What America Needs is Zero Based Budgeting

[kyzr]

You're ignoring the pork. If the DOE wasn't there, States like Texas would stop teaching anything but completely varnished views of history for example. Literature would be added to "what do you need to learn that for"?
Better to increase revenues by getting rid of the caps on SS and the federal sales tax you mentioned.

TX teaches what it wants now, so does FL.
But you are correct that Federal money has "strings".
Columbus Day is now "Indigenous People Day"??????

But your point is a good one. Cutting spending is not a cure, more revenue is.

 

[candycorn]

TX teaches what it wants now, so does FL.

From the standpoint of competitiveness it will be an issue going forward if you let backwards red states raise legions of idiots and call them "educated" because they can re-tread tires.

But you are correct that Federal money has "strings".
Columbus Day is now "Indigenous People Day"??????

Tragic. Can't imagine the horror.

But your point is a good one. Cutting spending is not a cure, more revenue is.

Thanks.

 

[kyzr]

From the standpoint of competitiveness it will be an issue going forward if you let backwards red states raise legions of idiots and call them "educated" because they can re-tread tires.

Backwards red states?
People are moving from those lawless, decadent blue states to those prosperous red states.
Red states focus on STEM courses, not the historically incorrect "1619 Project" or the bullshit CRT stuff.
Red states are also kicking ass when it comes to SAT scores

SAT Scores by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[candycorn]

Backwards red states?

Yep. The only 2 that matter (FL and TX) do so because of globalization--the thing conservatives fear most.

People are moving from those lawless, decadent blue states to those prosperous red states.

Its cheaper to live in Red States since they don't spend much on government stuff like roads, inspectors, public defenders, etc...

Red states focus on STEM courses, not the historically incorrect "1619 Project" or the bullshit CRT stuff.

Thanks for the chuckle. You're in rare form tonight.

Red states are also kicking ass when it comes to SAT scores

SAT Scores by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

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Very few students taking the SATs will tend to increase the scores since they were super motivated in trying to escape the backwards Red States.

 

[kyzr]

Yep. The only 2 that matter (FL and TX) do so because of globalization--the thing conservatives fear most.
Its cheaper to live in Red States since they don't spend much on government stuff like roads, inspectors, public defenders, etc...
Thanks for the chuckle. You're in rare form tonight.
Very few students taking the SATs will tend to increase the scores since they were super motivated in trying to escape the backwards Red States.

1. Populists believe that globalization is bad, America First is good.
2. Its safer to live in red states since they respect the tough job police do, and DAs keep violent criminals in prison where they belong
3. STEM is good, CRT and 1619 are bad. Correct.
4. True, fewer students take SATs in red states. College isn't for everyone. Good jobs happen with job training too. We don't need unemployed "Art - History" majors.

 

[candycorn]

1. Populists believe that globalization is bad, America First is good.

Populists are wrong and presenting a false choice in that case.

2. Its safer to live in red states since they respect the tough job police do, and DAs keep violent criminals in prison where they belong

LOL...somehow Texas is among the leaders in mass shootings and incarcerating folks.

3. STEM is good, CRT and 1619 are bad. Correct.

Most kids in red states have zero idea what the acronym stands for.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A lot of great ideas in this thread. I look forward to all these folks putting them out there joining me in voting for a 3rd party that might actually do these things as we know the Dems and Repubs will not

 

[Mac-7]

Return to the Eisenhower tax rates as well.

You can donate 90% of your earnings to the Welfare State any time you feel like it

 

[Mac-7]

A lot of great ideas in this thread. I look forward to all these folks putting them out there joining me in voting for a 3rd party that might actually do these things as we know the Dems and Repubs will not

Third parties are for perpetual losers

You enjoy being on the outside and out of power so that you never have to take responsibility when things go wrong.

 

[Jarlaxle]

LOL...somehow Texas is among the leaders in mass shootings and incarcerating folks.

Gee...I wonder if, maybe, the huge fucking border with Mexico and the flood of ILLEGAL ALIENS might play a part in that problem, you fucking mental midget!

 

[kyzr]

Populists are wrong and presenting a false choice in that case.
LOL...somehow Texas is among the leaders in mass shootings and incarcerating folks.
Most kids in red states have zero idea what the acronym stands for.

1. Populists are correct, socialists are wrong
2. TX is in the middle of violent crimes, the progressive District of Columbia is the worst by far.

List of U.S. states and territories by violent crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3. Kids in red states score higher in SATs

 

[candycorn]

1. Populists are correct, socialists are wrong

Again, a false choice.

2. TX is in the middle of violent crimes, the progressive District of Columbia is the worst by far.

so many mass shootings in Texas; all of the guns in the world are not preventing them.

List of U.S. states and territories by violent crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

3. Kids in red states score higher in SATs

We’ve been over this already; fewer kids in the hopeless pathetic red states take the SATs.

 

[candycorn]

Gee...I wonder if, maybe, the huge fucking border with Mexico and the flood of ILLEGAL ALIENS might play a part in that problem, you fucking mental midget!

Statistics say they aren’t.

When illegals are convicted for crimes, they get deported; not incarcerated (if they are not deported first). As for the mass shooting epidemic in Texas, the illegals aren’t doing that either.

If the illegals are doing anything, they are making the right wing bat-shit crazy loons even more bat-shit crazy.

 

[Foxfyre]

Every year we go thru the clown show of budgeting. Every year departments ask for more money than they had last year.

The Department of Botanic Gardening (how could America survive without it) will ask for $30M more than they were budgeted last year. The swamp creatures will approve a $15M increase.

The swamp creatures and the related media will report to the American people how the Department of Botanical Gardening took a $15M CUT this year.


Time to have zero based budgets. Each fiscal year your budget is $0. Now it’s up to each department to justify in writing every dollar they want for the next budget.

Only then will spending be put under control.

I couldn't agree more. There should be medals or trophies or some kind of reward for those government departments who manage to get the job done and come in under budget--high praise for finding ways to be economical and save the government money.

And yes the the budget should be based on whatever the program and agenda is for any given year and not just an increase of the previous year's budget.

AND. . .there should be absolutely no pork or any expenditure in a department allocation bill other than what is needed to run that department. Any other expenditures should be stand alone bills with members required to cast on the record votes and they shouldn't be able to change their vote once the vote is finalized.

I think if that was the law the government could run on half what it spends on administration and there would be a whole lot less pork.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Statistics say they aren’t.

When illegals are convicted for crimes, they get deported; not incarcerated (if they are not deported first). As for the mass shooting epidemic in Texas, the illegals aren’t doing that either.

If the illegals are doing anything, they are making the right wing bat-shit crazy loons even more bat-shit crazy.

You're not this fucking stupid. It's physically impossible.