What a real President says about events like the New Zealand shooting

[Norman]

While it is of course always smart to point out the problems with dieversity... how relevant is this shooting? Not very... we killed hundreds of Muslims a day in their own countries, and now it's news that 40 die in foreign countries to them and us?

We kill hundreds of muslims a day around the world? Care to support that claim with evidence? Or are you lying?

In Iraq alone the casualties are over 500,000.

 

[Papageorgio]

The 2008 recession was a combination of many decisions made and only fools would blame one person for the debacle. Who did we bomb under Clinton? Sorry, I don’t buy your BS. I never said I was in the middle.

Who was President? Who ran Congress? Who voted for massive unfunded tax cuts. Who voted for a massive unfunded expansion to Medicare. Who decided to blend financial institutions with mortgage lending? Who was guarding the chickencoop when financial institutions were bundling failed mortgages in the mortgage backed securities, buying AAA ratings & selling them to unsuspecting investors? Who???? I guess no one. No one was responsible.

If you don’t learn the lessons, we are doomed to repeat them. So much blame to go around from 2008, not just one party, not just one person but a list. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuc...kerman-who-to-blame-for-the-financial-crisis-

Then you throw in this tidbit how Clinton, Rubin, Levitt, summers, Graham, Greenspan, Lugar, and Ewing all helped pass a bill in late 2000 sealed the fate of our country by not allowing tight regulation of derivatives. Clinton signed the bill and that helped seal our fate.

How Congress Rushed a Bill that Helped Bring the Economy to Its Knees | HuffPost

The 2008 Meltdown And Where The Blame Falls

Many experts and many articles laid blame at the feet of many. Of course partisan nuts aren’t bright enough to figure the blame, they just spew whatever they are told to believe, the truth be damned, you are really good at overlooking facts and ignoring facts while you blame the other guy.

OK, primarily Republicans. Did that make you happy?

Republicans, the party of deregulation because we all know we can trust corporations to do what is right.

Actually, you are wrong, it was a good combination both, also in 2008 we learned we should not have trusted the government either because they helped create the recession.

Republican Congress for nearly 14 straight years, Republican President for 7 years.

But the Democrats were of equal blame????? Really?

I can see you read nothing and sticking to ignorance of facts. Doesn't bother me, it is tough to educate you stupid partisan morons. Keep your blinders on!

 

[RealDave]

Who was President? Who ran Congress? Who voted for massive unfunded tax cuts. Who voted for a massive unfunded expansion to Medicare. Who decided to blend financial institutions with mortgage lending? Who was guarding the chickencoop when financial institutions were bundling failed mortgages in the mortgage backed securities, buying AAA ratings & selling them to unsuspecting investors? Who???? I guess no one. No one was responsible.

If you don’t learn the lessons, we are doomed to repeat them. So much blame to go around from 2008, not just one party, not just one person but a list. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuc...kerman-who-to-blame-for-the-financial-crisis-

Then you throw in this tidbit how Clinton, Rubin, Levitt, summers, Graham, Greenspan, Lugar, and Ewing all helped pass a bill in late 2000 sealed the fate of our country by not allowing tight regulation of derivatives. Clinton signed the bill and that helped seal our fate.

How Congress Rushed a Bill that Helped Bring the Economy to Its Knees | HuffPost

The 2008 Meltdown And Where The Blame Falls

Many experts and many articles laid blame at the feet of many. Of course partisan nuts aren’t bright enough to figure the blame, they just spew whatever they are told to believe, the truth be damned, you are really good at overlooking facts and ignoring facts while you blame the other guy.

OK, primarily Republicans. Did that make you happy?

Republicans, the party of deregulation because we all know we can trust corporations to do what is right.

Actually, you are wrong, it was a good combination both, also in 2008 we learned we should not have trusted the government either because they helped create the recession.

Republican Congress for nearly 14 straight years, Republican President for 7 years.

But the Democrats were of equal blame????? Really?

I can see you read nothing and sticking to ignorance of facts. Doesn't bother me, it is tough to educate you stupid partisan morons. Keep your blinders on!

I read, it talked about REPUBLICANS writing bills.

 

[Papageorgio]

If you don’t learn the lessons, we are doomed to repeat them. So much blame to go around from 2008, not just one party, not just one person but a list. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuc...kerman-who-to-blame-for-the-financial-crisis-

Then you throw in this tidbit how Clinton, Rubin, Levitt, summers, Graham, Greenspan, Lugar, and Ewing all helped pass a bill in late 2000 sealed the fate of our country by not allowing tight regulation of derivatives. Clinton signed the bill and that helped seal our fate.

How Congress Rushed a Bill that Helped Bring the Economy to Its Knees | HuffPost

The 2008 Meltdown And Where The Blame Falls

Many experts and many articles laid blame at the feet of many. Of course partisan nuts aren’t bright enough to figure the blame, they just spew whatever they are told to believe, the truth be damned, you are really good at overlooking facts and ignoring facts while you blame the other guy.

OK, primarily Republicans. Did that make you happy?

Republicans, the party of deregulation because we all know we can trust corporations to do what is right.

Actually, you are wrong, it was a good combination both, also in 2008 we learned we should not have trusted the government either because they helped create the recession.

Republican Congress for nearly 14 straight years, Republican President for 7 years.

But the Democrats were of equal blame????? Really?

I can see you read nothing and sticking to ignorance of facts. Doesn't bother me, it is tough to educate you stupid partisan morons. Keep your blinders on!

I read, it talked about REPUBLICANS writing bills.

LOL! Take care goofball.

 

[DJT for Life]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

Of course Clinton said that. He was just stopping the coming rhetoric of discovering that Oklahoma City was a retaliation
for his Atty General ordering the slaughter of women and children at Waco.

Atty General ordered no such thing.

Yes she did.

Waco Massacre: Janet Reno’s Truth

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

 

[Avatar4321]

You're a tard.

At

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

I guess nothing should be said or done when these events happens. I guess we shoulds all just STFU & accept it.

Right jackass.

Mocking people who look to God after a tragedy is a really good and productive thing.

When those that look to God are just pretend Christians?

Ah, another internet atheist proclaiming who is a *real* Christian!

You freaks are hilarious.

Not difficult at all. A real Christian lives the live. They don't support pieces of shit like Donald Trump & bigots like Mike Pence.

You don't understand Christianity do you?

 

[Avatar4321]

Mocking people who look to God after a tragedy is a really good and productive thing.

When those that look to God are just pretend Christians?

Ah, another internet atheist proclaiming who is a *real* Christian!

You freaks are hilarious.

Not difficult at all. A real Christian lives the live. They don't support pieces of shit like Donald Trump & bigots like Mike Pence.

You mean a real Christian voted for Hillary? You realize, of course, that every rational person is in this forum is laughing at you now.

So, what unchristian thing did Hillary do?

Did she cheat on herb husband?

Did she cheat people?

Was she accused of abusing over 20 men?

are you smoking something?

I don't think we can list them all.

how about we start with her destroying the lives of women her husband assaulted? All for political power.

 

[Avatar4321]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

There is only one real president no matter what CNN says. Your President and mine.. President Donald J Trump.

Let me know when he acts like one.

you missed then press conference today didn't you?

 

[RealDave]

When those that look to God are just pretend Christians?

Ah, another internet atheist proclaiming who is a *real* Christian!

You freaks are hilarious.

Not difficult at all. A real Christian lives the live. They don't support pieces of shit like Donald Trump & bigots like Mike Pence.

You mean a real Christian voted for Hillary? You realize, of course, that every rational person is in this forum is laughing at you now.

So, what unchristian thing did Hillary do?

Did she cheat on herb husband?

Did she cheat people?

Was she accused of abusing over 20 men?

are you smoking something?

I don't think we can list them all.

how about we start with her destroying the lives of women her husband assaulted? All for political power.

She defended her husband when the accusation first came out. Like most wives would do.

 

[RealDave]

At
I guess nothing should be said or done when these events happens. I guess we shoulds all just STFU & accept it.

Right jackass.

Mocking people who look to God after a tragedy is a really good and productive thing.

When those that look to God are just pretend Christians?

Ah, another internet atheist proclaiming who is a *real* Christian!

You freaks are hilarious.

Not difficult at all. A real Christian lives the live. They don't support pieces of shit like Donald Trump & bigots like Mike Pence.

You don't understand Christianity do you?

Eviderntly, better than you.

Real Christians are not bigots or racists. Real Christians don't condone stealing children.

 

[RealDave]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

Of course Clinton said that. He was just stopping the coming rhetoric of discovering that Oklahoma City was a retaliation
for his Atty General ordering the slaughter of women and children at Waco.

Atty General ordered no such thing.

Yes she did.

Waco Massacre: Janet Reno’s Truth

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

So, you think law enforcement should do nothing when murderers are holed up in a building or compound. Should be fire all SWAT teams?

Bad things can happen in these situations. People like you lying about them helps fuel people like McVey.

 

[xyz]

Anyone notice how vicious the white supremacist trolls have gotten lately?

'Vicious White Supremacist Troll': NOUN: Any white conservative (especially a Trump-Supporter) that dares talk back to a radical socialist-leftist.

Radical socialist-leftist: anyone opposed to a white supremacist troll, regardless of political leanings.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

What dumbass would start out bringing up the US after a massacre in New Zealand?

That is as dumb as blaming President Trump and the NRA for the massacre.

Dumbass snowflakes run ... Not walk....to blame Trump for anything and everything....

The shooter himself claimed tRump was responsible.

No, I don't believe the shooter stated he did it because of the Orange Virus. I despise this pResident, but let's not be careless about wording.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

There is only one real president no matter what CNN says. Your President and mine.. President Donald J Trump.

Nope. He's pResident of around 40% of the country. The DeplorableNation.

 

[xyz]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

What dumbass would start out bringing up the US after a massacre in New Zealand?

That is as dumb as blaming President Trump and the NRA for the massacre.

Dumbass snowflakes run ... Not walk....to blame Trump for anything and everything....

The shooter himself claimed tRump was responsible.

No, I don't believe the shooter stated he did it because of the Orange Virus. I despise this pResident, but let's not be careless about wording.

No, but he said Trump helped restore white pride, something like that. He shared a similar ideology, in other words.

I'm not sure if it makes much of a difference. Most radicalized Islamists do not commit terrorist acts. Most radicalized white supremacists do not commit terrorist acts. Does that make either ideology acceptable?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

""We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that, by their very words, that violence is acceptable." He continued: "When they talk of violence, we must stand against them. When they say things that are irresponsible, that may have egregious consequences, we must call them on it."

What a president should say after a hate-driven massacre (opinion) - CNN

Bill Clinton after the McVey bombing.

When we read this, we know exactly why Trump could not say it. For Clinton was talking about people like Donald J Trump.

Trump whose statement quickly went to collusion & how poor poor Donnie suffers so much.

I miss real Presidents.

What dumbass would start out bringing up the US after a massacre in New Zealand?

That is as dumb as blaming President Trump and the NRA for the massacre.

Dumbass snowflakes run ... Not walk....to blame Trump for anything and everything....

The shooter himself claimed tRump was responsible.

No, I don't believe the shooter stated he did it because of the Orange Virus. I despise this pResident, but let's not be careless about wording.

No, but he said Trump helped restore white pride, something like that. He shared a similar ideology, in other words.

I'm not sure if it makes much of a difference. Most radicalized Islamists do not commit terrorist acts. Most radicalized white supremacists do not commit terrorist acts. Does that make either ideology acceptable?

Of course not. But blaming the Orange Virus as the only motivation is sloppy. Look, Orange is a gigantic, gaping asshole that can be directly blamed for a plethora of other bad shit. I just wouldn't be too hasty in pinning all this blame on him for this particular tragedy.

 

[DJT for Life]

Of course Clinton said that. He was just stopping the coming rhetoric of discovering that Oklahoma City was a retaliation
for his Atty General ordering the slaughter of women and children at Waco.

Atty General ordered no such thing.

Yes she did.

Waco Massacre: Janet Reno’s Truth

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

So, you think law enforcement should do nothing when murderers are holed up in a building or compound. Should be fire all SWAT teams?

Bad things can happen in these situations. People like you lying about them helps fuel people like McVey.

Huh?

People like you and Former Pres Zero have placed the lives of Americans in Danger for nearly two decades by complaining about
Muslim civilian deaths, handicapping our troops in battles with terrorists in cities and towns throughout the Middle East.

In WWII we just bombed the cities into rumble to protect American lives.

They come across our border in the thousands, daily and no one cares about Americans. You folks chant constantly about
Police brutality. Now you praise it. That's the problem with being a democrat...you have to alter your story, daily.

 

[RealDave]

Atty General ordered no such thing.

Yes she did.

Waco Massacre: Janet Reno’s Truth

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

So, you think law enforcement should do nothing when murderers are holed up in a building or compound. Should be fire all SWAT teams?

Bad things can happen in these situations. People like you lying about them helps fuel people like McVey.

Huh?

People like you and Former Pres Zero have placed the lives of Americans in Danger for nearly two decades by complaining about
Muslim civilian deaths, handicapping our troops in battles with terrorists in cities and towns throughout the Middle East.

In WWII we just bombed the cities into rumble to protect American lives.

They come across our border in the thousands, daily and no one cares about Americans. You folks chant constantly about
Police brutality. Now you praise it. That's the problem with being a democrat...you have to alter your story, daily.

So Muslim civilians are crap. Your bigotry & ignorance is noted.

No one is for police brutality except you against minorities. How am I praising police brutality?

 

[DJT for Life]

Yes she did.

Waco Massacre: Janet Reno’s Truth

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

So, you think law enforcement should do nothing when murderers are holed up in a building or compound. Should be fire all SWAT teams?

Bad things can happen in these situations. People like you lying about them helps fuel people like McVey.

Huh?

People like you and Former Pres Zero have placed the lives of Americans in Danger for nearly two decades by complaining about
Muslim civilian deaths, handicapping our troops in battles with terrorists in cities and towns throughout the Middle East.

In WWII we just bombed the cities into rumble to protect American lives.

They come across our border in the thousands, daily and no one cares about Americans. You folks chant constantly about
Police brutality. Now you praise it. That's the problem with being a democrat...you have to alter your story, daily.

So Muslim civilians are crap. Your bigotry & ignorance is noted.

No one is for police brutality except you against minorities. How am I praising police brutality?

You don't have a problem with American women and children being burned alive. I just added that conclusion in my head.

 

[RealDave]

Reno did not order a fire be started. She ordered no one killed.

There are questions on how the fires did start ranging from Tear gas to Koresh starting them.

She ordered them to take the compound. People had already been killed there. None of those people still in
the compound were going to go quietly. Everybody knew there were children in there, and everybody knew
the adults were going to fight. When she authorized the use of armored vehicles to seize the property what did
she think was going to happen?

Now, Waco had already become a National Embarrassment because the Government had failed in its initial attempt
to seize the property and lost 4 ATF agents. They should have kept the compound under siege and waited those
people out. Just cut off all of their supplies. Reno and Clinton were looking for body count and they got one.

The problem is, that dissidents got the body count back at Oklahoma City.

So, you think law enforcement should do nothing when murderers are holed up in a building or compound. Should be fire all SWAT teams?

Bad things can happen in these situations. People like you lying about them helps fuel people like McVey.

Huh?

People like you and Former Pres Zero have placed the lives of Americans in Danger for nearly two decades by complaining about
Muslim civilian deaths, handicapping our troops in battles with terrorists in cities and towns throughout the Middle East.

In WWII we just bombed the cities into rumble to protect American lives.

They come across our border in the thousands, daily and no one cares about Americans. You folks chant constantly about
Police brutality. Now you praise it. That's the problem with being a democrat...you have to alter your story, daily.

So Muslim civilians are crap. Your bigotry & ignorance is noted.

No one is for police brutality except you against minorities. How am I praising police brutality?

You don't have a problem with American women and children being burned alive. I just added that conclusion in my head.

What children are being burned alive?