ChrisL
Diamond Member
Since we already know that murder laws (which carry the highest penalties) do not deter these crazies, then we can also assume that they will not follow a silly gun control law. Therefore, I have to conclude that the anti rights people just want to leave people at the mercy of criminals and the racist murdering cops. Because that is the only thing they will be accomplishing, disarming people and preventing them from defending themselves against the criminals and murderers in society. Creating a great and safe working atmosphere for the criminal and murderer. Nice.David Hogg is the bad guy, not the gun/criminal/terrorist lobby, not the mass murderer. WTF is wrong with the idiots here?Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.
And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.
actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.
I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?
right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.
the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"
Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.
money.....
Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.
And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.
who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.
but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they? are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund? Me? I don't think there should be any money in politics except for a set amount allocated by the government for people running for office. poof. no more lobbies with money.
on background checks (which is really the bulk of what people are talking about)
NRA Chief's Bogus Background Check Claims - FactCheck.org
Analysis | Fact-checking Trump, NRA claims on gun background checks
NRA funding
How The Gun Industry Funnels Tens Of Millions Of Dollars To The NRA
oh... and this is why NRA money matters in an election (part of which I've already elaborated upon)
The real reason the NRA’s money matters in elections
and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.
and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.
oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?
I'll answer one of your questions
"are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund"?
Answer is yes- Planned Parenthood
-Geaux
He's not a bad guy. He is a stupid brainwashed kid who doesn't really understand his rights or how AMERICA works.