Zone1 how old is christianity?

[rampart]

most of the religion is borrowed from older beliefs some of them from the old testament but plenty from the "wise men of the east" confucious, buddha, and zoroaster and a large dollop of hellenistic mystery.

here is another 5,000 year old cave painting in egypt. it is a natvity scene.

A cave painting found in Egyptian Sahara depicts a nativity scene 3,000 years before Jesus’ Birth - Arkeonews

5,000-year-old rock art depicting the oldest nativity scene ever found has been found in Egypt's Sahara Desert: A newborn between parents, two animals, and a star in the east.

arkeonews.net

 

[Hellokitty]

Um it's a huge stretch to interpret the impressions in cave as being a nativity scene.

 

[rampart]

Um it's a huge stretch to interpret the impressions in cave as being a nativity scene.

hey. it has the characters, but, this interpretation may be modified a bit as the seasonal spirit subsides.

 

[frigidweirdo]

most of the religion is borrowed from older beliefs some of them from the old testament but plenty from the "wise men of the east" confucious, buddha, and zoroaster and a large dollop of hellenistic mystery.

here is another 5,000 year old cave painting in egypt. it is a natvity scene.

A cave painting found in Egyptian Sahara depicts a nativity scene 3,000 years before Jesus’ Birth - Arkeonews

5,000-year-old rock art depicting the oldest nativity scene ever found has been found in Egypt's Sahara Desert: A newborn between parents, two animals, and a star in the east.

arkeonews.net

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Depends what you mean by "Christianity", doesn't it? Christianity essential "stole" lots of things from religions before it. A nativity scene that existed 3,000 years before the supposed nativity scene actually happened? That means the nativity scene didn't happen when the Bible said it did, and probably not at all.

 

[luiza]

About as valid as Santa and the Tooth Fairy .
But it keeps sentimentalists and dreamers happy and generally law abiding , so it is has some small value .

 

[rampart]

Depends what you mean by "Christianity", doesn't it? Christianity essential "stole" lots of things from religions before it. A nativity scene that existed 3,000 years before the supposed nativity scene actually happened? That means the nativity scene didn't happen when the Bible said it did, and probably not at all.

could be god's foreshadowing in prophecy, couldn't it? i think we're talking undergraduates excited about the holidays seeing what they want to see..

 

[frigidweirdo]

could be god's foreshadowing in prophecy, couldn't it? i think we're talking undergraduates excited about the holidays seeing what they want to see..

Or it could simply be that humans are emotional, and they want to believe they have some kind of control over the world, so they make gods, they make stories for those gods, and then they draw the pictures, tell the stories.

When Christianity came along, they couldn't go "here's something totally new", they just adapted what already existed, to make adaption easier.

The flood story of Noah isn't just in the Bible.

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Flood myths are common across a wide range of cultures, extending back into Bronze Age and Neolithic prehistory. These accounts depict a flood, sometimes global in scale, usually sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution."

Clearly in the modern era we can see floods for what they are. Imagine you lived in a place and everything you could see was flooded, you might imagine the whole world has flooded.

Monotheism existed a long time before Christianity, coming from Egypt and was born and died and born again, and passed through Greece to Rome and onwards to the rest of Europe.

Many of the stories existed before.

 

[rampart]

Or it could simply be that humans are emotional, and they want to believe they have some kind of control over the world, so they make gods, they make stories for those gods, and then they draw the pictures, tell the stories.

When Christianity came along, they couldn't go "here's something totally new", they just adapted what already existed, to make adaption easier.

The flood story of Noah isn't just in the Bible.

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Flood myths are common across a wide range of cultures, extending back into Bronze Age and Neolithic prehistory. These accounts depict a flood, sometimes global in scale, usually sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution."

Clearly in the modern era we can see floods for what they are. Imagine you lived in a place and everything you could see was flooded, you might imagine the whole world has flooded.

Monotheism existed a long time before Christianity, coming from Egypt and was born and died and born again, and passed through Greece to Rome and onwards to the rest of Europe.

Many of the stories existed before.

easily recognized fragments of rge creation and thed enake tempting the woman are from the clay dug up in ninevah.

 

[TNHarley]

A bunch of desert savages wrote down bedtime stories they heard and moved a couple things around, and other people made a religion of it.
Full of magic, fairy tales, jealousy, love, genocide and cannibalistic rituals.
Everything someone could want.
Thats all the abrahamic religions are.

 

[ding]

A bunch of desert savages wrote down bedtime stories they heard and moved a couple things around, and other people made a religion of it.
Full of magic, fairy tales, jealousy, love, genocide and cannibalistic rituals.
Everything someone could want.
Thats all the abrahamic religions are.

How exactly has your atheism towards "desert savage"religions enriched your life?

Convince me to join you.

 

[BreezeWood]

confusion has been everpresent, there is an artificial thread that runs through the three desert religions that is their achilles heel and prevents them from being the evolution to a goal they are meant to be.

 

[rampart]

A bunch of desert savages wrote down bedtime stories they heard and moved a couple things around, and other people made a religion of it.
Full of magic, fairy tales, jealousy, love, genocide and cannibalistic rituals.
Everything someone could want.
Thats all the abrahamic religions are.

the wisest men of the iron age giving their best answers to the eternal questions of children. there are plenty of great stories and as good a moral as aesop, but literal word for word truth?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

most of the religion is borrowed from older beliefs some of them from the old testament but plenty from the "wise men of the east" confucious, buddha, and zoroaster and a large dollop of hellenistic mystery.

here is another 5,000 year old cave painting in egypt. it is a natvity scene.

A cave painting found in Egyptian Sahara depicts a nativity scene 3,000 years before Jesus’ Birth - Arkeonews

5,000-year-old rock art depicting the oldest nativity scene ever found has been found in Egypt's Sahara Desert: A newborn between parents, two animals, and a star in the east.

arkeonews.net

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A depiction of three human figures, one smaller than the other two. Maybe a man, a woman, and their child, but to even assume that is dubious.

It is certainly a very huge stretch to assume that this has anything at all to do with a depiction of the Nativity scene from three thousand years later in history.

 

[frigidweirdo]

easily recognized fragments of rge creation and thed enake tempting the woman are from the clay dug up in ninevah.

Okay, and?

 

[Moonglow]

Um it's a huge stretch to interpret the impressions in cave as being a nativity scene.

Looks more like abstract serials.

 

[Moonglow]

the wisest men of the iron age giving their best answers to the eternal questions of children. there are plenty of great stories and as good a moral as aesop, but literal word for word truth?

Yet, they were Pagans.

 

[onefour1]

how old is christianity?​

Christianity has existed since before the foundation of the earth. It was Jesus who created the earth and was part of the Godhead before it was created. He is Jehovah and the Great I AM of the Old Testament.

John 1:1-3, 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[Blues Man]

It's pretty obvious how old Christianity is.

Jesus became a religious leader at the age of 33 therefore the worship of Jesus Christ began in 33 C.E.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's pretty obvious how old Christianity is.

Jesus became a religious leader at the age of 33 therefore the worship of Jesus Christ began in 33 C.E.

not a chance ... those who died with jesus in the 1st century, their true beliefs -

what have you of that date for jesus, one must understand the true beginning for that answer there will never be a heavenly messiah that is their true contribution they died for -

for christianity that began late 4th century, the christian bible written by the crucifiers included in their book the false heavenly personifications of judaism.

 

[Cougarbear]

most of the religion is borrowed from older beliefs some of them from the old testament but plenty from the "wise men of the east" confucious, buddha, and zoroaster and a large dollop of hellenistic mystery.

here is another 5,000 year old cave painting in egypt. it is a natvity scene.

A cave painting found in Egyptian Sahara depicts a nativity scene 3,000 years before Jesus’ Birth - Arkeonews

5,000-year-old rock art depicting the oldest nativity scene ever found has been found in Egypt's Sahara Desert: A newborn between parents, two animals, and a star in the east.

arkeonews.net

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Nativity scene? Where? You have some tablets with writings of the picture that says it's a man and a virgin conceiving the Son of God in a manger? Such creative minds... Maybe, just maybe, it's Adam and Eve with their first born, Abel?