What Constitutional Rights Apply to an Unborn Fetus: Judicial Interpretation as opposed to Legal/JudicialPhilosophy

[80zephyr]

Science says that human life begins at conception.

 

[Blues Man]

Science says that human life begins at conception.

I never said it didn't.

I said the fetus has no rights of personhood.

Any human cell can be called human life not every human cell is a person. A fertilized human ovum is not a person.

 

[80zephyr]

I never said it didn't.

I said the fetus has no rights of personhood.

Any human cell can be called human life not every human cell is a person. A fertilized human ovum is not a person.

If a fertilized egg is the start of human life, how can it be anything other than a human life?

 

[Blues Man]

If a fertilized egg is the start of human life, how can it be anything other than a human life?

Where did I say it wasn't human life?

 

[80zephyr]

Where did I say it wasn't human life?

If it is a human life, it should be afforded every protection as everyone else. It seems self evident.

 

[HeyNorm]

If it is a human life, it should be afforded every protection as everyone else. It seems self evident.

Except if you have a slave holder mentality. Then they, the fetus and the slave are subhumans.

 

[BackAgain]

The OP’s tired old contention presumes that human life is only definable by birth.
Dainty Srillinacoma imagines that Constitutionally guaranteed rights only apply to “persons”and a zygote or a fetus or an embryo doesn’t meet some random definition of who or what a “person” is.

Buy the premise (which, of course, I don’t), buy the movie.

 

[Blues Man]

If it is a human life, it should be afforded every protection as everyone else. It seems self evident.

So you think a single cell should be endowed with all the rights of personhood?

The OP’s tired old contention presumes that human life is only definable by birth.
Dainty Srillinacoma imagines that Constitutionally guaranteed rights only apply to “persons”and a zygote or a fetus or an embryo doesn’t meet some random definition of who or what a “person” is.

Buy the premise (which, of course, I don’t), buy the movie.

Actually the OP is suggesting that at conception the fertilized human ovum should be granted all the rights of personhood

 

[80zephyr]

So you think a single cell should be endowed with all the rights of personhood?

Yes. Either it is a human life or its not. There is no gray area,

 

[Blues Man]

A single human cell is not a person

 

[80zephyr]

A single human cell is not a person

By definition, it is a human life.

 

[dblack]

By definition, it is a human life.

Whatever. The question is whether it's a person with Constitutionally protected rights. That's the difference between a fetus and person, between born and unborn.

 

[BackAgain]

So you think a single cell should be endowed with all the rights of personhood?

Actually the OP is suggesting that at conception the fertilized human ovum should be granted all the rights of personhood

I don’t think that’s what the author of the OP was suggesting at all.

 

[Blues Man]

By definition, it is a human life.

So what? It's not a person.

any cell from any human can be called human life that doesn't mean every human cell is a person

 

[80zephyr]

Whatever. The question is whether it's a person with Constitutionally protected rights. That's the difference between a fetus and person, between born and unborn.

How can it be a human life and not be protected?

 

[80zephyr]

So what? It's not a person.

any cell from any human can be called human life that doesn't mean every human cell is a person

Is every human cell a person? Of course not. But the zygote is.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

So what? It's not a person.

Welcome to the abortion debate, you have an opinion, good for you.

 

[Blues Man]

Welcome to the abortion debate, you have an opinion, good for you.

No single cell is a person.

 

[Blues Man]

Is every human cell a person? Of course not. But the zygote is.

No it's a potential person.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

No single cell is a person.

Achem.

Welcome to the abortion debate, you have an opinion, good for you.