What happens to US murder rate stats if you take out 'certain' cities.

[theliq]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

 

[frigidweirdo]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

Oh, so when you said "multiculturalism", you meant "I'm a racist fuckwit who tries to use code words to hide their racism".

Thanks for outing yourself so clearly. We all appreciate it.

Wrong again, idiot. We’re talking about European culture, and it’s practice of multiculturalism in importing third worlders from African and Latino countries. Pointing out that multiculturalism is a complete failure in the West doesn’t make one a racist, any more than pointing out that all black countries and all Latino countries have very high crime rates. It’s just accepting an obvious truth. I think African, Latin, and Arab nations could be productive on their own, if they would just embrace their own culture instead of trying to adopt Western culture. Cultures should remain distinct and respect each other if possible.

America worked as a “multicultural” society as long as the predominant cultures were European. After many decades of trying to integrate negros into out culture it’s quite clear now that most of them have no intention of ever becoming productive or accepting European culture as the dominant culture of America. The far left have become so anti-white they now promote every other non-European culture into becoming the dominate culture. They are pushing so hard for whites to become the minority, that’s why they promote open borders for Latinos, Africans, and Muslims. Many of the flaming libs on this board rejoice at the idea. Yet you fools call me a “racist”.

More insults from someone who doesn't have much.

You said multi-culturalism. Then is turns out you don't mean multi-culturalism because you don't understand what the word means.

Crime is higher in Africa and the Americas regardless of how many white people there are. Venezuela has nearly 50% white people and high crime. Go figure.

 

[theHawk]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

 

[theHawk]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

Oh, so when you said "multiculturalism", you meant "I'm a racist fuckwit who tries to use code words to hide their racism".

Thanks for outing yourself so clearly. We all appreciate it.

Wrong again, idiot. We’re talking about European culture, and it’s practice of multiculturalism in importing third worlders from African and Latino countries. Pointing out that multiculturalism is a complete failure in the West doesn’t make one a racist, any more than pointing out that all black countries and all Latino countries have very high crime rates. It’s just accepting an obvious truth. I think African, Latin, and Arab nations could be productive on their own, if they would just embrace their own culture instead of trying to adopt Western culture. Cultures should remain distinct and respect each other if possible.

America worked as a “multicultural” society as long as the predominant cultures were European. After many decades of trying to integrate negros into out culture it’s quite clear now that most of them have no intention of ever becoming productive or accepting European culture as the dominant culture of America. The far left have become so anti-white they now promote every other non-European culture into becoming the dominate culture. They are pushing so hard for whites to become the minority, that’s why they promote open borders for Latinos, Africans, and Muslims. Many of the flaming libs on this board rejoice at the idea. Yet you fools call me a “racist”.

More insults from someone who doesn't have much.

You said multi-culturalism. Then is turns out you don't mean multi-culturalism because you don't understand what the word means.

Crime is higher in Africa and the Americas regardless of how many white people there are. Venezuela has nearly 50% white people and high crime. Go figure.

You lost the arguement. The topic of this thread is US murder rates. So we are talking about multiculturalism in the US. You’re the one that ran and pulled out statistics from from third world countries which has nothing to do with the OP. The funny thing is you are actually proving the OP’s point by admitting predominantly black and Latino countries have high crime rates....guess that makes you the racist. Yes, crime rates in African and Latin countries will remain high regardless of some whites living there because the dominant culture there is still African and Latino.

But, don’t let the facts stop you. Keep importing third world trash into Western countries, I’m sure that will fix all the problems.

 

[toobfreak]

Let's see.

I have facts to back me up.

You have insults.

Your parents must be proud.

You try to make some good points frigid, but there is one fatal flaw in all your stats you overlook:

All these adjustments you make to the European countries to make all the math work out the same ignores the fact that adjustment or not, these European countries are all still essentially Leftist-Socialist. Your adjustments are basically along geographical borders. The point of the OP was an IDEOLOGICAL ONE------ his point was take away the principle progressive / socialist element in this country, to where it is primarily more conservative / constitutionalist, and suddenly our alleged gun crime problem GOES AWAY.

So the OP's assertions remain valid: we don't have a gun problem needing a gun solution, we have a liberal problem needing an ideological solution.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

Oh, so when you said "multiculturalism", you meant "I'm a racist fuckwit who tries to use code words to hide their racism".

Thanks for outing yourself so clearly. We all appreciate it.

Wrong again, idiot. We’re talking about European culture, and it’s practice of multiculturalism in importing third worlders from African and Latino countries. Pointing out that multiculturalism is a complete failure in the West doesn’t make one a racist, any more than pointing out that all black countries and all Latino countries have very high crime rates. It’s just accepting an obvious truth. I think African, Latin, and Arab nations could be productive on their own, if they would just embrace their own culture instead of trying to adopt Western culture. Cultures should remain distinct and respect each other if possible.

America worked as a “multicultural” society as long as the predominant cultures were European. After many decades of trying to integrate negros into out culture it’s quite clear now that most of them have no intention of ever becoming productive or accepting European culture as the dominant culture of America. The far left have become so anti-white they now promote every other non-European culture into becoming the dominate culture. They are pushing so hard for whites to become the minority, that’s why they promote open borders for Latinos, Africans, and Muslims. Many of the flaming libs on this board rejoice at the idea. Yet you fools call me a “racist”.

More insults from someone who doesn't have much.

You said multi-culturalism. Then is turns out you don't mean multi-culturalism because you don't understand what the word means.

Crime is higher in Africa and the Americas regardless of how many white people there are. Venezuela has nearly 50% white people and high crime. Go figure.

You lost the arguement. The topic of this thread is US murder rates. So we are talking about multiculturalism in the US. You’re the one that ran and pulled out statistics from from third world countries which has nothing to do with the OP. The funny thing is you are actually proving the OP’s point by admitting predominantly black and Latino countries have high crime rates....guess that makes you the racist. Yes, crime rates in African and Latin countries will remain high regardless of some whites living there because the dominant culture there is still African and Latino.

But, don’t let the facts stop you. Keep importing third world trash into Western countries, I’m sure that will fix all the problems.

Dude, you're fucking hilarious.

First you say that Multiculturalism is what causes crime and go to EUROPE to "prove" your point. Now you're trying to say that we should only be talking about the US, as if you never mentioned Europe at all.

Second now you're trying to claim this is only multiculturalism in the US. You haven't even bothered to prove this is the case either. Pulling shit out of your ass again.

Third, if the problem is multiculturalism then you'd see a pattern AROUND THE WORLD. Well, I showed you that the argument that you pulled out of your ass is wrong, now you're backtracking saying we have to stick to just the US, AND not only that you say I lost the argument.

You're the one backtracking here.

But hey, let's pretend you had the balls to go out and find your own statistics.

Population Distribution by Race/Ethnicity

1) Vermont, 94% white - 7th lowest for murder
2) West Virginia, 93% white - 24th lowest for murder
3) Maine, 92% white - 2nd lowest for murder
4) New Hampshire, 92% white - 1st lowest for murder
5) Montana, 89% white - 19th lowest for murder

Okay, so, the top five are in the bottom 50% for murder, just. West Virginia... why does it have a higher rate of murder? Montana's not exactly low.

Let's go from the other end.

50) Hawaii, 39% Asian (Probably assuming this is Native Hawaiian) 10th lowest for murder
49) California, 39% Hispanic - 25th lowest for murder
48) Texas, 43% white - 27th lowest for murder
47) New Mexico, 46% Hispanic - 38th lowest for murder
46) Nevada, 52% white - 44th lowest
46) Georgia, 52% white - 36th lowest

So, the murder rates are higher here than they are. However Hawaii is the most ethnically diverse and is 10th lowest for murder, lower than West Virginia and Montana for murders, and yet it far, far more diverse.

Louisiana is the worst state for murders in the US. 59% white, slightly lower than the 61% for the US, but not by much.

This isn't about diversity.

Let's try something else. Let's try POVERTY.

Poverty doesn't necessarily cause crime, however those in poverty are far more likely to be caught and to be convicted in the US.

1) Mississippi, 21.9% of people are in poverty - 46th for murder
2) New Mexico - 38th for murder
3) Louisiana - 50th for murder
4) Alabama - 48th for murder
5) Kentucky - 33rd for murder
6) Arkansas - 41st for murder
7) Georgia - 36th for murder
8) West Virginia - 24th for murder

Now we're seeing a valid pattern. West Virginia is the first state to get down below the 50% line.

Poverty seems to play far more of a part in this.

 

[frigidweirdo]

But, don’t let the facts stop you.

Says the person with no facts that have not been pulled out of your ass to the person posting loads of facts and the source to back it up........

 

[TheParser]

Since some people have touched on this aspect of the topic, I guess that I am allowed to contribute my two bits.

*****

Some people excuse crime by claiming that it is due to poverty.

OK, let's say that a hungry person who steals a loaf of bread should not be punished.

But does that mean that s/he has to also murder the clerk?

*****

During the horrible Depression of the 1930s, there was real poverty.

To the best of my knowledge, most people did NOT go around robbing and assaulting and killing.

IMHO, to attribute violent, senseless acts to poverty is an insult to the victims of those terrible crimes.

 

[theliq]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

 

[theHawk]

If you remove all black and Latino thugs, we are just as low as any Euro country. Race is the biggest determining factor in crime rates.

Multiculturalism should be banned, not guns.

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

Thanks for proving my point. You can’t admit they skew crime statistics. All you can do is scream “racist” for pointing out statistical facts.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

Thanks for proving my point. You can’t admit they skew crime statistics. All you can do is scream “racist” for pointing out statistical facts.

Funny how you ignore most of what I say though. Typical nonsense. You just then end up back in conversations you're comfortable with by saying things like "All you can do is scream racist".

Come on. I presented loads of facts, all you can do is ignore them, change tact, move the goal posts, pretend you didn't make your argument and then insult people because you did all this.

Pathetic.

 

[theHawk]

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

Thanks for proving my point. You can’t admit they skew crime statistics. All you can do is scream “racist” for pointing out statistical facts.

Funny how you ignore most of what I say though. Typical nonsense. You just then end up back in conversations you're comfortable with by saying things like "All you can do is scream racist".

Come on. I presented loads of facts, all you can do is ignore them, change tact, move the goal posts, pretend you didn't make your argument and then insult people because you did all this.

Pathetic.

I didn’t ignore your facts. They just have nothing to do with the OP. They do not change the fact that if you factor out certain cities, which happen to be dominated by blacks or Latinos, then crime statistics in the US as a whole go down dramatically. The fact is importing third world trash into the US, or any other European nation will drive up crime.

 

[2aguy]

The actual facts...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

Original post: Every place that has been banned guns (either all guns or all handguns) has seen murder rates go up. You cannot point to one place where murder rates have fallen, whether it’s Chicago or D.C. or even island nations such as England, Jamaica, or Ireland.

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population,” UPDATED numbers available here).

After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. Firearm homicide rate had almost doubled between 1996 and 2002 (see here p. 11). The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the hugeincrease in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

 

[theliq]

Really?

So, basically we should see HIGHER crime rates with multiculturalism and LOWER crime rates with less multi-culturalism?

Number one on the murder list is el Salvador. Multicultural?

No. It's 86% Mestizo.

Number two is Honduras, 90% Mestizo

Number three is Venezuela, 51.6% Mestizo, 43.6% white

Number four is Jamaica, 92.1% black

Number five is Lesotho, 99.7% black.

Number six in Belieze 52% Mestizo

Do you know what they all have in common?

They're Christian countries.

They're not all particularly diverse.


List of countries ranked by ethnic and cultural diversity level - Wikipedia

Here's some attempts at putting how people see each other by ethnicity. So, Lesotho, 99.7% black gets a score of 0.255, 0 being not diverse and 1 being totally diverse.

Uganda is the most diverse country in the list (the last list, based on ethnicity, not religion or language).

Uganda has a murder rate of 11.84. Not low by any stretch of the imagination. Makes it 33rd in the world. But you'd be expecting it to be right near the top.

Liberia is second for diversity, a murder rate of 3.22, lower than the US's murder rate.

Madagascar is 3rd for diversity and a murder rate of 0.62, lower than most Europe countries.

Somehow I think your theory isn't right.

But hey, let's cut out all the second and third world countries.

Canada is the most diverse first world country for diversity, murder rate of 1.68 which is kind of high for first world countries.

Belgium is second for ethnicity, 1.95, again, quite high for first world countries.

Switzerland is 3rd for ethnicity, 0.69 for murder rate makes it quite low

Luxembourg is 4th for ethnicity, 0.72 makes it a little below average.

None of these have a murder rate anywhere near the US's level.

Though, again, the top 25 countries on the list of highest murder rates are CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

The first non-Christian country is the Ivory Coast which is 39% Muslim, 33% Christian.

Then you go right down to Mali for the first country without any real Christianity in it. That's 42nd on the list (which includes places that aren't countries).

So, NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING proves you right.

Good lord can you be any more dense? Notice all those places you listed are black and Latino. Seeing a pattern yet genius? Homogeneous European and Asian countries don’t have such high crime rates, as long as they don’t import trash from other cultures.

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

Thanks for proving my point. You can’t admit they skew crime statistics. All you can do is scream “racist” for pointing out statistical facts.

I stand by my facts

 

[frigidweirdo]

You are racist Fool,you live in a Country who has Demonized different ethnic peoples,BLACKS,well you brought and Bought them as Slaves,and up until recent years made Lynching an Art Form with BLACK AMERICANS,REPRESSED THEM VIOLENTLY and other minorities,BRUTALIZED THEM and TREATED THEM WITH HATE AND DISTASTE.......and you now complain that THEY ARE VIOLENT..........You whinge about the population growth of (LETS NOT MINCE WORDS HERE YOU MEAN BLACK PEOPLE)Black people and their attitude and some violence to WHITES,are you a complete MORON.....They are only doing to you what YOU DID TO THEM only they do it milder way,put yourself in a BLACK Families situation and the way they have been mistreated over the years.............You see methinks you MOAN TOO MUCH...You don't need More Prisons you fool,you need to ROOT OUT the cause of Violence,Poverty,lack of Education and Opportunity,would be a good start.....Fancy an Australian having to explain the basic needs of a human being and a community in a Multi Cultural Society (WHICH YOU SAY DOESN'T WORK,I does but you are too LaZY AND IGNORANT TO MAKE IT WORK) It does here in Australia because were care and enjoy the differences in all our cutural heritages......BUT THEN AUSTRALIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY SOCIAL ARENAS........including NO GUNS=NO GUN DEATHS,+THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.....A TRUELY GREAT ACHIEVEMENT>>>>BUT IT TAKES WILL AND WILLINGNESS TOGETHER TO BE WINNERS......SOMETHING AMERICA HAS LOST UNFORTUNEATELY........THERE IS NO I IN US

Typical liberal banter. Blame everything on slavery from 170 years ago.
More money thrown at education and welfare services....yea, that hasn’t worked. It’s laughable that you compare Australia to the US for statistics. Another rant on gun confiscation as if that has ever proven to lower crime rates. Guns in America save millions of lives from being taken from criminals. The only reason the US’s crime rates are so high are because of blacks and Latinos, a fact you liberals refuse to acknowledge.

YOU ARE A RACIST MORON,AKA A WHITE REGGIN,work it out(thought you'd like a taste of your own Banal Medicine)......you would be Banned Entry into AUSTRALIA

Thanks for proving my point. You can’t admit they skew crime statistics. All you can do is scream “racist” for pointing out statistical facts.

Funny how you ignore most of what I say though. Typical nonsense. You just then end up back in conversations you're comfortable with by saying things like "All you can do is scream racist".

Come on. I presented loads of facts, all you can do is ignore them, change tact, move the goal posts, pretend you didn't make your argument and then insult people because you did all this.

Pathetic.

I didn’t ignore your facts. They just have nothing to do with the OP. They do not change the fact that if you factor out certain cities, which happen to be dominated by blacks or Latinos, then crime statistics in the US as a whole go down dramatically. The fact is importing third world trash into the US, or any other European nation will drive up crime.

So, if they have nothing to do with the OP, why was you post prior to these facts, full of stuff that had nothing to do with the OP?

You say "It's all about multiculturalism", apparently this has nothing to do with the OP because when I proved you WRONG, you then say this has nothing to do with the OP.

So basically you're just talking crap. Well, at least, this is YOUR version of events.

But I'll tell you what.

Seeing as you have NO interest in actually discussing this like a man, I'll just leave you to play childish games of "no, it wasn't me" on your own. Okay?

Bye.

 

[theliq]

The actual facts...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

Original post: Every place that has been banned guns (either all guns or all handguns) has seen murder rates go up. You cannot point to one place where murder rates have fallen, whether it’s Chicago or D.C. or even island nations such as England, Jamaica, or Ireland.

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population,” UPDATED numbers available here).

After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. Firearm homicide rate had almost doubled between 1996 and 2002 (see here p. 11). The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the hugeincrease in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

Maybe in Mentally Retarded America(Which I Doubt your stats anyway)....BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN AUSTRALIA,but then Australians are just a cut above Americans,,,,ALWAYS

 

[2aguy]

The actual facts...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

Original post: Every place that has been banned guns (either all guns or all handguns) has seen murder rates go up. You cannot point to one place where murder rates have fallen, whether it’s Chicago or D.C. or even island nations such as England, Jamaica, or Ireland.

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population,” UPDATED numbers available here).

After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. Firearm homicide rate had almost doubled between 1996 and 2002 (see here p. 11). The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the hugeincrease in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

Maybe in Mentally Retarded America(Which I Doubt your stats anyway)....BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN AUSTRALIA,but then Australians are just a cut above Americans,,,,ALWAYS

Gun crime rates are going up in Australia, and dumb luck has kept Australia from about a dozen mass shootings...

 

[theliq]

The actual facts...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

Original post: Every place that has been banned guns (either all guns or all handguns) has seen murder rates go up. You cannot point to one place where murder rates have fallen, whether it’s Chicago or D.C. or even island nations such as England, Jamaica, or Ireland.

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population,” UPDATED numbers available here).

After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. Firearm homicide rate had almost doubled between 1996 and 2002 (see here p. 11). The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the hugeincrease in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

Maybe in Mentally Retarded America(Which I Doubt your stats anyway)....BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN AUSTRALIA,but then Australians are just a cut above Americans,,,,ALWAYS

Gun crime rates are going up in Australia, and dumb luck has kept Australia from about a dozen mass shootings...

You would say THAT,of course you would,it could be that Australians are more educated and civilized....You Fail We Win,by the way our Gun Crime is still on a Downward trend....There is NO SUCH THING AS DUMB LUCK in a highly educated population,just sense and sensibility ....WE WIN,YOU JUST KEEP ON LOSING .>>>>>>>LOSER........now you can stick you Head back up your ASS

 

[2aguy]

The actual facts...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

Original post: Every place that has been banned guns (either all guns or all handguns) has seen murder rates go up. You cannot point to one place where murder rates have fallen, whether it’s Chicago or D.C. or even island nations such as England, Jamaica, or Ireland.

For an example of homicide rates before and after a ban, take the case of the handgun ban in England and Wales in January 1997 (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked “Offences currently recorded as homicide per million population,” UPDATED numbers available here).

After the ban, clearly homicide rates bounce around over time, but there is only one year (2010) where the homicide rate is lower than it was in 1996. The immediate effect was about a 50 percent increase in homicide rates. Firearm homicide rate had almost doubled between 1996 and 2002 (see here p. 11). The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the hugeincrease in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate.

Maybe in Mentally Retarded America(Which I Doubt your stats anyway)....BUT CERTAINLY NOT IN AUSTRALIA,but then Australians are just a cut above Americans,,,,ALWAYS

Gun crime rates are going up in Australia, and dumb luck has kept Australia from about a dozen mass shootings...

You would say THAT,of course you would,it could be that Australians are more educated and civilized....You Fail We Win,by the way our Gun Crime is still on a Downward trend....There is NO SUCH THING AS DUMB LUCK in a highly educated population,just sense and sensibility ....WE WIN,YOU JUST KEEP ON LOSING .>>>>>>>LOSER........now you can stick you Head back up your ASS

Australia has growing gun crime and the public shootings they have had will eventually lead to mass shootings....and they will be horrible because your people are unarmed...