What Everyone Should Know About Budget Deficits and Public Debt

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We are subjected constantly to threatening talk by politicians and media personalities about budget deficits and public debt. Budget surpluses, or at least balanced budgets, are touted as fiscally responsible, whereas deficits are painted as burdensome and unsustainable. This framing of the debate appears to be bearing fruit for the 1 percent it is intended to serve. For instance, a recent American survey reveals that almost half those polled opposed an increase in the debt ceiling to facilitate deficit spending while a further third of respondents indicated uncertainty on the issue. This is despite concern among respondents over what a refusal to raise the debt ceiling would mean for the economy. This suggests that people do not necessarily oppose the deficit spending other than for the supposed "affordability" issues they think it poses. In reality, there is no affordability issue and nothing inherently responsible in balancing the budget. To the contrary, such a move would be burdensome in the extreme, as well as unsustainable. Particularly at a time of high joblessness and underemployment, efforts to reduce rather than increase the deficit are the height of irresponsibility.

In most nations, including the U.S., the government can never run out of money. In the present discussion, 'government' shall be taken to mean the consolidated government sector, which includes the fiscal and monetary authorities. In the U.S., for instance, the federal government includes Congress, which authorizes taxing and spending measures, and the Federal Reserve, which serves as the monetary agent of Congress. The U.S. government, and most other national governments, can never run out of money because they are the original sources of the money they spend. They issue their own currencies. Exceptions are state governments and member nations of the European Monetary Union, who are mere users of currencies, not issuers of them.

The fact that a government can never run out of its own money does not mean that any level of government spending is unproblematic, or that all government spending is good. But it does mean that deficits and surpluses need to be thought about in a different way than politicians and journalists would have us believe.

National governments such as the U.S. federal government are sovereign in their own currencies because of the following factors:

1. The government is the sole creator and destroyer of its own money. It creates money when it spends and destroys money when it taxes.

2. The exchange rate of the currency is allowed to float on international currency markets. As a consequence, fiscal and monetary policy are not constrained by a requirement to maintain a fixed exchange rate.

3. The government does not borrow significant amounts in foreign currencies. It does not need any other entity's currency in order to spend, and so has no need to borrow in other currencies.

Reflecting on these three factors for a moment turns the normal way fiscal issues are presented to us on its head. According to most politicians and media, the government needs to tax or borrow before it can spend. Taxing and borrowing, it is claimed, are funding measures. This framing of the policy debate plays right into the hands of the 1 percent, because it makes it seem as if popular policies such as social security, public education, public health care and public infrastructure might be unaffordable due to a lack of money, when in reality only a lack of real resources could ever truly make these policies unaffordable.

For a currency sovereign such as the U.S. government, the truth is the opposite of the story normally presented to us. Until the government's money has been created, no taxes could be paid and no government money could be borrowed.

The consolidated government sector creates money when it spends or lends. Once government money has been created, it becomes possible for the government to receive back tax payments or "borrow" back its money from the non-government sector.

Here, the non-government sector is defined to include both the domestic private sector (households and businesses) and the external sector (foreign individuals, businesses and governments). In short, we in the non-government cannot pay taxes or purchase government debt until we have obtained the government's money, and this is impossible prior to its creation through government spending or lending.

So, as a matter of logic, government spending or lending is prior to taxation and public borrowing. Taxes and public borrowing do not -- and could not -- fund government spending or public lending. It is the other way round.

The government spends by crediting private bank accounts, or, equivalently, by paying checks to citizens that, once cleared, result in credits to private bank accounts. As a consequence, private banks will have more deposits and a corresponding amount of additional reserves. The latter are held in special accounts with the central bank. Since private bank deposits and reserves are financial assets of the non-government, government spending when considered in isolation causes an increase in non-government holdings of financial assets. Government spending creates financial assets.

Conversely, the government taxes by debiting private bank accounts. There is a corresponding reduction in private bank deposits and the reserves of private banks. Considered in isolation, taxation causes a decrease in non-government holdings of financial assets. Taxes destroy financial assets.

A budget deficit occurs when the government spends more than it taxes. The net result is an overall increase in financial assets held by the non-government. In other words, budget deficits increase net financial assets. Budget surpluses do the reverse, and balanced budgets keep the level of net financial assets constant.

Under current practice, the government matches any deficit with borrowing by issuing public debt. In effect, the extra bank reserves created by the deficit are exchanged for government securities. The net impact is that the non-government, taken as a whole, possesses more financial assets than it did before the deficit spending, but the extra financial assets are normally held in the form of securities rather than reserves. The qualifier "normally" is added because under some circumstances, including the present, some central banks are choosing to buy back previously issued government debt by crediting reserve accounts, thereby expanding the amount of reserves in the system (referred to as quantitative easing).

In aggregate, net financial assets comprise currency, reserves and government securities. The reason is that all other financial assets – private financial assets – are matched by private liabilities and so net to zero. For example, a private bank deposit is an asset of its owner but a liability of the bank, netting to zero for the non-government as a whole.

Operations such as public debt issuance and quantitative easing alter the composition of non-government net financial assets but leave the overall level of net financial assets unaffected. Debt issuance converts reserves held by the non-government into government securities. Quantitative easing does the reverse. Since both reserves and government securities are financial assets of the non-government, moving between them does not affect the non-government's total holdings of net financial assets.

The current practice of matching deficit expenditure with public debt is unnecessary. Rather than issuing debt, the government could simply allow the extra financial assets to remain in the form of reserves rather than securities and pay the target rate of interest on reserves. This would make it more obvious to members of the general community that there is no funding difficulty for the government. No doubt this is the 1 percent's real motive in continuing the charade of public debt issuance.

In any case, whether the government issues debt or not, the economic impact of the budget deficit will be the same. The non-government will have more financial wealth and so more capacity to spend. If greater spending occurs, there will be a boost to output and employment. Alternatively, the non-government might prefer to increase its rate of saving. Or, more likely, some combination of higher private spending and saving will occur. At a time when many households are overly indebted, increased private expenditure and increased saving to meet debt obligations are both desirable effects, and deficit spending makes both possible.

With all the above in mind, it becomes clear that government debt is not really "debt" in the way debt is usually conceived. If you or I (or a private household) are in debt, our means to pay it back are either (i) income we have earned or revenue we have received, (ii) past savings, or (iii) an additional loan to cover the earlier one. There is always a danger here of our debt becoming impossible to repay. If we lose our job, run out of savings or can't obtain another loan, we may be forced to default.

The situation is very different in the case of a sovereign government. It can never become impossible for the government to make its debt repayments. The government does not need to obtain tax revenue in order to make payments. It does not need nor benefit from prior "savings" of tax revenues. The government can never have more nor less financial capacity to spend, irrespective of past spending and revenue flows. It simply repays debt plus interest as payments fall due through the issuance of government money.

In short, the government, unlike a private household, is not revenue constrained. For this reason, comparing governments to households on fiscal matters is incorrect as well as being counterproductive if it influences economic policy or our choices at the polling booth.

The important question when it comes to government policy does not concern money but whether the necessary real resources are available. A shortage of doctors and nurses would place a limit on the health care system. A shortage of teachers would do the same in the case of education. And so on.

All this raises a question. If taxes do not fund government spending, why are they necessary?

At the most fundamental level, it is the enforcement of tax payments that ensures a demand for the government's money. By enforcing a tax obligation, the government ensures that we need to obtain its money, even if only to pay our taxes.

This gives the government the capacity to move some resources, including labor services, from the private to public sector. Some workers will be willing to work for the government in order to obtain money. For the same reason, some businesses will be willing to sell goods and services to the government.

Since we already have a need for the government's money to make tax payments, there will also tend to be a general willingness to make private transactions in the same money or in other monies convertible at par into government money (e.g. private bank deposits) rather than look for some other, alternative money. In this way, people who do not transact directly with the government can obtain the government's money indirectly through private exchange of goods and services with those who do.

Beyond meeting the tax obligation, it is not strictly necessary that we use the government's money the rest of the time. As long as the government can move the desired resources to the public sector – as determined through the democratic process – the currency we use for other transactions among ourselves is not of absolute concern.

Nevertheless, for convenience and safety, we generally do transact in the government's money or near equivalents such as private bank deposits. The government's money remains trustworthy provided the tax obligation is effectively enforced.

In addition to making tax payments, many of us in the private domestic sector desire to save in the national currency. In aggregate, it is only possible for us to spend less than we earn – that is, to be in surplus – if at least one other sector runs a deficit. This follows from a basic accounting identity:

Private Sector Surplus + Government Surplus + External Surplus = 0

Most nations tend to run an external deficit. This means that the domestic private sector can only maintain a surplus if the government runs a deficit larger than the external deficit:

Private Sector Surplus = Government Deficit – External Deficit

In general, budget deficits are appropriate whenever private domestic spending and export demand are insufficient to ensure full employment. The presence of unemployment indicates that we intend to save more and spend less than is consistent with full employment.

The consolidated government sector is in a unique position to alter the capacity of the private sector to spend while remaining in surplus. By increasing government spending, cutting taxes, or some combination, the government enables both extra spending and extra private saving.

If, instead, there happened to be full employment, and the government attempted to increase spending or cut taxes, the result would be an increase in prices with no real benefit in terms of output, employment or saving. In effect, the government would be attempting to purchase resources that were already being used by the private sector, and this would bid up prices.

In such a situation, a further transfer of resources from the private to public sector would be inflationary unless taxes were increased. Higher taxes would take away some of our spending power and leave more room for non-inflationary public expenditure.

In other words, the constraint on government deficit expenditure is inflation, which depends on the availability of real resources, not a lack of money. Inflation will occur if the government attempts to use real resources that are already employed in the private sector without increasing taxes.

In a situation like the present, though, with significant unemployment and many workers consigned to part-time jobs when they actually want full-time ones, there is plenty of scope to increase production without the expenditure being inflationary.

The main takeaways are these:

1. The government is not revenue constrained. Claims of the U.S. government (and most other governments) running out of money or getting irretrievably into debt need to be recognized for the nonsense they are. There is no need for us to be tricked into voting for either higher taxes on workers or cuts in public services, education, health care, public transport, welfare, social infrastructure – the list could go on … – if we keep this simple fact about the monetary system in mind.

2. A budget deficit or surplus in itself is neither good nor bad. It can only be assessed in relation to the economic situation. Currently, unemployment and underemployment prevail. This indicates that in most nations the budget deficit is too small, not too large. This creates no real difficulty for the government but can give rise to a political obstacle if we are silly enough to fall for stunts such as the debt ceiling battle that, in reality, are played out precisely to deceive us into supporting austerity measures directly at odds with our own welfare.

What Everyone Should Know About Budget Deficits and Public Debt | heteconomist.com

A Closely Related Presentation By Randall Wray

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35uBVeNp6c"]L. Randall Wray -- Modern Money: the way a sovereign currency "works" [/ame]
 
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We are subjected constantly to threatening talk by politicians and media personalities about budget deficits and public debt. Budget surpluses, or at least balanced budgets, are touted as fiscally responsible, whereas deficits are painted as burdensome and unsustainable. This framing of the debate appears to be bearing fruit for the 1 percent it is intended to serve. For instance, a recent American survey reveals that almost half those polled opposed an increase in the debt ceiling to facilitate deficit spending while a further third of respondents indicated uncertainty on the issue. This is despite concern among respondents over what a refusal to raise the debt ceiling would mean for the economy. This suggests that people do not necessarily oppose the deficit spending other than for the supposed "affordability" issues they think it poses. In reality, there is no affordability issue and nothing inherently responsible in balancing the budget. To the contrary, such a move would be burdensome in the extreme, as well as unsustainable. Particularly at a time of high joblessness and underemployment, efforts to reduce rather than increase the deficit are the height of irresponsibility.

In most nations, including the U.S., the government can never run out of money. In the present discussion, 'government' shall be taken to mean the consolidated government sector, which includes the fiscal and monetary authorities. In the U.S., for instance, the federal government includes Congress, which authorizes taxing and spending measures, and the Federal Reserve, which serves as the monetary agent of Congress. The U.S. government, and most other national governments, can never run out of money because they are the original sources of the money they spend. They issue their own currencies. Exceptions are state governments and member nations of the European Monetary Union, who are mere users of currencies, not issuers of them.

The fact that a government can never run out of its own money does not mean that any level of government spending is unproblematic, or that all government spending is good. But it does mean that deficits and surpluses need to be thought about in a different way than politicians and journalists would have us believe.

National governments such as the U.S. federal government are sovereign in their own currencies because of the following factors:

1. The government is the sole creator and destroyer of its own money. It creates money when it spends and destroys money when it taxes.

2. The exchange rate of the currency is allowed to float on international currency markets. As a consequence, fiscal and monetary policy are not constrained by a requirement to maintain a fixed exchange rate.

3. The government does not borrow significant amounts in foreign currencies. It does not need any other entity's currency in order to spend, and so has no need to borrow in other currencies.

Reflecting on these three factors for a moment turns the normal way fiscal issues are presented to us on its head. According to most politicians and media, the government needs to tax or borrow before it can spend. Taxing and borrowing, it is claimed, are funding measures. This framing of the policy debate plays right into the hands of the 1 percent, because it makes it seem as if popular policies such as social security, public education, public health care and public infrastructure might be unaffordable due to a lack of money, when in reality only a lack of real resources could ever truly make these policies unaffordable.

For a currency sovereign such as the U.S. government, the truth is the opposite of the story normally presented to us. Until the government's money has been created, no taxes could be paid and no government money could be borrowed.

The consolidated government sector creates money when it spends or lends. Once government money has been created, it becomes possible for the government to receive back tax payments or "borrow" back its money from the non-government sector.

Here, the non-government sector is defined to include both the domestic private sector (households and businesses) and the external sector (foreign individuals, businesses and governments). In short, we in the non-government cannot pay taxes or purchase government debt until we have obtained the government's money, and this is impossible prior to its creation through government spending or lending.

So, as a matter of logic, government spending or lending is prior to taxation and public borrowing. Taxes and public borrowing do not -- and could not -- fund government spending or public lending. It is the other way round.

The government spends by crediting private bank accounts, or, equivalently, by paying checks to citizens that, once cleared, result in credits to private bank accounts. As a consequence, private banks will have more deposits and a corresponding amount of additional reserves. The latter are held in special accounts with the central bank. Since private bank deposits and reserves are financial assets of the non-government, government spending when considered in isolation causes an increase in non-government holdings of financial assets. Government spending creates financial assets.

Conversely, the government taxes by debiting private bank accounts. There is a corresponding reduction in private bank deposits and the reserves of private banks. Considered in isolation, taxation causes a decrease in non-government holdings of financial assets. Taxes destroy financial assets.

A budget deficit occurs when the government spends more than it taxes. The net result is an overall increase in financial assets held by the non-government. In other words, budget deficits increase net financial assets. Budget surpluses do the reverse, and balanced budgets keep the level of net financial assets constant.

Under current practice, the government matches any deficit with borrowing by issuing public debt. In effect, the extra bank reserves created by the deficit are exchanged for government securities. The net impact is that the non-government, taken as a whole, possesses more financial assets than it did before the deficit spending, but the extra financial assets are normally held in the form of securities rather than reserves. The qualifier "normally" is added because under some circumstances, including the present, some central banks are choosing to buy back previously issued government debt by crediting reserve accounts, thereby expanding the amount of reserves in the system (referred to as quantitative easing).

In aggregate, net financial assets comprise currency, reserves and government securities. The reason is that all other financial assets – private financial assets – are matched by private liabilities and so net to zero. For example, a private bank deposit is an asset of its owner but a liability of the bank, netting to zero for the non-government as a whole.

Operations such as public debt issuance and quantitative easing alter the composition of non-government net financial assets but leave the overall level of net financial assets unaffected. Debt issuance converts reserves held by the non-government into government securities. Quantitative easing does the reverse. Since both reserves and government securities are financial assets of the non-government, moving between them does not affect the non-government's total holdings of net financial assets.

The current practice of matching deficit expenditure with public debt is unnecessary. Rather than issuing debt, the government could simply allow the extra financial assets to remain in the form of reserves rather than securities and pay the target rate of interest on reserves. This would make it more obvious to members of the general community that there is no funding difficulty for the government. No doubt this is the 1 percent's real motive in continuing the charade of public debt issuance.

In any case, whether the government issues debt or not, the economic impact of the budget deficit will be the same. The non-government will have more financial wealth and so more capacity to spend. If greater spending occurs, there will be a boost to output and employment. Alternatively, the non-government might prefer to increase its rate of saving. Or, more likely, some combination of higher private spending and saving will occur. At a time when many households are overly indebted, increased private expenditure and increased saving to meet debt obligations are both desirable effects, and deficit spending makes both possible.

With all the above in mind, it becomes clear that government debt is not really "debt" in the way debt is usually conceived. If you or I (or a private household) are in debt, our means to pay it back are either (i) income we have earned or revenue we have received, (ii) past savings, or (iii) an additional loan to cover the earlier one. There is always a danger here of our debt becoming impossible to repay. If we lose our job, run out of savings or can't obtain another loan, we may be forced to default.

The situation is very different in the case of a sovereign government. It can never become impossible for the government to make its debt repayments. The government does not need to obtain tax revenue in order to make payments. It does not need nor benefit from prior "savings" of tax revenues. The government can never have more nor less financial capacity to spend, irrespective of past spending and revenue flows. It simply repays debt plus interest as payments fall due through the issuance of government money.

In short, the government, unlike a private household, is not revenue constrained. For this reason, comparing governments to households on fiscal matters is incorrect as well as being counterproductive if it influences economic policy or our choices at the polling booth.

The important question when it comes to government policy does not concern money but whether the necessary real resources are available. A shortage of doctors and nurses would place a limit on the health care system. A shortage of teachers would do the same in the case of education. And so on.

All this raises a question. If taxes do not fund government spending, why are they necessary?

At the most fundamental level, it is the enforcement of tax payments that ensures a demand for the government's money. By enforcing a tax obligation, the government ensures that we need to obtain its money, even if only to pay our taxes.

This gives the government the capacity to move some resources, including labor services, from the private to public sector. Some workers will be willing to work for the government in order to obtain money. For the same reason, some businesses will be willing to sell goods and services to the government.

Since we already have a need for the government's money to make tax payments, there will also tend to be a general willingness to make private transactions in the same money or in other monies convertible at par into government money (e.g. private bank deposits) rather than look for some other, alternative money. In this way, people who do not transact directly with the government can obtain the government's money indirectly through private exchange of goods and services with those who do.

Beyond meeting the tax obligation, it is not strictly necessary that we use the government's money the rest of the time. As long as the government can move the desired resources to the public sector – as determined through the democratic process – the currency we use for other transactions among ourselves is not of absolute concern.

Nevertheless, for convenience and safety, we generally do transact in the government's money or near equivalents such as private bank deposits. The government's money remains trustworthy provided the tax obligation is effectively enforced.

In addition to making tax payments, many of us in the private domestic sector desire to save in the national currency. In aggregate, it is only possible for us to spend less than we earn – that is, to be in surplus – if at least one other sector runs a deficit. This follows from a basic accounting identity:

Private Sector Surplus + Government Surplus + External Surplus = 0

Most nations tend to run an external deficit. This means that the domestic private sector can only maintain a surplus if the government runs a deficit larger than the external deficit:

Private Sector Surplus = Government Deficit – External Deficit

In general, budget deficits are appropriate whenever private domestic spending and export demand are insufficient to ensure full employment. The presence of unemployment indicates that we intend to save more and spend less than is consistent with full employment.

The consolidated government sector is in a unique position to alter the capacity of the private sector to spend while remaining in surplus. By increasing government spending, cutting taxes, or some combination, the government enables both extra spending and extra private saving.

If, instead, there happened to be full employment, and the government attempted to increase spending or cut taxes, the result would be an increase in prices with no real benefit in terms of output, employment or saving. In effect, the government would be attempting to purchase resources that were already being used by the private sector, and this would bid up prices.

In such a situation, a further transfer of resources from the private to public sector would be inflationary unless taxes were increased. Higher taxes would take away some of our spending power and leave more room for non-inflationary public expenditure.

In other words, the constraint on government deficit expenditure is inflation, which depends on the availability of real resources, not a lack of money. Inflation will occur if the government attempts to use real resources that are already employed in the private sector without increasing taxes.

In a situation like the present, though, with significant unemployment and many workers consigned to part-time jobs when they actually want full-time ones, there is plenty of scope to increase production without the expenditure being inflationary.

The main takeaways are these:

1. The government is not revenue constrained. Claims of the U.S. government (and most other governments) running out of money or getting irretrievably into debt need to be recognized for the nonsense they are. There is no need for us to be tricked into voting for either higher taxes on workers or cuts in public services, education, health care, public transport, welfare, social infrastructure – the list could go on … – if we keep this simple fact about the monetary system in mind.

2. A budget deficit or surplus in itself is neither good nor bad. It can only be assessed in relation to the economic situation. Currently, unemployment and underemployment prevail. This indicates that in most nations the budget deficit is too small, not too large. This creates no real difficulty for the government but can give rise to a political obstacle if we are silly enough to fall for stunts such as the debt ceiling battle that, in reality, are played out precisely to deceive us into supporting austerity measures directly at odds with our own welfare.

What Everyone Should Know About Budget Deficits and Public Debt | heteconomist.com

A Closely Related Presentation By Randall Wray

L. Randall Wray -- Modern Money: the way a sovereign currency "works"
Great overview. Thanks for the thorough explanation. A little reality is really worth the time to read and understand what is going on. Too many love to equate their personal finances with the government finances. And for purposes of making the wealthy more so, it has some value. In terms of making the economy strong, and in terms of helping revitalize the middle class, it is a hindrance. Though it does not take long to understand who wins and who loses, assuming you really care.
 
The main takeaways are these:

1. The government is not revenue constrained. Claims of the U.S. government (and most other governments) running out of money or getting irretrievably into debt need to be recognized for the nonsense they are. There is no need for us to be tricked into voting for either higher taxes on workers or cuts in public services, education, health care, public transport, welfare, social infrastructure – the list could go on … – if we keep this simple fact about the monetary system in mind.

2. A budget deficit or surplus in itself is neither good nor bad. It can only be assessed in relation to the economic situation. Currently, unemployment and underemployment prevail. This indicates that in most nations the budget deficit is too small, not too large. This creates no real difficulty for the government but can give rise to a political obstacle if we are silly enough to fall for stunts such as the debt ceiling battle that, in reality, are played out precisely to deceive us into supporting austerity measures directly at odds with our own welfare.

Congratulations on an excellent primer on how budget and monetary policy work! A few comments:

It's good to use a two-sector model as you have to enable people to grasp the basic principles involved. When the model becomes more detailed, much to today's problems emerge. For example, lumping everything into one government sector creates an illusion that government policy is unitary. In fact, much of America's problem today is that the budget (government spending and tax policy) is controlled by Congress, which at least in the Republican controlled House, has an economic world-view and policy agenda shared by no other part of government (opposition to public debt, desire to reduce the role of government in the economy, desire to redistribute income upward); monetary policy is controlled by the Federal Reserve, which still is hypersensitive to inflation and the interests of the largest banks, while attempting some stimulus, and paying lip service to while ignoring its regulatory responsibilities; the Treasury which executes fiscal policy, has some financial regulatory responsibility and should be the leader in economic policy seems to be taking a back seat to the Fed while competing with the Fed in ignoring its regulatory duties and gutting financial reform; and an assortment of other government agencies (FDIC, FHAA, SEC, etc. ) which seem tied up in their own worlds while the clock ticks down to the next disaster (FDIC under Sheila Bair being the shining exception).

And the President, who is ultimately responsible for coordinating this royal rumble appears to have no clear concept of how an economy works and exhibits intense loyalty to a few individuals bought and paid for by Wall Street with little to no interest in general economic recovery who are primarily responsible for the fact that there is no robust recovery five years out. He dreams of a "grand bargain" which would beggar the economy, redistribute wealth dramatically upward, and cripple demand and growth for decades; while believing in some sort of magical thinking that these programs would work out and assure his political legacy.

Similarly, when we disaggregate the "private sector" into households, finance, and business; a similar set opposing goals are revealed. The finance sector is perfectly happy to demolish the business sector in the interests of globalization and concentration, absorbing an ever-increasing share of corporate profits and driving monopoly capitalism and outlaw finance to shocking levels of unaccountability. The household sector has turned into the Derry cow, bled each Sunday, and grow sufficiently disillusioned and desperate that it drifts into reaction, looks of the man on the white horse, and ultimately sees political fascism as its salvation.

We are not there yet, but much closer than most realize. I have been through periods like this before, and we have survived, but not without permanent damage to our economy, our social fabric, and our political institutions, not to mention millions of ruined lives. But some groups and individuals, like the Thenardiers, will prosper from the tumult. Just remember that the heros of Victor Hugo are all dead at the end, the uprising failed, and the society in the hands of reaction.
 
The main takeaways are these:

1. The government is not revenue constrained. Claims of the U.S. government (and most other governments) running out of money or getting irretrievably into debt need to be recognized for the nonsense they are. There is no need for us to be tricked into voting for either higher taxes on workers or cuts in public services, education, health care, public transport, welfare, social infrastructure – the list could go on … – if we keep this simple fact about the monetary system in mind.

2. A budget deficit or surplus in itself is neither good nor bad. It can only be assessed in relation to the economic situation. Currently, unemployment and underemployment prevail. This indicates that in most nations the budget deficit is too small, not too large. This creates no real difficulty for the government but can give rise to a political obstacle if we are silly enough to fall for stunts such as the debt ceiling battle that, in reality, are played out precisely to deceive us into supporting austerity measures directly at odds with our own welfare.

Congratulations on an excellent primer on how budget and monetary policy work! A few comments:

It's good to use a two-sector model as you have to enable people to grasp the basic principles involved. When the model becomes more detailed, much to today's problems emerge. For example, lumping everything into one government sector creates an illusion that government policy is unitary. In fact, much of America's problem today is that the budget (government spending and tax policy) is controlled by Congress, which at least in the Republican controlled House, has an economic world-view and policy agenda shared by no other part of government (opposition to public debt, desire to reduce the role of government in the economy, desire to redistribute income upward); monetary policy is controlled by the Federal Reserve, which still is hypersensitive to inflation and the interests of the largest banks, while attempting some stimulus, and paying lip service to while ignoring its regulatory responsibilities; the Treasury which executes fiscal policy, has some financial regulatory responsibility and should be the leader in economic policy seems to be taking a back seat to the Fed while competing with the Fed in ignoring its regulatory duties and gutting financial reform; and an assortment of other government agencies (FDIC, FHAA, SEC, etc. ) which seem tied up in their own worlds while the clock ticks down to the next disaster (FDIC under Sheila Bair being the shining exception).

And the President, who is ultimately responsible for coordinating this royal rumble appears to have no clear concept of how an economy works and exhibits intense loyalty to a few individuals bought and paid for by Wall Street with little to no interest in general economic recovery who are primarily responsible for the fact that there is no robust recovery five years out. He dreams of a "grand bargain" which would beggar the economy, redistribute wealth dramatically upward, and cripple demand and growth for decades; while believing in some sort of magical thinking that these programs would work out and assure his political legacy.

Similarly, when we disaggregate the "private sector" into households, finance, and business; a similar set opposing goals are revealed. The finance sector is perfectly happy to demolish the business sector in the interests of globalization and concentration, absorbing an ever-increasing share of corporate profits and driving monopoly capitalism and outlaw finance to shocking levels of unaccountability. The household sector has turned into the Derry cow, bled each Sunday, and grow sufficiently disillusioned and desperate that it drifts into reaction, looks of the man on the white horse, and ultimately sees political fascism as its salvation.

We are not there yet, but much closer than most realize. I have been through periods like this before, and we have survived, but not without permanent damage to our economy, our social fabric, and our political institutions, not to mention millions of ruined lives. But some groups and individuals, like the Thenardiers, will prosper from the tumult. Just remember that the heros of Victor Hugo are all dead at the end, the uprising failed, and the society in the hands of reaction.

That's a very thorough summation. MMT uses a three sector model for the purposes of basic macroaccounting . It consists of the domestic private sector, domestic government sector, and the foreign or external sector (foreign governments, firms, households, and individuals). The model is basically used to demonstrate the relations to stock and flow concepts.

It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to listen to our political class. I used to think this reactionary nonsense about the debt ceiling was due to ignorance. When our President says we're out of money, if his ignorance wasn't so serious in its implications with sequestration, budget cuts, and the "Grand Bargain", it would border on comical.
 
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We are fast approaching a point where the largest expenditure by the Government will be interest on the borrowed money, remind me again how that is a good thing?
 
Got a headache.

But the OP gets...

Effort - A

Style - D

I'd add an A for content. I understand your difficulty; I've made it through mind-numbing material in monetary theory and it's no fun. Most graduate students find monetary theory the most difficult of the core courses. Add to that the fact that much of the results of macro and monetary theory are counterintuitive, they offend "common sense" which "everybody" knows to be true. If I had a dollar for every time a post needed a reply explaining the "Paradox of Saving" I would be living in the penthouse of a casino!

But the problem is that it is necessary to understand macro in general and our current problems in particular. Hard as it is, the subject is analysis-rich and there is no clear substitute for it. This is the level of discourse the real debate among economists is conducted at.

Most posters (and I explicitly exclude you) will find it too hard and don't want to run the risk of discovering something that might contradict their political agenda (this is after all a political board!). A number of posters take on the frustrating task of trying to offer economic analysis that underlies the positions on current issues.

In short, I know it's rough going, but it's necessary and ultimately worth it. You might even consider a similar post of your own!
 
We are fast approaching a point where the largest expenditure by the Government will be interest on the borrowed money, remind me again how that is a good thing?

Who says it's a good thing, and if somebody does, in what context? Would you go into debt to save the USA like Americans have done before?[/QUOTE

Nice dodge, but we are in a Ponzi scheme with interest taking an ever larger share of the federal budget. What happens when we reach 100%?
 
We are fast approaching a point where the largest expenditure by the Government will be interest on the borrowed money, remind me again how that is a good thing?

The US government doesn't borrow its own fiat, nor do the bond markets control interest rates. They're controlled by the FED utilizing its authority to hit target interest rates. As opposed to issuing debt, which is no longer operationally necessary, the federal government could allow these financial assets to sit as reserves instead of securities and pay a rate of interest on reserves. We could eliminate public debt tomorrow if we wanted to, but the entire process has been hijacked by special interests and delusional reactionaries. Quite frankly, I was under the impression such a thing would be supported by conservatives. We could effectively get rid of "public debt" and this would help to educate the general public about monetary operations under a fiat system.
 
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We are fast approaching a point where the largest expenditure by the Government will be interest on the borrowed money, remind me again how that is a good thing?

Who says it's a good thing, and if somebody does, in what context? Would you go into debt to save the USA like Americans have done before?[/QUOTE

Nice dodge, but we are in a Ponzi scheme with interest taking an ever larger share of the federal budget. What happens when we reach 100%?

You know there are numbers for that. Too bad you never bother to look them up. I challenge your ability to read. Go to CBO, find the budget update projections, and tell us what percentage of GDP will go to net interest in ten years. I bet you lack the ability and integrity to do so.
 
Who says it's a good thing, and if somebody does, in what context? Would you go into debt to save the USA like Americans have done before?[/QUOTE

Nice dodge, but we are in a Ponzi scheme with interest taking an ever larger share of the federal budget. What happens when we reach 100%?

You know there are numbers for that. Too bad you never bother to look them up. I challenge your ability to read. Go to CBO, find the budget update projections, and tell us what percentage of GDP will go to net interest in ten years. I bet you lack the ability and integrity to do so.

Ya cause well the CBO did not just say we are in a unsustainable budget as we speak.
 
You know there are numbers for that. Too bad you never bother to look them up. I challenge your ability to read. Go to CBO, find the budget update projections, and tell us what percentage of GDP will go to net interest in ten years. I bet you lack the ability and integrity to do so.

Ya cause well the CBO did not just say we are in a unsustainable budget as we speak.
Aha. that was easy. Oldfart bet you lacked the integrity and ability to look up the numbers for 10 years from now. AND, he was CORRECT. Way too easy. You proved you have neither ability nor integrity. Simple, and no surprise at all.
 
Dollar decline

What are the reasons why the U.S. dollar is declining? Will it hurt or help the U.S. economy? Is it enough to cause a complete collapse of the dollar, as many are warning? Most importantly, what can you do do protect your financial well-being?
The dollar declines when it loses value in relationship to foreign currencies. When this happens, the dollar can buy fewer foreign goods, increasing the price for imports and causing inflation. In addition, investors in U.S. Treasury bonds will sell their dollar-denominated holdings.

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On our current path to prosperity, the dollar bill could be used for toilet paper at the end of the road.
 
Dollar decline

What are the reasons why the U.S. dollar is declining?

In 2009 one US dollar bought 0.69 Euros. Today it buys 0.74 Euros. Somebody is trying to sell you something by creating a false illusion of a falling dollar.

Will it hurt or help the U.S. economy? Is it enough to cause a complete collapse of the dollar, as many are warning? Most importantly, what can you do do protect your financial well-being?
The dollar declines when it loses value in relationship to foreign currencies. When this happens, the dollar can buy fewer foreign goods, increasing the price for imports and causing inflation. In addition, investors in U.S. Treasury bonds will sell their dollar-denominated holdings.

Balderdash and poppycock. The exchange rate variations are not large enough to cause significant changes in export and import balances. Besides, a falling dollar would reduce imports and encourage exports, adding to production and employment. Sounds good to me.
 
An incredibly long winded piece. It boils down to: 'We can always print more money, so it is OK to borrow more'.

Which is 'OK' in the sense that living in the Weimar Republic was kind of 'OK'.

Weimar Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I understand that most posters on a political board such as this are like you. They know nothing of economics and are proud of their ignorance. They regurgitate nonsensical pap fed them by ideologues. Probably they lack the capacity to understand monetary theory.
So they make cute remarks about those who try to explain things.

A few on this board have put in the effort to understand economics and have the cahones to put up with idiots like you who never participate in an economic discussion (throwing one-liners doesn't count) because you are too intellectually lazy to be bothered with thinking. But some folks are interested in learning. Cut them a break and shut up if you can't contribute to the discussion.

BTW, among other attributes, you are boorish. This thread was created to discuss monetary policy. You can always ignore threads, so why make an ass of yourself by interjecting your ignorance? If there is a topic you initiate, I will certainly avoid snide one-liners just out of common courtesy, no matter how bat shit crazy it is.
 

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