What can republicans do for blacks?

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Why does he think Blacks can only listen to one group of people at a time?

Oh, he doesn't? Then what is the benefit to voting Republican?

All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

By the way, yes Democrats did disenfranchise blacks in the South. Mainly Conservative Democrats. Now the ideas of those Conservative Democrats are mainly found in the Republican party.

Point blank--Blacks rarely vote Conservative. Which party has the most conservatives? That is why Blacks do not vote for them.

Now if you bring back Moderates and Rockefeller Republicans, You will see an increase trend of Blacks voting Republican!!
 
Hello, I am Mr. Rhasta I am neutral in politics because I believe both sides are usually wrong. But that not the point, what I am trying to say is why do so many people say that the Republican party is racist? If you knew anything about American history you would know that it was formed to combat the slave owning democrats during the 1800s. People say that since the right wing wants to abolish affirmative action so they are racist because they do not want minorities to be successful. My response to anyone who claims that is why would you want to give minorities an advantage unless you think that they are not capable to get into ivy league school independently. If you do think that all humans are equal no matter the colour of their skin why would blacks be given an advantage? When affirmative action was first use during the civil right movement it was more useful because school would make it harder for African Americans to get into them. If a school did that today it would be all over the news and people would label it a hate crime, because it would be. I could go on and on and on about this topic but I have decided to clos my statement here, have a nice day . =)
 
All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)
If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.


Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!
 
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What can republicans do for blacks?
Free them from slavery.
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"...Ideology makes men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation." Deleuze / Guattari

You know you have succeeded when black is white and white is black. The man reminds one of the apologetics of victims of all sort. It is either I deserve this treatment or the treatment means something else. Human psychology is fascinating and bizarre.

"The White Man's Party"

"....Hardcore racism showed white supremacy in disquieting detail. In contrast, the new soft porn racism hid any direct references to race, even as it continued to trade on racial stimulation. As a contemporary of Wallace marveled, "he can use all the other issues - law and order, running your own schools, protecting property rights - and never mention race. But people will know he's telling them 'a ******'s trying to get your job, trying to move into your neighborhood.' What Wallace is doing is talking to them in a kind of shorthand, a kind of code.?"

Finally, a third bolt of lightening struck Wallace: he could be the one! The governor's mansion in Montgomery need not represent his final destination. He could ride the train of revamped race-baiting all the way to the White House. Wallace ran for president as a third- party candidate in 1964, and then again in 1968, 1972, and 1976. It's his 1968 campaign that most concerns us, for there Wallace ran against a consummate politician who was quick to appreciate, and adopt, Wallace's refashioned racial demagoguery: Richard Nixon. We'll turn to the Wallace-Nixon race soon, but first, another set of weathered bones must be excavated-the remains of Barry Goldwater.

• THE RISE OF RACIALLY IDENTIFIED PARTIES

The Republican Party today, in its voters and in its elected officials, is almost all white. But it wasn't always like that. Indeed, in the decades immediately before 1964, neither party was racially identified in the eyes of the American public. Even as the Democratic Party on the national level increasingly embraced civil rights, partly as a way to capture the growing political power of blacks who had migrated to Northern cities, Southern Democrats-like George Wallace remained staunch defenders of Jim Crow. Meanwhile, among Republicans, the racial antipathies of the rightwing found little favor among many party leaders." To take an important example, Brown and its desegregation imperative were backed by Republicans: Chief Justice Earl Warren, who wrote the opinion, was a Republican, and the first troops ordered into the South in 1957 to protect black students attempting to integrate a white school were sent there by the Republican administration of Dwight Eisenhower and his vice president, Richard Nixon. Reflecting the roughly equal commitment of both parties to racial progress, even as late as 1962, the public perceived Republicans and Democrats to be similarly committed to racial justice. In that year, when asked which party "is more likely to see that Negroes get fair treatment in jobs and housing:' 22.7 percent of the public said Democrats and 21.3 percent said Republicans, while over half could perceive no difference between the two.

"The 1964 presidential election marked the beginning of the realignment we live with today. Where in 1962 both parties were perceived as equally, if tepidly, supportive of civil rights, two years later 60 percent of the public identified Democrats as more likely to pursue fair treatment, versus only 7 percent who so identified the Republican Party." What happened?

Groundwork for the shift was laid in the run-up to the 1964 election by rightwing elements in the Republican Party, which gained momentum from the loss of the then-moderate Nixon to John F. Kennedy in 1960. This faction of the party had never stopped warring against the New Deal. Its standard bearer was Barry Goldwater, a senator from Arizona and heir to a department store fortune. His pampered upbringing and wealth notwithstanding,. Goldwater affected a cowboy's rough-and-tumble persona in his dress and speech, casting himself as a walking embodiment of the Marlboro Man's disdain for the nanny state. Goldwater and the reactionary stalwarts who rallied to him saw the Democratic Party as a mortal threat to the nation: domestically, because of the corrupting influence of a powerful central government deeply involved in regulating the marketplace and using taxes to reallocate wealth downward, and abroad in its willingness to compromise with communist countries instead of going to war against them. Goldwater himself though, was no racial throwback.' For instance, in 1957 and again in 1960 he voted in favor of federal civil rights legislation. By 1961, however, Goldwater and his partisans had become convinced that the key to electoral success lay in gaining ground in the South, and that in turn required appealing to racist sentiments in white voters, even at the cost of black support. As Goldwater drawled, "We're not going to get the Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 and 1968, so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are.?"

This racial plan riled more moderate members of the Republican establishment, such as New York senator Jacob Javits, who in the fall of 1963 may have been the first to refer to a "Southern Strategy" in the context of repudiating it." By then, however, the right wing of the party had won out. As the conservative journalist Robert Novak reported after attending a meeting of the Republican National Committee in Denver during the summer of 1963: "A good many, perhaps a majority of the party's leadership, envision substantial political gold to be mined in the racial crisis by becoming in fact, though not in name, the White Man's Party. 'Remember: one astute party worker said quietly ... 'this isn't South Africa. The white man outnumbers the Negro 9 to 1 in this country,"?" The rise of a racially-identified GOP is not a tale of latent bigotry in that party. It is instead a story centered on the strategic decision to use racism to become "the White Man's Party." p17-18 'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López, Oxford

The book is about today and how we got to today. But history and even reality eludes the right wing in America. Check it out learn a bit.
 
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This guy nails it!

Love me some ZoNation!


"Johnny Mneumonic" summed it up I think, when J-Bone (Ice T) and Johnny (Keanu Reeves) first meet and the bald headed guy's chasing Johnny getting the drop on him, seeing J-Bone but not Johnny he says like,

Baldy: "You weren't on the menu. I want you to do something for me."

J-Bone: "'Do?'"

Baldy: "Yes. Say bye!"

Then Johnny shows up saving J-Bone, then another badguy shows up and J-Bones saves Johnny in return.

But if you think of Baldy as the GOP, it sums them up via blacks quite well. :)
 
All I heard is "Stop listening to the Democrats" and a strange argument as to why Republicans don't tell Blacks what they can do(Because Blacks say they can't do anything? That is called a challenge by a group, not a command!)
If that's all you heard, you either weren't listening or you're cherry picking.


Like liberal programming in public schools? The voucher system to escape it? The best private schools ask for more than what is in those vouchers, also, and this is the truth, the best private schools endorse religion.

So your kids are getting programmed either way. Either they become liberal, or they become a cultist.

I prefer my kids to being programmed liberal, at least I know they have a very good chance to grow out of it!!


Giving away free education obviously destroys the market for cheaper private education.

Vouchers, if not sabotaged, should grow that market. In the short term is would put private schools in the reach of more middle class families.

The vast majority of the population identifies as Christian. THe vast majority of the market would not see that as a problem.
 
"...Ideology makes men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation." Deleuze / Guattari

You know you have succeeded when black is white and white is black. The man reminds one of the apologetics of victims of all sort. It is either I deserve this treatment or the treatment means something else. Human psychology is fascinating and bizarre.

"The White Man's Party"

"....Hardcore racism showed white supremacy in disquieting detail. In contrast, the new soft porn racism hid any direct references to race, even as it continued to trade on racial stimulation. As a contemporary of Wallace marveled, "he can use all the other issues - law and order, running your own schools, protecting property rights - and never mention race. But people will know he's telling them 'a ******'s trying to get your job, trying to move into your neighborhood.' What Wallace is doing is talking to them in a kind of shorthand, a kind of code.?"

Finally, a third bolt of lightening struck Wallace: he could be the one! The governor's mansion in Montgomery need not represent his final destination. He could ride the train of revamped race-baiting all the way to the White House. Wallace ran for president as a third- party candidate in 1964, and then again in 1968, 1972, and 1976. It's his 1968 campaign that most concerns us, for there Wallace ran against a consummate politician who was quick to appreciate, and adopt, Wallace's refashioned racial demagoguery: Richard Nixon. We'll turn to the Wallace-Nixon race soon, but first, another set of weathered bones must be excavated-the remains of Barry Goldwater.

• THE RISE OF RACIALLY IDENTIFIED PARTIES

The Republican Party today, in its voters and in its elected officials, is almost all white. But it wasn't always like that. Indeed, in the decades immediately before 1964, neither party was racially identified in the eyes of the American public. Even as the Democratic Party on the national level increasingly embraced civil rights, partly as a way to capture the growing political power of blacks who had migrated to Northern cities, Southern Democrats-like George Wallace remained staunch defenders of Jim Crow. Meanwhile, among Republicans, the racial antipathies of the rightwing found little favor among many party leaders." To take an important example, Brown and its desegregation imperative were backed by Republicans: Chief Justice Earl Warren, who wrote the opinion, was a Republican, and the first troops ordered into the South in 1957 to protect black students attempting to integrate a white school were sent there by the Republican administration of Dwight Eisenhower and his vice president, Richard Nixon. Reflecting the roughly equal commitment of both parties to racial progress, even as late as 1962, the public perceived Republicans and Democrats to be similarly committed to racial justice. In that year, when asked which party "is more likely to see that Negroes get fair treatment in jobs and housing:' 22.7 percent of the public said Democrats and 21.3 percent said Republicans, while over half could perceive no difference between the two.

"The 1964 presidential election marked the beginning of the realignment we live with today. Where in 1962 both parties were perceived as equally, if tepidly, supportive of civil rights, two years later 60 percent of the public identified Democrats as more likely to pursue fair treatment, versus only 7 percent who so identified the Republican Party." What happened?

Groundwork for the shift was laid in the run-up to the 1964 election by rightwing elements in the Republican Party, which gained momentum from the loss of the then-moderate Nixon to John F. Kennedy in 1960. This faction of the party had never stopped warring against the New Deal. Its standard bearer was Barry Goldwater, a senator from Arizona and heir to a department store fortune. His pampered upbringing and wealth notwithstanding,. Goldwater affected a cowboy's rough-and-tumble persona in his dress and speech, casting himself as a walking embodiment of the Marlboro Man's disdain for the nanny state. Goldwater and the reactionary stalwarts who rallied to him saw the Democratic Party as a mortal threat to the nation: domestically, because of the corrupting influence of a powerful central government deeply involved in regulating the marketplace and using taxes to reallocate wealth downward, and abroad in its willingness to compromise with communist countries instead of going to war against them. Goldwater himself though, was no racial throwback.' For instance, in 1957 and again in 1960 he voted in favor of federal civil rights legislation. By 1961, however, Goldwater and his partisans had become convinced that the key to electoral success lay in gaining ground in the South, and that in turn required appealing to racist sentiments in white voters, even at the cost of black support. As Goldwater drawled, "We're not going to get the Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 and 1968, so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are.?"

This racial plan riled more moderate members of the Republican establishment, such as New York senator Jacob Javits, who in the fall of 1963 may have been the first to refer to a "Southern Strategy" in the context of repudiating it." By then, however, the right wing of the party had won out. As the conservative journalist Robert Novak reported after attending a meeting of the Republican National Committee in Denver during the summer of 1963: "A good many, perhaps a majority of the party's leadership, envision substantial political gold to be mined in the racial crisis by becoming in fact, though not in name, the White Man's Party. 'Remember: one astute party worker said quietly ... 'this isn't South Africa. The white man outnumbers the Negro 9 to 1 in this country,"?" The rise of a racially-identified GOP is not a tale of latent bigotry in that party. It is instead a story centered on the strategic decision to use racism to become "the White Man's Party." p17-18 'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López, Oxford

The book is about today and how we got to today. But history and even reality eludes the right wing in America. Check it out learn a bit.


Funny how the "WHite Man's" party only gets about 60% of the white vote.

Meanwhile the Dems get 95% of the Black VOte, and 70% of the Hispanic vote.
 

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