans?
ALL EFFICIENCY of capitalism is hollow, and it is based on brutal exploitation of some people for the sake of more or less bearable life of others and splendid existence of a small bunch of parasitic creatures.

 

[Red Front]

If capitalism is so efficient, why does it need child labor?
Why does it need migrant labor? Why does it need half-impoverished people in mines and plantations? Why do they need factories in Asia, where poor people sit in cramped quarters and bend their backs for pennies Why even Musk's cars are assembled by Mexicans?
ALL EFFICIENCY of capitalism is hollow, and it is based on brutal exploitation of some people for the sake of more or less bearable life of others and splendid existence of a small bunch of parasitic creatures.

So true.

 

[dblack]

If capitalism is so efficient, why does it need child labor?

It doesn't.

Why does it need migrant labor?

It doesn't.

Why does it need half-impoverished people in mines and plantations?

It doesn't.

Why do they need factories in Asia, where poor people sit in cramped quarters and bend their backs for pennies

They don't.

Why even Musk's cars are assembled by Mexicans?

You'd have to ask Elon Musk. But I'm pretty sure the answer won't be "because capitalism".

ALL EFFICIENCY of capitalism is hollow, and it is based on brutal exploitation of some people for the sake of more or less bearable life of others and splendid existence of a small bunch of parasitic creatures.

No, it's not. All the things you're whining about happen in any economic system. It all depends on the character and morality of the people involved.