Welfare 3500/Month ??? Is that even possible ?

[Seawytch]

Why is it, in all these "Welfare Queen" stories, that nobody ever turns the fuckers in? So much better to just bitch about it on a message board and then call for abolishing safety nets.

As it is just talking about it brands you a racist.
How can you turn someone in who is not braking any law it seems.
The Democrat machine encourages this sort of behavior.
The only people against it are the ones who struggle everyday
to keep a few bucks in their pocket.

She is breaking the law. Had you read the OP's "story", you would know that the woman claimed she wasn't disabled.

 

[Rozman]

Those that need it deserve it.
The problem is there are plenty that found a way to game the system.
They are the ones I have a problem with.

 

[JoeB131]

Those that need it deserve it.
The problem is there are plenty that found a way to game the system.
They are the ones I have a problem with.

As do I. I'd have no problem with scrutinizing claims a lot more thoroughly, but are you willing to put on more caseworkers to the payroll to investigate?

The real problem, I think, is that in the rush for more profits and bigger CEO salaries, the squeeze has been put on workers to the point where government benefits look more lucrative than actually working for a living.

 

[zeke]

Those that need it deserve it.
The problem is there are plenty that found a way to game the system.
They are the ones I have a problem with.

To fuking bad you are so ignorant that you won't address the issue of reigning in the doctors and lawyers that work the SSDI system.

Why is that. I assure you poor people don't just walk in, say I am disabled and start recieving a check.

Stop the attorneys and doctors from gaming the system.

But no, that just doesn't work out for your rant against poor people. Does it?

 

[squeeze berry]

I also find it funny Republicans want to wipe out Social security and say that is an entitlement well dam straight it is my parents paid into it and now they are getting what they have soued. The right truly does need to get its priorities straight.

can you link to how many "republicans" want to wipe out social security?

I'm a R and don't want that. Realistically the horse left the barn on that issue decades ago.

 

[Seawytch]

Those that need it deserve it.
The problem is there are plenty that found a way to game the system.
They are the ones I have a problem with.

Yes, they are a problem, but the answer is not to gut the programs.

 

[Papageorgio]

True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like your disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

*********************

Were they sour they lost the deal or is it possible someone could get this much money (say...if they were disabled) ?

$3500/month....untaxed (not sure if that is the case) equates to about $4500/$5000/mo.

Wow.....

BTW: This was on a local Ford dealers Facebook page (or so the e-mail I got states).

I still find it all a bit tough to believe.

So its socialism to help the poor out and help them out be able to feed themselves and have a roof over there head until they get back onto there feet? Tell me the right hasn't gotten this desperate.

While i understand the feet and that people do abuse it, its there to help folks get back onto there feet.

She made $330 a week, paid taxes. She now makes $3,500 a month tax free. She doesn't work, she doesn't need to.

I agree with helping people get on their feet, but this a waste of government money. She should be made to go to school or train to become productive.

 

[healthmyths]

True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like your disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

*********************

Were they sour they lost the deal or is it possible someone could get this much money (say...if they were disabled) ?

$3500/month....untaxed (not sure if that is the case) equates to about $4500/$5000/mo.

Wow.....

BTW: This was on a local Ford dealers Facebook page (or so the e-mail I got states).

I still find it all a bit tough to believe.

47 million people getting free food -SNAP program
8 million people able to talk on cell phone to anyone anywhere FREE!
47 million NOT paying ANY taxes
21 million household receiving $36 billion in "Free MONEY"!
Almost all the "wealthy poor" having at least
Free TV/Radio and Free entertainment
Free Access via the Internet to send pictures/etc. to anyone in the world!
All FREE to the "wealthy American Poor"!

 

[Papageorgio]

I also find it funny Republicans want to wipe out Social security and say that is an entitlement well dam straight it is my parents paid into it and now they are getting what they have soued. The right truly does need to get its priorities straight.

I also find it funny how you seem to generalize and are dead wrong.

 

[Claudette]

Of course he's dead wrong.

SS is a system that never ever should have come to pass but it did and we are now stuck with it. To bad some folks don't want to do what it takes to make it something that will be here for the future. Band aids and kicking it down the road isn't going to solve its problems.

Its just to bad that LBJ put SS in the General Fund where the assholes in Congress have been looting it ever since. Loads of IOU's.

As for SSI? There are loads of folks like this chick making $3500 a month. Hell. Glad she doesn't have to worry about paying her bills like the rest of us.

She better hope and pray that her free ride doesn't come to an end which could happen once we hit 50 or 51% of the population that doesn't pay and Fed taxes. The house will come tumbling down then.

Once the public learns it can draw from the public largess the republic is doomed.

 

[healthmyths]

So its socialism to help the poor out and help them out be able to feed themselves and have a roof over there head until they get back onto there feet? Tell me the right hasn't gotten this desperate.

While i understand the feet and that people do abuse it, its there to help folks get back onto there feet.

Uh...you missed the point.

She COULD work.

Why should she....it's a huge pay cut.

IF this is true. This person went through several doctors needed to convince the SSDI board that they really are disabled. And this person didn't do it on their own. They hired an attorney. Who made good money for the work.

Why don't you Rethugs make the doctors quit saying that a person is disabled? Why don't you rethugs make the attorneys quit working the SSDI system?

Get rid of the doctors saying they are disabled and the attorneys representing the case and viola, you don't have these people on SSDI. Both the doctors and the attorneys are making real good money off this.

See how easy that was.

OF course, doctors have money, power and lobbyists, and attorneys have money, power and lobbyists. Poor people have sucky lobbyists.

Poor people are not interested in living someones version of the "Ameican Dream". They are much interested in surviving.

Stop the doctors, stop the attorneys, fix the problem.

ONE STATEMENT I AGREE WITH YOU ON: "stop the attorneys"

90% of physicians say they cause $600 billion a year in insurance health claim costs all out of fear of being sued by lawyers that make $100 billion a year!
Why not tax lawyers 10% of the $100 billion in fees like Obamacare did TANNING salons (cause they cause cancer) and use that $10 billion to pay premiums for
ALL the truly 8 million people that are UNINSURED and want health insurance!
Then as the $600 billion a year declined a direct reduction in the lawyers taxes would decline!
The savings of just 10% reduction i.e. NO MORE sending duplicate tests, referrals by physicians out of FEAR of being sued is $60 billion a year!

THEN hospitals that have BECAUSE MEDICARE FORCES them to see "uninsured" would NOT BE ALLoWED to pad claims sometimes by 6,000% they send to payers!

Hospitals would send "uninsured"claims to the Uninsured Health Insurance Co. that manages the 8 million "uninsured" premium from the lawyers!
Then watch how the claims costs sent by hospitals to Medicare/private insurance decline!

All of these having a reducing effect on health care costs which lowers insurance premium costs!

SO I agree STOP Lawyers" from encouraging lawsuits... which by the way most people don't know only 96% are settled out of court! Paying lawyers, plaintiff and adding
costs to the defendants!

 

[Katzndogz]

With all the benefits, my slut step-granddaughter makes about $5,000 a month. She gets welfare and WIC for her and her four kids. In addition, she goes to a local pantry and gets free food. The two oldest get three meals a day at school. She has a three bedroom two bath apartment for her and her kids. She gets a transportation voucher for the bus. She has a cell phone and a lifeline landline. Her utilities are subsidized. She gets kid's clothes from store donations at Closets for the poor, like she gets their Christmas presents from the many MANY giveaway programs. In addition, her oldest boy is "autistic" so she gets SSI for him, and the next oldest girl was disabled in a car accident because pothead mom forgot she had a kid with her on a munchie run. The girl was hit by a car in a 7-11 parking lot. So the slut gets SSI for her too. In addition, the slut has a welfare mother friend with three children. The friend gets money for providing child care for the slut's four children and the slut gets money for providing child care for the friend's three children.

The slut has no idea in the world who the fathers of any of her children are. Nor does she care. When she wants more money she gets pregnant, the man is just providing a stud service. She isn't being helped until she gets on her feet. She's never worked. She will never work.

What's sad is that at one time the slut had some ideas and ambition. She intended to join the military, the Coast Guard, and make it a career. But when she saw how many of her friends lived quite well without working, she changed her mind. Relieved of the responsibility of providing for herself she passes her boring days in a haze of marijuana smoke that she shares with her six year old "autistic" son. The veracity of the autism is questioned because the child once stayed with his uncle and all signs of autism disappeared in less than a week. He turned into a bright cheerful child who talked (he doesn't speak ordinarily it's a symptom of his autism), a blue streak and was curious about everything.

This is the jewel of the welfare state.

 

[Claudette]

There are loads more just like your step grand daughter out there and we taxpayers are footing the bills.

Makes you wonder what will happen 50 or 51% of the population aren't paying any Fed taxes??

 

[koshergrl]

True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like your disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

*********************

Were they sour they lost the deal or is it possible someone could get this much money (say...if they were disabled) ?

$3500/month....untaxed (not sure if that is the case) equates to about $4500/$5000/mo.

Wow.....

BTW: This was on a local Ford dealers Facebook page (or so the e-mail I got states).

I still find it all a bit tough to believe.

Nope, it's real.

AND if she has children in the home, they get small stipends to offset the fact that they have a disabled parent; and it's quite possible that she receives child support as well.

Many clients get multiple entitlements. I've had SSI moms who get SSI (disability for people who have no work quarters) for themselves, SSI for children...SSI supplements for children, TANF for the children, state-paid medicare premium, free (or almost free) rent and utilities, child support.

These families are not rare. For one thing, an SSI mom has never worked to amount to anything, or finished college, or done much of anything which means she's got something wrong with her. Sometimes it's just sheer overwhelming stupidity, laziness and complete committment to meeting the requirements of the entitlements she receives. These women usually get SSI because they test in the "special' range, have had tremendous trauma in their lives that has somehow stunted them. They come from insanely dysfunctional families...and we're not talking about garden variety drunks and addicts...SSI moms typically come from families that are known for functioning at a substandard level...families of "retards' and/or families known for incest/sex offenses, who have experienced trauma (often repeatedly) like house fires, murders, rapes, etc.

SSI families often hook up, giving you mixed families with two adults (and often children as well) on SSI for some diagnosed issue that prevents them from functioning as normal people in adult society.

These are the people who get a lot of supplements. They operate on the fringes of society. Yes they get involved in scams, yes they have entitlement mentalities (the world owes them a living, and usually it's been their family's role in the community for generations. These are often the village idiots.)

But they're just people. They can't take care of themselves, they're missing whatever gene it is that compels people to move forward, to become increasingly more self sufficient as years go by, to want to appear as capable adults in their children's eyes.

 

[koshergrl]

SSI isn't taxed, none of those entitlements are.

 

[Katzndogz]

There are loads more just like your step grand daughter out there and we taxpayers are footing the bills.

Makes you wonder what will happen 50 or 51% of the population aren't paying any Fed taxes??

I call her the SLUT step graddaughter. I know what will happen with over 50% don't pay taxes but suck up the services. I live in California. We're living the dream.

 

[auditor0007]

True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like your disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

*********************

Were they sour they lost the deal or is it possible someone could get this much money (say...if they were disabled) ?

$3500/month....untaxed (not sure if that is the case) equates to about $4500/$5000/mo.

Wow.....

BTW: This was on a local Ford dealers Facebook page (or so the e-mail I got states).

I still find it all a bit tough to believe.

Two quick points; I know someone who is on disability. It took her three years to get approval and this woman can barely walk. She truly is disabled from a car accident that messed up her back years ago. The second point regarding the amount of welfare this woman is supposedly receiving would be based on how many kids she has. My guess, and this is just a guess, is that she has five or more kids, and that is the reason she is receiving so much in aid.

We all know and hear stories of people who game the system, and believe me, nobody supports that, not even Democrats who work for a living. The difference is that Democrats don't want to gut welfare programs because of people who take advantage, because there is a realization that there are real people who truly need that aid and who cannot work or support themselves. By gutting these programs, as many Republicans would love to do, we would leave millions of truly needy people out on the street.

The system is not perfect, but you don't destroy the entire system because of some bad apples. Our justice system convicts innocent people all the time. Should we dump our justice system and let everyone go free because a few innocent people are wrongly sent to prison? That would be very much the same type of thinking, but I'm sure you would agree that doing such a thing would not be in our best interest.

 

[Nova78]

With all the benefits, my slut step-granddaughter makes about $5,000 a month. She gets welfare and WIC for her and her four kids. In addition, she goes to a local pantry and gets free food. The two oldest get three meals a day at school. She has a three bedroom two bath apartment for her and her kids. She gets a transportation voucher for the bus. She has a cell phone and a lifeline landline. Her utilities are subsidized. She gets kid's clothes from store donations at Closets for the poor, like she gets their Christmas presents from the many MANY giveaway programs. In addition, her oldest boy is "autistic" so she gets SSI for him, and the next oldest girl was disabled in a car accident because pothead mom forgot she had a kid with her on a munchie run. The girl was hit by a car in a 7-11 parking lot. So the slut gets SSI for her too. In addition, the slut has a welfare mother friend with three children. The friend gets money for providing child care for the slut's four children and the slut gets money for providing child care for the friend's three children.

The slut has no idea in the world who the fathers of any of her children are. Nor does she care. When she wants more money she gets pregnant, the man is just providing a stud service. She isn't being helped until she gets on her feet. She's never worked. She will never work.

What's sad is that at one time the slut had some ideas and ambition. She intended to join the military, the Coast Guard, and make it a career. But when she saw how many of her friends lived quite well without working, she changed her mind. Relieved of the responsibility of providing for herself she passes her boring days in a haze of marijuana smoke that she shares with her six year old "autistic" son. The veracity of the autism is questioned because the child once stayed with his uncle and all signs of autism disappeared in less than a week. He turned into a bright cheerful child who talked (he doesn't speak ordinarily it's a symptom of his autism), a blue streak and was curious about everything.

This is the jewel of the welfare state.

She could of used a few good bitch slaps years ago, but the truth is this shit will stop, we will go the way of Greece sooner than later,our Country is a financial ticking time bomb under the tremendous debt this Country faces,and when it does collapse it will not be pretty...

 

[Murf76]

I also find it funny Republicans want to wipe out Social security and say that is an entitlement well dam straight it is my parents paid into it and now they are getting what they have soued. The right truly does need to get its priorities straight.

There is no GOP plan to wipe out Social Security. To say otherwise is an outright LIE. Romney's plan doesn't change a single thing for people who are already retired or who will retire soon. AND... people who want Traditional Medicare will still be able to choose it.

 

[Care4all]

True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like your disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.

When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

*********************

Were they sour they lost the deal or is it possible someone could get this much money (say...if they were disabled) ?

$3500/month....untaxed (not sure if that is the case) equates to about $4500/$5000/mo.

Wow.....

BTW: This was on a local Ford dealers Facebook page (or so the e-mail I got states).

I still find it all a bit tough to believe.

IT IS SIMPLY A LIE, and impossible...the salesman LIED.... Just look it up yourself and see the CAPS on what he is claiming she gets.