Violent criminal jailed for possessing 3D printed gun, and political hit list.

[Blackrook]

The "pro gun crowd" defends the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Are you saying you don't believe in the United States Constitution?

You are supporting tRump's end run around the Constitution, so you certainly don't support it.

What end run are you speaking of?

Where have you been all month?

This ridiculous "emergency" declaration. Even tRump has said it isn't an emergency.

Do you have proof that the President doesn't have the power to declare a national emergency? If so, provide proof.

He needs an emergency first. He has said himself this isn't an emergency.

FDR sent Japanese-Americans to concentration camps during World War II, and the Supreme Court declared it was constitutional under his powers as Commander-in-Chief.

So, Trump can build a wall.

 

[Crepitus]

You are supporting tRump's end run around the Constitution, so you certainly don't support it.

What end run are you speaking of?

Where have you been all month?

This ridiculous "emergency" declaration. Even tRump has said it isn't an emergency.

Do you have proof that the President doesn't have the power to declare a national emergency? If so, provide proof.

He needs an emergency first. He has said himself this isn't an emergency.

FDR sent Japanese-Americans to concentration camps during World War II, and the Supreme Court declared it was constitutional under his powers as Commander-in-Chief.

So, Trump can build a wall.

False equivalency doesn't advance your case. There is no emergency.

 

[BULLDOG]

Our screwball buddy couldn’t pass a background check so he got his hands on a 3D gun instead. Not to mention his little hitlist if politicians he wanted to take out .

Is this what the pro gun crowd fights for ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...akers-is-going-prison/?utm_term=.7191c071f9ea

Doesn't this prove that gun control does not work? Make a law and they will find a way to get around it.

Do homicides prove homicide control does not work? Make a law and murderers will find a way to get around it.

I guess we should legalize murder then...

Homocide is a crime, owning a gun is not. Bad comparison.

In the case of the person mentioned in the OP, owning a gun is a crime.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

FDR sent Japanese-Americans to concentration camps during World War II, and the Supreme Court declared it was constitutional under his powers as Commander-in-Chief.

So, Trump can build a wall.

Unless, of course, the court rules against it.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No, and what a stupid thing to say. Do murders prove murder laws don't work? Damn you gun nuts take leave of your senses the moment the topic arises.

If murder were a right, you would have a point.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If murder were a right, you would have a point

Sorry,anyone owning any gun they like is not a right. So I do have a point, and you do not. Try again...?

And..oops! You forgot to address my second point.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Our screwball buddy couldn’t pass a background check so he got his hands on a 3D gun instead. Not to mention his little hitlist if politicians he wanted to take out .

Is this what the pro gun crowd fights for ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...akers-is-going-prison/?utm_term=.7191c071f9ea

Doesn't this prove that gun control does not work? Make a law and they will find a way to get around it.

Do homicides prove homicide control does not work? Make a law and murderers will find a way to get around it.

I guess we should legalize murder then...

The huge difference is that gun control regulates the law abiding citizen.

Mark

If you ban guns only criminals will have guns!

if you build a wall criminals will go AROUND the walls.....

 

[anynameyouwish]

No, and what a stupid thing to say. Do murders prove murder laws don't work? Damn you gun nuts take leave of your senses the moment the topic arises.

If murder were a right, you would have a point.

Conservatives believe murder IS a right

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Please explain what banning colleges might have to do with this discussion.

You really don't see the....of course you don't...

Trump (allegedly) used the instrumentality of a college to defraud people of money (allegedly). So, if we use gun grabber logic, the instrumentality should be banned for all (or restricted, etc.)

Gun= instrumentalities

So, where one uses a gun to murder, you and your ilk want to ban the instruments.

So, we should ban colleges?

.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Our screwball buddy couldn’t pass a background check so he got his hands on a 3D gun instead. Not to mention his little hitlist if politicians he wanted to take out .

Is this what the pro gun crowd fights for ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...akers-is-going-prison/?utm_term=.7191c071f9ea

Doesn't this prove that gun control does not work? Make a law and they will find a way to get around it.

Do homicides prove homicide control does not work? Make a law and murderers will find a way to get around it.

I guess we should legalize murder then...

The huge difference is that gun control regulates the law abiding citizen.

Mark

GUN CONTROL

and the law abiding citizen SHOULD be regulated.

I want every person owning a gun in the USA to be LICENSED and TRAINED. I don't want morons running around loose with guns going off.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Conservatives believe murder IS a right

How so? (this is a trap)

 

[anynameyouwish]

Our screwball buddy couldn’t pass a background check so he got his hands on a 3D gun instead. Not to mention his little hitlist if politicians he wanted to take out .

Is this what the pro gun crowd fights for ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...akers-is-going-prison/?utm_term=.7191c071f9ea

Doesn't this prove that gun control does not work? Make a law and they will find a way to get around it.

If gun control prevented 1000 murders last year..(how would we know how many people did NOT die because of gun control laws?) then even if 1 murder occurs the laws worked.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

and the law abiding citizen SHOULD be regulated.

Nope

 

[anynameyouwish]

Conservatives believe murder IS a right

How so? (this is a trap)

did you actually NOT see the murder permit?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If gun control prevented 1000 murders last year..(how would we know how many people did NOT die because of gun control laws?) then even if 1 murder occurs the laws worked.

So, what about the millions of prevented assaults/robberies/murders/rapes due to guns used in self-defense?

.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So, what about the millions of prevented assaults/robberies/murders/rapes due to guns used in self-defense?

What about them? What control measure on the table will prevent those events?

 

[anynameyouwish]

and the law abiding citizen SHOULD be regulated.

Nope

Yup.

I want laws FORCING YOU to be licensed (legally, by law enforcement or military)
and TRAINED (legally, by law enforcement or military) in the care use and handling of guns.

like a car.

or a plane.

 

[anynameyouwish]

If gun control prevented 1000 murders last year..(how would we know how many people did NOT die because of gun control laws?) then even if 1 murder occurs the laws worked.

So, what about the millions of prevented assaults/robberies/murders/rapes due to guns used in self-defense?

.

Yes?

What about them?

I have no problem with people defending themselves.

With or without weapons.

I support the right of TRAINED, LICENSED and law abiding citizens to own guns.

 

[BULLDOG]

Please explain what banning colleges might have to do with this discussion.

You really don't see the....of course you don't...

Trump (allegedly) used the instrumentality of a college to defraud people of money (allegedly). So, if we use gun grabber logic, the instrumentality should be banned for all (or restricted, etc.)

Gun= instrumentalities

So, where one uses a gun to murder, you and your ilk want to ban the instruments.

So, we should ban colleges?

.

I get it. You're trying to use that "ban all guns" straw man, again. I don't know of any main stream effort to ban all guns. That's just another unfounded right wing claim. Now, do you care to get back to a reality based discussion?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Our screwball buddy couldn’t pass a background check so he got his hands on a 3D gun instead. Not to mention his little hitlist if politicians he wanted to take out .

Is this what the pro gun crowd fights for ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...akers-is-going-prison/?utm_term=.7191c071f9ea

Doesn't this prove that gun control does not work? Make a law and they will find a way to get around it.

The idea that no solution exists never occurs to the conservative, and in this lies their strength.