What distinguished the Great Depression

[Oldandtired]

Facts are not your opinion they are facts.

So present me a fact.

The chart shows a fact we all knew....the ND helped with unemployment. There is no arguing that.

Show me a fact that it is responsible for the recovery.

 

[Truthmatters]

You know TM...for years to come there will be two different opinons about what the ND did.
Why have you decided to say that all those that believe one way are idiots?
Is osmeone who doe not believe in climate change an idiot?
Is one that believes in conservative values an idiot?
Is one that believes in one economic theory and not antoher an idiot?
Does one that believes in God an idiot?

Why must someone with a different belief than you be an idiot?

Because you people take facts and pretend they are not facts.

These are economic facts and the New deal did help the economyu recover in a very dramatic fashion. Just because you have to deny it to continue to believe in failed ideas does not change the facts.

And I believe, along with 50% (made up % by you)of Americans that the ND created jobs that allowed the American People an opportunity to survive the economic failure wioth as little pain as possible....but in a free economy, there is very little that a government can do to cause a recovery...short of FORCING the people to buy things they dont necessrily need.It worked didnt it, the American people did buy things with the jobs that the ND created and then gained the benifit of the infrastructure that continued to create economic growth for decades to come).

You see, my belief is based on one economic theory and your belief is based aon another.
My is based on the facts I provided and not ANY theory, They clearly PROVE that the ND worked by the results that were easily observed in the economy of the time and the citizens response to the conditions.
You are not an idiot for believing yours.....and I am not an idiot for believing mine.

Your interpersonal skills needs some honing up there TM.

.As long as your team spews lies I will tell them to FUCK OFF

 

[Charles Stucker]

Frank you fool, I have been saying that the New deal worked and when FDR backed off of it in 1937 to balence the budget the recovery slumped. The next year he reinstated teh New deal. portions he backed off of. The economy then jumped again.

Take a hard look at your chart and realise that FDR was elected in 1933.

Remember 0 is good.

You have a very fucked up notion of the idea of "worked". After 8 fucking years of "working" we had 10% unemployment, like we do today.

That's the polar opposite of "worked"

Read it again you Idiot.

after years of FDR we were at about 3% unemployment.

The facts are there for all to see so quit lying.

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

 

[Truthmatters]

All of the historical facts and data points to the New Deal having a possitive effect on the US economy and nearly all the anticdotal evidence points to the US population being very pleased with the actions of FDR.

You idiots stand against all facts to claim otherwise for who knows what reason.

The Statists in the media and in academia LOVED FDR because he was a Progressive who vastly expanded Big Gubbamint at the expense of the private sector.

I grew up hearing about the greatness of FDR, then common sense prevailed

I guess that is why the people relected him 3 times huh?


Denying history is just one more symptom of your warped mind.

 

[Oldandtired]

Because you people take facts and pretend they are not facts.

These are economic facts and the New deal did help the economyu recover in a very dramatic fashion. Just because you have to deny it to continue to believe in failed ideas does not change the facts.

And I believe, along with 50% (made up % by you)of Americans that the ND created jobs that allowed the American People an opportunity to survive the economic failure wioth as little pain as possible....but in a free economy, there is very little that a government can do to cause a recovery...short of FORCING the people to buy things they dont necessrily need.It worked didnt it, the American people did buy things with the jobs that the ND created and then gained the benifit of the infrastructure that continued to create economic growth for decades to come).

You see, my belief is based on one economic theory and your belief is based aon another.
My is based on the facts I provided and not ANY theory, They clearly PROVE that the ND worked by the results that were easily observed in the economy of the time and the citizens response to the conditions.
You are not an idiot for believing yours.....and I am not an idiot for believing mine.

Your interpersonal skills needs some honing up there TM.

.As long as your team spews lies I will tell them to FUCK OFF

And that is you perogative.

Tell me how far that gets ya in life.

 

[Oldandtired]

All of the historical facts and data points to the New Deal having a possitive effect on the US economy and nearly all the anticdotal evidence points to the US population being very pleased with the actions of FDR.

You idiots stand against all facts to claim otherwise for who knows what reason.

The Statists in the media and in academia LOVED FDR because he was a Progressive who vastly expanded Big Gubbamint at the expense of the private sector.

I grew up hearing about the greatness of FDR, then common sense prevailed

I guess that is why the people relected him 3 times huh?


Denying history is just one more symptom of your warped mind.

Oh jeez...TM....you are truly showing how naive you are.

I asked you for a fact that shows that the ND was responsible for the recovery.

Please...back it up....show me tha facts that you say I ignore. Show me just one fact.

I dare you.

 

[Truthmatters]

You have a very fucked up notion of the idea of "worked". After 8 fucking years of "working" we had 10% unemployment, like we do today.

That's the polar opposite of "worked"

Read it again you Idiot.

after years of FDR we were at about 3% unemployment.

The facts are there for all to see so quit lying.

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions(IT WAS A DEPRESSION ) lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?


You see the unemployment was on a downward spiral during the years that ND was in place and when FDR backed off in 1937 the economy started to crash again UNTIL FDR reupp;ed his efforts and then BOOM back down.

 

[Truthmatters]

File:GDP depression.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Truthmatters]

Every SANE person accepts that the New Deal was intragal in the recovery of the US economy during the GD.

Only partisan assholes try to say it was not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Every SANE person accepts that the New Deal was intragal in the recovery of the US economy during the GD.

Only partisan assholes try to say it was not.

If you like an economic model that eclipsed the 7 Biblical Lean Years, then yeah, the New Deal was fo'shizzle.

 

[Oldandtired]

Read it again you Idiot.

after years of FDR we were at about 3% unemployment.

The facts are there for all to see so quit lying.

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions(IT WAS A DEPRESSION ) lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?


You see the unemployment was on a downward spiral during the years that ND was in place and when FDR backed off in 1937 the economy started to crash again UNTIL FDR reupp;ed his efforts and then BOOM back down.

I see your probelm TM...

You believe that creating government paid jobs directly correlates to recovery.

It doesn't. It only eases the pain until thr recovery takes place.

 

[Oldandtired]

TM?

You there TM?

Uh oh.....I think TM may have imploded.

Poor TM. So bitter. So angry. So wrapped up in being right. If only she realized that it is sometimes good to be wrong as it helps you gorw.

Poor TM.

Poor poor TM.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?

Cycle down, then cycle up.
The economy was recoveringDESPITE FDR's unconstitutional usurpation of power which inflicted socialist policies that endure today.
Oh BTW - the USA entered WWII in December 1941. Just so you know.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Read it again you Idiot.

after years of FDR we were at about 3% unemployment.

The facts are there for all to see so quit lying.

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions(IT WAS A DEPRESSION ) lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?


You see the unemployment was on a downward spiral during the years that ND was in place and when FDR backed off in 1937 the economy started to crash again UNTIL FDR reupp;ed his efforts and then BOOM back down.

 

[Truthmatters]

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions(IT WAS A DEPRESSION ) lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?


You see the unemployment was on a downward spiral during the years that ND was in place and when FDR backed off in 1937 the economy started to crash again UNTIL FDR reupp;ed his efforts and then BOOM back down.

I see your probelm TM...

You believe that creating government paid jobs directly correlates to recovery.

It doesn't. It only eases the pain until thr recovery takes place.

So the infrastructure that the country benifited from for decades after the GD mean nothing?

They are very much part of the economic picture even to today.

You are so emotionally invested in your failed thoeries that you deny the exsistance of the commerce that benifited from all these improvements right into todays economy.

 

[Truthmatters]

The fact which anyone can see is that other recessions(IT WAS A DEPRESSION ) lasted shorter periods than the one you indicate. In fact it SHOULD have ended by 1935, except for FDR. The depression, with high unemployment, kept going until WWII. Perhaps it escaped your attention when you got your GED from a crackerjack box, but going to war is a sure way to get unemployment down.
the TRUTH is that socialist programs do not help in any way that MATTERS

Please explain the years of the charts tragectory before the 1943 year?


You see the unemployment was on a downward spiral during the years that ND was in place and when FDR backed off in 1937 the economy started to crash again UNTIL FDR reupp;ed his efforts and then BOOM back down.

Dude, BEFORE late 1941 when we entered the war.

Cant you read?

 

[Truthmatters]

BTW you fools a war investment IS government money.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Every SANE person accepts that the New Deal was intragal in the recovery of the US economy during the GD.

Only partisan assholes try to say it was not.

Point 1 - The word is Integral, but the New deal was not.
Point 2 - The Democrats controlled congress from 1930. They blocked every attempt by Hoover to alleviate the depression in order to gain the presidency for their party. Only DNC hacks deny this truth.
Once FDR was in office his policies made the situation worse. This is easily seen in the length of the depression - far longer than a normal recession- and the indisputable fact that it endured until the US entered WWII.

If Obama does not screw up then this particular down cycle should end in the next few months. On the other hand he IS a socialist who would prefer people to be miserable, and blame the other party, if it gave the government greater control.

 

[Truthmatters]

Herbert Hoover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wrong wrong wrong wrong....wrong wrong wrong wrong

 

[Truthmatters]

The problem with your accertions CS is they are backed by NO facts.

The economy recovered under FDR and not weakened.

Its just not compliant with facts you fucking fool.