What Is A "testament," That There Is An "old Testament" And A "new Testament?"

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

Hi,

...here is definition #5 of the word "testament" found at Testament Define Testament at Dictionary.com :

"a covenant, especially between God and humans."

Doesn't then the "New" Testament mean that the "Old" Testament is out of date?...

Thanks for all answers.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Covenants made between God and Man were between God and Jews in the Tanach (aka OT.) Those don't apply to anyone but the Jews. Christianity didn't exist and wouldn't for about a thousand years. NT Gospels were written from about 60AD on wards so any claim of new covenants made would apply to whomever they were to. BUt the Jewish covenants were for Jews and only Jews. If not Jewish nothing in the OT is about or for you.

By all rights, Christianity should have only been the NT, and not the OT+NT. It'd be like if Islam when it wrote its Qur'an pasted it onto a Bible.

 

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

Covenants made between God and Man were between God and Jews in the Tanach (aka OT.) Those don't apply to anyone but the Jews. Christianity didn't exist and wouldn't for about a thousand years. NT Gospels were written from about 60AD on wards so any claim of new covenants made would apply to whomever they were to. BUt the Jewish covenants were for Jews and only Jews. If not Jewish nothing in the OT is about or for you.

By all rights, Christianity should have only been the NT, and not the OT+NT. It'd be like if Islam when it wrote its Qur'an pasted it onto a Bible.

You are a liar, Sir. The Old Testament contains a covenant that God made with Noah BEFORE there were any Jews.

If the Christians hold that the "New" Testament is the new covenant between God and man, then wouldn't that make you a disbeliever in the God of Israel because you disbelieve in the New Covenant but believe in the Old Testament? Anyway, may I ask you, do you find this to be true (John 3:36, Amplified Bible)?:

"...But whoever disobeys (is unbelieving toward, refuses to trust in, disregards, is not subject to) the Son will never see (experience) life, but [instead] the wrath of God abides on him. [God’s displeasure remains on him; His indignation hangs over him continually.]"

Here is a verse from the New Testament about the new covenant referred to in Jeremiah 31:31:

Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Hebrews 12:23-25 (in Context) Hebrews 12 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

If you don't believe in Jesus, then you don't believe in the God of Israel:

1 John 2:22-23
New International Version (NIV)

(22)Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. (23)No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

 

[Mr. Ofo Oao]

Here is the Amplified Bible's translation of Hebrews 8:13 in the New Testament:

"When God speaks of a new [covenant or agreement], He makes the first one obsolete (out of use). And what is obsolete (out of use and annulled because of age) is ripe for disappearance and to be dispensed with altogether."

This tells us, Christians, that the Old Testament (Covenant) is out of date.