US Navy will scrap nuclear submarine due to budget cuts under Obama admin

[Little-Acorn]

After a disgruntled dock worker set a fire aboard a US nuclear submarine, the Navy was going to repair it and send it back out to sea.

But with budget cuts under the Obama administration, they have changed their minds, and will scrap it.

Elections have consequences. A weakened military is one of them.

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Navy drops plans to repair USS Miami sub

Navy drops plans to repair USS Miami sub

David Sharp, Associated Press
10 hours ago
Aug. 7, 2013

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) -- The Navy has decided to scrap the USS Miami instead of repairing the nuclear-powered submarine because of budget cuts accompanied by growing costs of repairing damage from a fire set by a civilian worker at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, officials said Tuesday.

Rear Adm. Rick Breckenridge, director of undersea warfare, said repairing the Groton, Conn.-based sub would have meant canceling work on dozens of other ships because of new budget constraints. He said that would've hurt the Navy's overall readiness.

"The Navy and the nation simply cannot afford to weaken other fleet readiness in the way that would be required to afford repairs to Miami," Breckenridge said in a statement.

 

[Moonglow]

how many is not enough? sub numbers have been decreasing since 1992.

 

[Trajan]

she was launched in 88...*shrugs, guess its time to exit stage left...

 

[Wyatt earp]

heard they wanted to mouth ball a few aircraft carriers AIR CRAFT CARRIERS? what is Obama nuts? he lost his marbles....

 

[SFC Ollie]

Our Military is shrinking. It is already smaller than when I retired in 93. How small will it be when they are done?

There are Boy Scout troops that will be bigger, and maybe better equipped......

 

[bodecea]

Our Military is shrinking. It is already smaller than when I retired in 93. How small will it be when they are done?

There are Boy Scout troops that will be bigger, and maybe better equipped......

Really? You know we are the biggest military in the world by far, right?

 

[SFC Ollie]

I know that at the end of Desert Storm we were the best trained and best equipped military in the history of the world. I'm not so sure I can say that today.....

 

[mudwhistle]

Our Military is shrinking. It is already smaller than when I retired in 93. How small will it be when they are done?

There are Boy Scout troops that will be bigger, and maybe better equipped......

Really? You know we are the biggest military in the world by far, right?

Link


Oh, forget it.

China is larger. Top 10 Countries with Largest Armies in the World 2012 | OMG Top Tens List

 

[mudwhistle]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKD2qvww1VE]Top 10 Military Forces in the World - YouTube[/ame]

 

[velvtacheeze]

Good. If we lessen the ability to bully the world, we lessen the desire to bully the world.

 

[rdean]

I know that at the end of Desert Storm we were the best trained and best equipped military in the history of the world. I'm not so sure I can say that today.....

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld answers questions about things that went wrong in Iraq

A National Guard scout from Tennessee asked why there was still an equipment shortage that forced units to scrounge for "hillbilly armor": "pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass that's already been shot up, dropped, busted." When the cheering died down, Mr. Rumsfeld said that, really, there was plenty of armor and in any case, "all the armor in the world" might not save you from a roadside bomb.

A spokesman for the questioner's unit told reporters that 95 percent of its 300 trucks were not sufficiently armored.

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I was in the Service from 75 to 79 and the equipment was old then. The barracks I stayed at housed Jews in WWII and there was slime running down the outside of the building from the showers. And I was part of a unit nuclear capable.

 

[RoadVirus]

As long as the Dumbos have plenty of money for welfare goodies, they care about nothing else, including our military readiness.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Our military doesn't need to be this large.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I know that at the end of Desert Storm we were the best trained and best equipped military in the history of the world. I'm not so sure I can say that today.....

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld answers questions about things that went wrong in Iraq

A National Guard scout from Tennessee asked why there was still an equipment shortage that forced units to scrounge for "hillbilly armor": "pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass that's already been shot up, dropped, busted." When the cheering died down, Mr. Rumsfeld said that, really, there was plenty of armor and in any case, "all the armor in the world" might not save you from a roadside bomb.

A spokesman for the questioner's unit told reporters that 95 percent of its 300 trucks were not sufficiently armored.

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I was in the Service from 75 to 79 and the equipment was old then. The barracks I stayed at housed Jews in WWII and there was slime running down the outside of the building from the showers. And I was part of a unit nuclear capable.

You are aware of course that before Iraq we did NOT armor our trucks? Not a single truck was armored or had ballistic glass. What was supposed to happen was as needed a truck would be reinforced with sandbags as in Vietnam. Further most Hummers were utility vehicles with NO armor and no ballistic glass, In fact their side doors were plastic glass and rubber doors.

Every soldier and marine had a flak jacket which was standard issue almost no one had bullet resistant body armor.

Rumsfeld was right, you go to war with the Army you have. As things change you adapt and over come. It takes time to up armor hundreds of thousands of trucks and Hummers. Ohh by the way? The up armor ruined the vehicles. It made them to heavy and they wore out much faster then designed too.

As for ballistic armor for troops no one had that prior to Iraq. It was not contemplated at all. So a military system where it takes YEARS of research and study to field new appropriately tested gear scrambled around and got what it could with out testing, which cost us big bucks cause some of the gear turned out was useless for the mission. But again even assuming one has the right gear to go from zero to HUNDREDS of thousands of an item takes time money and research.

I know the press chose to IGNORE these facts but I suspect you have been informed before of the realities.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Rumsfeld was right, you go to war with the Army you have.

When you're attacked, yes. When it's a war of choice, that's a different story.

 

[Mr. H.]

heard they wanted to mouth ball a few aircraft carriers AIR CRAFT CARRIERS? what is Obama nuts? he lost his marbles....

He never had the marbles.

...or the yarbles.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I know that at the end of Desert Storm we were the best trained and best equipped military in the history of the world. I'm not so sure I can say that today.....

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld answers questions about things that went wrong in Iraq

A National Guard scout from Tennessee asked why there was still an equipment shortage that forced units to scrounge for "hillbilly armor": "pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass that's already been shot up, dropped, busted." When the cheering died down, Mr. Rumsfeld said that, really, there was plenty of armor and in any case, "all the armor in the world" might not save you from a roadside bomb.

A spokesman for the questioner's unit told reporters that 95 percent of its 300 trucks were not sufficiently armored.

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I was in the Service from 75 to 79 and the equipment was old then. The barracks I stayed at housed Jews in WWII and there was slime running down the outside of the building from the showers. And I was part of a unit nuclear capable.

You are aware of course that before Iraq we did NOT armor our trucks? Not a single truck was armored or had ballistic glass. What was supposed to happen was as needed a truck would be reinforced with sandbags as in Vietnam. Further most Hummers were utility vehicles with NO armor and no ballistic glass, In fact their side doors were plastic glass and rubber doors.

Every soldier and marine had a flak jacket which was standard issue almost no one had bullet resistant body armor.

Rumsfeld was right, you go to war with the Army you have. As things change you adapt and over come. It takes time to up armor hundreds of thousands of trucks and Hummers. Ohh by the way? The up armor ruined the vehicles. It made them to heavy and they wore out much faster then designed too.

As for ballistic armor for troops no one had that prior to Iraq. It was not contemplated at all. So a military system where it takes YEARS of research and study to field new appropriately tested gear scrambled around and got what it could with out testing, which cost us big bucks cause some of the gear turned out was useless for the mission. But again even assuming one has the right gear to go from zero to HUNDREDS of thousands of an item takes time money and research.

I know the press chose to IGNORE these facts but I suspect you have been informed before of the realities.

And of course Deano ignored that I stated "AT THE END" of Desert Storm.. The problems with amour on light vehicles (designed to be light) was in the Gulf war part 2.... Not Desert Shield Desert Storm..... And of course we know those were two different types of war....

 

[rdean]

I know that at the end of Desert Storm we were the best trained and best equipped military in the history of the world. I'm not so sure I can say that today.....

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld answers questions about things that went wrong in Iraq

A National Guard scout from Tennessee asked why there was still an equipment shortage that forced units to scrounge for "hillbilly armor": "pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass that's already been shot up, dropped, busted." When the cheering died down, Mr. Rumsfeld said that, really, there was plenty of armor and in any case, "all the armor in the world" might not save you from a roadside bomb.

A spokesman for the questioner's unit told reporters that 95 percent of its 300 trucks were not sufficiently armored.

---------------------------------------------

I was in the Service from 75 to 79 and the equipment was old then. The barracks I stayed at housed Jews in WWII and there was slime running down the outside of the building from the showers. And I was part of a unit nuclear capable.

You are aware of course that before Iraq we did NOT armor our trucks? Not a single truck was armored or had ballistic glass. What was supposed to happen was as needed a truck would be reinforced with sandbags as in Vietnam. Further most Hummers were utility vehicles with NO armor and no ballistic glass, In fact their side doors were plastic glass and rubber doors.

Every soldier and marine had a flak jacket which was standard issue almost no one had bullet resistant body armor.

Rumsfeld was right, you go to war with the Army you have. As things change you adapt and over come. It takes time to up armor hundreds of thousands of trucks and Hummers. Ohh by the way? The up armor ruined the vehicles. It made them to heavy and they wore out much faster then designed too.

As for ballistic armor for troops no one had that prior to Iraq. It was not contemplated at all. So a military system where it takes YEARS of research and study to field new appropriately tested gear scrambled around and got what it could with out testing, which cost us big bucks cause some of the gear turned out was useless for the mission. But again even assuming one has the right gear to go from zero to HUNDREDS of thousands of an item takes time money and research.

I know the press chose to IGNORE these facts but I suspect you have been informed before of the realities.

Believe me I understand. Republicans always care more about "money" than Americans, whether soldiers or civilians. It's who they are. And what was the mission in Iraq? Get those oil wells. And it didn't work out. They never asked us there. Bush told us he was disappointed there were no (slam dunk) WMD's.
And now we have tens of thousands of Americans maimed for life with Republicans coming up with new ways to figure out how we can avoid paying for the injuries.

And it makes me feel a lot better knowing Rumsfeld was right.

 

[Geaux4it]

Yep- Adolf Obama has reduced the US Army to numbers not seen since before WW-II.

Yet he is building his civilian Army that is just as strong, just as well funded

-Geaux

 

[thereisnospoon]

Our Military is shrinking. It is already smaller than when I retired in 93. How small will it be when they are done?

There are Boy Scout troops that will be bigger, and maybe better equipped......

Really? You know we are the biggest military in the world by far, right?

Once again..one of you limp wristed bed wetting libs gets their jello-ass kicked in the facts department..See mudwhistle's post below..