Violence spikes in St Louis region; Cops blamed for "not patrolling enough"; Sigh....

[Correll]

Oh really? Facts are 75% of non-filling households are White, only 20% are African American and Asians are 3% of the total of non-filing households. There are more Whites not filing than there are African Americans not filing.

You neglected to include the next sentence from the link you plagiarized. ......

"Overall, out of the 58 million taxable households that pay no income taxes some 56 percent of African American households pay no income taxes"


The Growing Class of Americans Who Pay No Federal Income Taxes Tax Foundation

And so what? All that means is that 56% had no tax liability not that they didn't file or didn't pay payroll taxes only to have it refunded (Same article says 48% African Americans will file a return with no liability). It simply means 56% had no tax liability some obvious due to the high poverty rate among them due to institutional racism. The same paragraph you quoted from also states that 40% of whites do not pay incomes taxes even though their poverty level is merely 9.9%

It undermines your complaint about them being taxed and supposedly getting inferior services.

Also, blaming institutional racism for black poverty at this late date (after generations of A.A. and War on Poverty, and ect. ect. ect) is not very believable.

You might want to at least gin up some new terminology.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Why should the cops care? If they run into a thug that wants to kill them and they have to use their gun...Well, it may be the end of their careers. Think carefully before you do your racist anti-cop bullshit or you probably won't like the result.

 

[S.J.]

Thing is the African American community is taxed, fined and levied against by the USA and local governments without providing them with adequate services of government or representation. I say they deserve a refund.

LOL........refund from what taxes?? ......

People on Section 8 and Food Stamps don't pay taxes. .....

Oh really? Facts are 75% of non-filling households are White, only 20% are African American and Asians are 3% of the total of non-filing households. There are more Whites not filing than there are African Americans not filing.

Standard lib tactic to hide various truths when discussing blacks, to start discussing Absolute numbers which do not take into account the much smaller black population or discuss percentages or relative proportions.

As blacks are only 12% of the population, for them to be 20% of the non-filing households, they are over represented by nearly 2 to 1 to their percentage of the population.

Does that figure include the ones in prison?

 

[Sunni Man]

And so what? All that means is that 56% had no tax liability not that they didn't file or didn't pay payroll taxes only to have it refunded (Same article says 48% African Americans will file a return with no liability). It simply means 56% had no tax liability some obvious due to the high poverty rate among them due to institutional racism. The same paragraph you quoted from also states that 40% of whites do not pay incomes taxes even though their poverty level is merely 9.9%

Try facing reality Shaniqua.

Most blacks don't work and live off government welfare programs. .......

 

[thereisnospoon]

Let them patrol themselves.

And Malcolm X would have agreed with you. He believed that the African American community should expect nothing good to come from White people. That they should be self-reliant and exercise self-determination and build their own economy and strengthen their own community and that White people have no business governing or policing a community that they are hostile towards. He believed that African Americans should do everything within their power to ensure justice and to protect their lives and property by any means necessary.

Malcolm x was an idiot....and reaped the death he deserved for the poison he preached....Whites are not hostile to blacks....they don't care about race....blacks are told that racism holds them back...by the political party that owned their ancestors as slaves and tried to keep them from voting...and after 60 years of voting for the racist party...the democrats...who hung them, bombed them, beat them and then finally used welfare to entrap them....they wonder why their community is such a mess...and why the rich democrats of all colors only have enough police to keep the rich democrats safe...while violent monsters run wild in black and Latino neighborhoods....

wised up...the democrat party hates you...stop voting for them....your children deserve a future...

"Whites don`t care about race" That will be the funniest thing anyone posts today. How many threads on this board are not about race?

No. We don't...The fact is that if race and the politics of identity were not rammed down our throats, the issue would rarely be discussed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Maybe if people acted and behaved the right way, this kind of problem wouldn't even be in the picture. So many cops being out there n the beat wouldn't be such a given then.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

That's racist.."personal responsibility"...Racist.
Maintaining the family structure. Racist.
The list would gobble up so much USMB band width, the server would catch fire.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Onetime center of St. Louis black middle class now fights high murder count News

Who didnt see this coming? Violence surged in St Louis metro area as 2014 numbers show. But....it showed about 66% of all murders...occurred in only 8 of the 28 burroughs...about 30%.

Article shows some leaders asked to explain the discrepancy.

"Police dont patrol enough" came up. Of course.

But...what if police stopped these thugs...and arrested them on warrants or drug or gun charges and searched them?

Well...that may have PREVENTED a murder they may have been on the way to commit.....but then those racist stats show up in a DOJ report.


Seriously. ...how long til cops just say fuck it?

Cops should go on strike, at least for two weeks, and let the whole country whinge for a while.

And white cops should just look the other way if they have to enter communities where they are not wanted.

Let blacks join the police, or have no police at all, in the communities where they are the majority.

Will be interesting to see if more than 11% of Fergsonites turn out this time, or if they let whitey elect their local government again.

That would be playing right into the hands of the race baiters. For the most part, Police officers are dedicated professionals who in contrast to popular belief, do not see color. They answer calls for service. They arrest criminals. They do things outside of police work to establish a rapport with the community in which they work.
During the holidays there were several reports, posts on social media that depicted police officers doing things for their local communities.
None of the typical parachute race conscious activists had a damned thing positive to say about it. The main stream media largely ignored the deeds.

 

[bucs90]

Why should the cops care? If they run into a thug that wants to kill them and they have to use their gun...Well, it may be the end of their careers. Think carefully before you do your racist anti-cop bullshit or you probably won't like the result.

Yep. Remember the last phase of intense cop hatred in the 60s and early 70s?? What followed was the late 70s and 80s...among the most violent crime years ever.

Then people demanded cops win back the streets. War on drugs came. Big growth in police. New tactics and strategies. The cops who experiences the prior cop hate retired out and were replaced by young optimistic officers.

And things got pretty damn good in the 90s and 00s. And liberals...hated it.

Now...here we go again. A new decade of intense crime is dawning.

 

[Oldstyle]

Let them patrol themselves.

And Malcolm X would have agreed with you. He believed that the African American community should expect nothing good to come from White people. That they should be self-reliant and exercise self-determination and build their own economy and strengthen their own community and that White people have no business governing or policing a community that they are hostile towards. He believed that African Americans should do everything within their power to ensure justice and to protect their lives and property by any means necessary.

Lest you forget, in the ultimate irony...Malcolm was assassinated by African Americans. So much for that concept of protecting their own lives!

 

[Oldstyle]

Let them patrol themselves.

And Malcolm X would have agreed with you. He believed that the African American community should expect nothing good to come from White people. That they should be self-reliant and exercise self-determination and build their own economy and strengthen their own community and that White people have no business governing or policing a community that they are hostile towards. He believed that African Americans should do everything within their power to ensure justice and to protect their lives and property by any means necessary.

I have no problem with them patrolling themselves, just don't ask me to finance it.

Thing is the African American community is taxed, fined and levied against by the USA and local governments without providing them with adequate services of government or representation. I say they deserve a refund.

This is America, Cynthia...here we have the power of the vote. Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them. Or they can burn their own neighborhoods to the ground. Gee, explain to me how THAT helps things in any way?

 

[CynthiaZ]

And so what? All that means is that 56% had no tax liability not that they didn't file or didn't pay payroll taxes only to have it refunded (Same article says 48% African Americans will file a return with no liability). It simply means 56% had no tax liability some obvious due to the high poverty rate among them due to institutional racism. The same paragraph you quoted from also states that 40% of whites do not pay incomes taxes even though their poverty level is merely 9.9%

Try facing reality Shaniqua.

Most blacks don't work and live off government welfare programs. .......

I know shit stomping cud chewing backwoods moron such as yourself "ain't no good at figurin'" but the stats say 56% had no tax liability. 48% of Africans file income tax but have no liability meaning they work. A small percentage do not file most likely due to poverty and unemployment. So what about the rest of the percentile? Those African Americans file and pay taxes meaning most African Americans work and file taxes even though some will have no tax liability.

 

[CynthiaZ]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

 

[Sunni Man]

I know shit stomping cud chewing backwoods moron such as yourself "ain't no good at figurin'" but the stats say 56% had no tax liability. 48% of Africans file income tax but have no liability meaning they work. A small percentage do not file most likely due to poverty and unemployment. So what about the rest of the percentile? Those African Americans file and pay taxes meaning most African Americans work and file taxes even though some will have no tax liability.

I can easily see that a hood rat like you Shaniqua doesn't have a solid grasp on basic statistics.

You must have been out getting a hair weave and smoking crack while that class was being taught at school. .....

 

[thereisnospoon]

And so what? All that means is that 56% had no tax liability not that they didn't file or didn't pay payroll taxes only to have it refunded (Same article says 48% African Americans will file a return with no liability). It simply means 56% had no tax liability some obvious due to the high poverty rate among them due to institutional racism. The same paragraph you quoted from also states that 40% of whites do not pay incomes taxes even though their poverty level is merely 9.9%

Try facing reality Shaniqua.

Most blacks don't work and live off government welfare programs. .......

I know shit stomping cud chewing backwoods moron such as yourself "ain't no good at figurin'" but the stats say 56% had no tax liability. 48% of Africans file income tax but have no liability meaning they work. A small percentage do not file most likely due to poverty and unemployment. So what about the rest of the percentile? Those African Americans file and pay taxes meaning most African Americans work and file taxes even though some will have no tax liability.

Standing in the middle or a crowded room screeching does not make you any more correct.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

Taken advantage of? How so? Use your own words.
Your entire post is racist.

 

[CynthiaZ]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

Taken advantage of? How so? Use your own words.
Your entire post is racist.

How is saying African American communities should self-reliant and exercise self-determination racist?

 

[2aguy]

I remember back in the 1980's and 90's black cops where suing the cities where they worked.

Because they were mainly being assigned to predominately African American communities

Basically, they didn't like having to patrol the hood. ......

because it is really dangerous compared to the rich, white, democrat parts of these cities...

 

[S.J.]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

In other words, they shouldn't have bought into the Democrat's promises of taking care of them.

 

[Oldstyle]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

Taken advantage of? How so? Use your own words.
Your entire post is racist.

How is saying African American communities should self-reliant and exercise self-determination racist?

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

It's hard for me to see someone who fails to avail themselves of the opportunity to both vote and run for elected office as being "taken advantage of", Cynthia. One of my ancestors lost an arm fighting in the Civil War to give blacks those kinds of rights. It's sad to witness a black community like Ferguson who appears not to have cared enough about those rights to use them.

 

[CynthiaZ]

Ferguson is a predominantly black city that has been run by white's elected to office. If the Ferguson black community doesn't like the way things run in their city then they need to get off their collective asses and run for office to change them

I agree with you on that. A predominately black city should be self-reliant. They should have built a strong community among themselves, formed leadership councils to address the needs of their own community, built a local economy and whole bunch of things. They weren't being self-reliant when they could be and they relied too much on the white government to take care of their needs when they should have taken leadership and exercised self-determination. They relied on whites to trickle down some crumbs to them instead of taking their own destiny as a community into their own hands. They failed to exercise their power as a community and were taken advantage of.

In other words, they shouldn't have bought into the Democrat's promises of taking care of them.

Of course not. They should have looked out for their own self-interest rather than maintain a misguided loyalty to a political party that does nothing but trickle down crumbs to them. When has the Democratic party ever helped poor communities build a local economy? I mean the Republicans won't do that either but we expect that from them, but the Democrats make promises that they will help but just give some crumbs and expect those crumbs are sufficient.