Update: The Illegal Alien Vote




If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Truman.

Bravo. You met my expectations. Carry on with your screed-thread.


Come back for more anytime your masochism kicks in.

Honestly, it's weird. I drive by your threads occasionally the way I drive by wrecks at the side of the road, just sort of in awe at the amount of destructiveness and vituperation that you bring into the USMB. I just can't take them seriously. Your prideful and cherry picked pseudo science arguments and doctrinaire divisiveness of our fellow Americans is sad to me. I and I also feel a deep and despairing sadness behind your seemingly brave posts and hollow boasts, and honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune.



You haven't said anything beyond "pleeeeesssseee don't hurt my widdle feelings!!!!"

You have an open invitation to quote any part of the thread and watch me rip your post to shreds.





"...honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune."

You appear to be one of those really boring people who use their fingers to air-quote as they speak.

I nailed it, huh?
What else needs to be said that hasn't already thoroughly debunked your bullshit? At this point, this thread drags on for no reason other than the entertainment value of watching you wallow in your own logorrhea. Meanwhile, your thread is debunked....

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​
 
The imaginary illegal alien vote.
Parallels the imaginary successful Trump administration.

My wife works for the election board in my state and she says there are so many safeguards anyone claiming massive fraud are idiots.

Isn't that what Tramp said?

Nuffsaid.


Guess again, you dunce:

"AB60 licenses are said to require proof of identity, but the use of a Mexican Consular Card has been brought into serious question. A Mexican Federal Electoral Card, Mexican Institute National Electoral Card, Mexican Passport, or Mexican Consular Card are accepted as forms of ID to procure a California driver license. Several other types of foreign identification cards may be used as well."
California Licenses 800K Illegal Aliens as Motor Voter Law Looms - Breitbart
Just how ignorant are you??

How many times are you going to point out how illegal aliens are getting AB-60 driver's licenses as evidence of illegal voting when you are shown over and over and over again that AB-60 licenses cannot be used to vote...

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

... can't be used to register to vote from a DMV like citizens can...

Election Code, Division II, Chapter 4.5 § 2263

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.

... and from your own source, the L.A. Times...

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​
 
Now....remember the Old Dominion study?
"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.



But....if 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted last time

....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty (as per the video)

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????

You bet they did.

Soooo....how many?

This is from the article that you posted, idiot -

"However, our results also support the arguments made by voting and immigrant rights organizations that the portion of non-citizen immigrants who participate in U.S. elections is quite small. Indeed, given the extraordinary efforts made by the Obama and McCain campaigns to mobilize voters in 2008, the relatively small portion of non-citizens who voted in 2008 likely exceeded the portion of non-citizens voting in other recent U.S. elections."

So what exactly are you whining about, again?

Repug voter suppression of minorities is a much bigger problem, as indicated in this recent N. Carolina appeals court ruling. Even the arch-conservative U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear this case, after the Repug N. Carolina government objected:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html?_r=0

You see a pattern here, lightweight? I, the liberal, present real evidence to support my position. You, the hopelessly stupid, unsophisticated Repug partisan goober hack, present absolutely nothing.

You've got nothing, Repug lightweight. You're nothing but a sad Trump clown. Go put your clown suit on.



"However, our results also support the arguments made by voting and immigrant rights organizations that the portion of non-citizen immigrants who participate in U.S. elections is quite small."


Sooo...you've provided an admission that illegal aliens vote.

Excellent beginning.

You should continue in this vein, and admit that your incapable of thinking, and simply parrot DNC talking point.


Immediately.

Not really. "Quite small" can mean nothing. What's shameful is how you've exaggerated this "problem" immensely, like the intellectually dishonest Trump Repug clown that are. While ignoring the much bigger voter suppression problem, of course.

Not that your shameful dishonesty bothers you at all.


"Quite small" can mean nothing."

But you don't now what it means, huh?

It is an admission that illegal aliens vote...illegally....just as the snake, Obama, told them to.




Now...how about admitting that your posts are dictated directly from the DNC.

Waiting.
Well since you can name only one illegal alien who voted in 2016, it's safe to say -- "small" isn't 3,000,000.


Soooo....you're retreated to now admitting that illegal aliens did vote?

Excellent.


How many?
 
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Truman.

Bravo. You met my expectations. Carry on with your screed-thread.


Come back for more anytime your masochism kicks in.

Honestly, it's weird. I drive by your threads occasionally the way I drive by wrecks at the side of the road, just sort of in awe at the amount of destructiveness and vituperation that you bring into the USMB. I just can't take them seriously. Your prideful and cherry picked pseudo science arguments and doctrinaire divisiveness of our fellow Americans is sad to me. I and I also feel a deep and despairing sadness behind your seemingly brave posts and hollow boasts, and honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune.



You haven't said anything beyond "pleeeeesssseee don't hurt my widdle feelings!!!!"

You have an open invitation to quote any part of the thread and watch me rip your post to shreds.





"...honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune."

You appear to be one of those really boring people who use their fingers to air-quote as they speak.

I nailed it, huh?
What else needs to be said that hasn't already thoroughly debunked your bullshit? At this point, this thread drags on for no reason other than the entertainment value of watching you wallow in your own logorrhea. Meanwhile, your thread is debunked....

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​



Why are your forced to default to vulgarity?

Is it because of how thoroughly defeated you feel?
 
Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.
Sounds like wishful thinking. Why are you all still trying to prove he won the popular vote?


He did.
The only way Bill's wife's totals were higher is to count illegal alien votes.

We don't.


My motive is to remove even the most tenuous claims the Left has to cling to to hide the fact that Americans kicked them to the curb.


Get it now?
Be sure to let the forum know when you find the second illegal alien who voted in the 2016 election.

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Five million illegal Mexicans registered to vote, without being caught!

Five million illegal Mexicans voted for Hillary, without being caught!

Those illegal Mexicans are GENIUSES!!!

They need to teach the dumb shit Republicans who keep getting caught.
 
Speaking of parroting the talking points that the DNC delivers to you, imagine how stupid you will self-identify with that avi when the DNC does an about face and admits that there never was any Trump-Russian collusion.

And you will be left with even more egg on your face than you are after your last post.


Of course, it will in no way lower anyone's opinion of you.
You've managed that already.

What rock have you been living under?

The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week on May 19, 2017. They don't turn a congressional probe into a criminial investigation unless there is solid evidence of wrong-doing.

"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday said it’s clear that after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein briefed the Senate on the investigation into Russian involvement in the presidential election that it has become a criminal probe.

“The shock to the body is that this is now a criminal investigation,” Graham (R-SC) told reporters moments after he exited the Senate chamber.

He said now that it has become a criminal investigation instead of an counterintelligence probe Congress may be impeded in carrying out its own examinations.

“You’ve got a special counsel who has prosecutorial powers now, and I think we in Congress have to be very careful not to interfere,” Graham said. “Public access to this is probably going to be very limited now. It’s going to really limit what the public will know about this.”
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/

58d258c720a42.image.jpg



"The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week "



Is that what the DNC told you?




1. "Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.


TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart









2. "While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states." FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror







3. Democrat Feinstein, too







4. Here is 'proud Hillary voter,' Alan Dershowitz, protesting that 'there is no crime.'

Dershowitz: 'There is no statute that has been violated....firing Comey is [Trump's] constitutional and statutory right...'







5. Democrat Joe Manchin: no evidence






6.Maxine Waters: no evidence


Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia
Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia



7. Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations




Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations

Comey Said He Had NOT Been Pressured To End Any Investigation, Debunks Leftist Media Narrative



In other words, egregious corruption is perfectly acceptable to low IQ Repugs such as yourself, as long as no "crime" is being committed. Got it.

Let me break it down for you, unsophisticated lightweight....you ain't clever, you're just intellectually dishonest and pathetically stupid.




"....no "crime" is being committed."



Exactly....no crime.

Hence, your avi title identifies you as exactly what you are, an easily led imbecile.

True?


This coming from the dumb fuck who used an article as evidence when the article stated that the illegal alien voting "problem" is very small.

Your shit is weak, Repug. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect.

She's also same moron who linked an article from the L.A. Times which did not state illegals could register to vote, though she claimed it did; but her article did include a link which described how illegal aliens are not registered to vote.

Much of the material which refutes her idiocy comes from her. :badgrin:
 
The imaginary illegal alien vote.
Parallels the imaginary successful Trump administration.

My wife works for the election board in my state and she says there are so many safeguards anyone claiming massive fraud are idiots.

Isn't that what Tramp said?

Nuffsaid.


Guess again, you dunce:

"AB60 licenses are said to require proof of identity, but the use of a Mexican Consular Card has been brought into serious question. A Mexican Federal Electoral Card, Mexican Institute National Electoral Card, Mexican Passport, or Mexican Consular Card are accepted as forms of ID to procure a California driver license. Several other types of foreign identification cards may be used as well."
California Licenses 800K Illegal Aliens as Motor Voter Law Looms - Breitbart
Just how ignorant are you??

How many times are you going to point out how illegal aliens are getting AB-60 driver's licenses as evidence of illegal voting when you are shown over and over and over again that AB-60 licenses cannot be used to vote...

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

... can't be used to register to vote from a DMV like citizens can...

Election Code, Division II, Chapter 4.5 § 2263

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.

... and from your own source, the L.A. Times...

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​



Of course the bogus IDs and driver's licenses are intended to be used for the purpose of voting for Democrats.

There is no other explanation for elected Democrats devising the scam for criminals....law-breakers....who illegally invaded our country.

They increase unemployment, cost vast sums in welfare benefits, weigh down the justice system, and decrease the standard of living for real Americans.

Yet.....Democrats give them documents that allow them to vote.....it's a quid pro quo.

See:
130914030112-dnt-ca-undocumented-immigrant-drivers-licenses-00002129-story-top.jpg
 
What rock have you been living under?

The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week on May 19, 2017. They don't turn a congressional probe into a criminial investigation unless there is solid evidence of wrong-doing.

"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday said it’s clear that after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein briefed the Senate on the investigation into Russian involvement in the presidential election that it has become a criminal probe.

“The shock to the body is that this is now a criminal investigation,” Graham (R-SC) told reporters moments after he exited the Senate chamber.

He said now that it has become a criminal investigation instead of an counterintelligence probe Congress may be impeded in carrying out its own examinations.

“You’ve got a special counsel who has prosecutorial powers now, and I think we in Congress have to be very careful not to interfere,” Graham said. “Public access to this is probably going to be very limited now. It’s going to really limit what the public will know about this.”
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/

58d258c720a42.image.jpg



"The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week "



Is that what the DNC told you?




1. "Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.


TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart









2. "While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states." FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror







3. Democrat Feinstein, too







4. Here is 'proud Hillary voter,' Alan Dershowitz, protesting that 'there is no crime.'

Dershowitz: 'There is no statute that has been violated....firing Comey is [Trump's] constitutional and statutory right...'







5. Democrat Joe Manchin: no evidence






6.Maxine Waters: no evidence


Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia
Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia



7. Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations




Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations

Comey Said He Had NOT Been Pressured To End Any Investigation, Debunks Leftist Media Narrative



In other words, egregious corruption is perfectly acceptable to low IQ Repugs such as yourself, as long as no "crime" is being committed. Got it.

Let me break it down for you, unsophisticated lightweight....you ain't clever, you're just intellectually dishonest and pathetically stupid.




"....no "crime" is being committed."



Exactly....no crime.

Hence, your avi title identifies you as exactly what you are, an easily led imbecile.

True?


This coming from the dumb fuck who used an article as evidence when the article stated that the illegal alien voting "problem" is very small.

Your shit is weak, Repug. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect.



Your language, learned from the bathroom wall, is exactly what should be expected from one of your perspective.

And here we have PoliticalHack's white flag -- where she bitches about vulgarity as a cover for not being able to refute a post.

:banana:
 
Proof.....coming right out.....of PC's ass.


One can always tell by the resort to coarseness that I've hit a nerve.

The funny bone.

We're laughing at you and your lists of nonsense...




You wouldn't be here if you weren't wounded by the truth.


So that we don't lose sight of what this thread has revealed, let's review:


1. California is the state with the largest number of illegal aliens


2. They and a dozen other states give illegals IDs and driver's licenses


3. When they sign up for driver's licenses, they are automatically registered to vote.
That is, after all, the raison d'être for Democrats giving them driver's licenses and IDs, and enticing them into the country.


4. The main issue in this election was whether illegal aliens would be allowed to remain in this country....so of course they's rush to the polls to vote for Bill's wife.


5. Imbeciles....Democrats.....maintain that these honest, law-abiding non-citizens (illegal aliens) would never break the law and vote....even though they did just that to get here......
...and...

....even though the snake, Obama, told them to and that there'd be no repercussions.


6. Millions of illegal aliens voted for the loser, and Americans made Donald Trump the President.

QED

Makes sense, huh?
 
"The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week "



Is that what the DNC told you?




1. "Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.


TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart









2. "While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states." FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror







3. Democrat Feinstein, too







4. Here is 'proud Hillary voter,' Alan Dershowitz, protesting that 'there is no crime.'

Dershowitz: 'There is no statute that has been violated....firing Comey is [Trump's] constitutional and statutory right...'







5. Democrat Joe Manchin: no evidence






6.Maxine Waters: no evidence


Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia
Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia



7. Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations




Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations

Comey Said He Had NOT Been Pressured To End Any Investigation, Debunks Leftist Media Narrative



In other words, egregious corruption is perfectly acceptable to low IQ Repugs such as yourself, as long as no "crime" is being committed. Got it.

Let me break it down for you, unsophisticated lightweight....you ain't clever, you're just intellectually dishonest and pathetically stupid.




"....no "crime" is being committed."



Exactly....no crime.

Hence, your avi title identifies you as exactly what you are, an easily led imbecile.

True?


This coming from the dumb fuck who used an article as evidence when the article stated that the illegal alien voting "problem" is very small.

Your shit is weak, Repug. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect.



Your language, learned from the bathroom wall, is exactly what should be expected from one of your perspective.

And here we have PoliticalHack's white flag -- where she bitches about vulgarity as a cover for not being able to refute a post.

:banana:




1. I am always amazed at how low-class your side is....as you prove with the vulgarity.

2. I did refute your attempt to hide the Democrat scam of accretion of voted from illegal aliens.
 
Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.
Sounds like wishful thinking. Why are you all still trying to prove he won the popular vote?


He did.
The only way Bill's wife's totals were higher is to count illegal alien votes.

We don't.


My motive is to remove even the most tenuous claims the Left has to cling to to hide the fact that Americans kicked them to the curb.


Get it now?
I see what you're doing but think it's a waste of your time. And of course the burden of proof lies with you for your claims. Not sure why you're eve talking about it with out the proof.
3. When they [illegals] sign up for driver's licenses, they are automatically registered to vote.
That's a lie. I don't care how many times you repeat it. Illegals in California, cannot by law, be registered to vote...

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

... and they are not being registered to vote when they obtain their AB-60 driver's license...

Election Code, Division II, Chapter 4.5 § 2263

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.

Now stop lying. :eusa_naughty:

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There is this hugh and cry against voter registration, by liberals. Because it's "discriminatory", and that says a lot. If you aren't a legal voter and can't prove it, you shouldn't VOTE. I see how illegals aliens are getting all these rights and privileges they didn't earn, and it makes me so cynical about our legal system.
 
There is this hugh and cry against voter registration, by liberals. Because it's "discriminatory", and that says a lot. If you aren't a legal voter and can't prove it, you shouldn't VOTE. I see how illegals aliens are getting all these rights and privileges they didn't earn, and it makes me so cynical about our legal system.

Dumb post from someone as dumb as a post. The opposition to bother ID laws has nothing to do with people who are not legally entitled to vote.

Check out this good news.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-legislature-oks-automatic-voter-registration
 
I see what you're doing but think it's a waste of your time. And of course the burden of proof lies with you for your claims. Not sure why you're eve talking about it with out the proof.



Well, then, let's review what this thread has shown:



1. California is the state with the largest number of illegal aliens


2. They and a dozen other states give illegals IDs and driver's licenses


3. When they sign up for driver's licenses, they are automatically registered to vote.
That is, after all, the raison d'être for Democrats giving them driver's licenses and IDs, and enticing them into the country.


4. The main issue in this election was whether illegal aliens would be allowed to remain in this country....so of course they's rush to the polls to vote for Bill's wife.


5. Imbeciles....Democrats.....maintain that these honest, law-abiding non-citizens (illegal aliens) would never break the law and vote....even though they did just that to get here......
...and...

....even though the snake, Obama, told them to and that there'd be no repercussions.


6. Millions of illegal aliens voted for the loser, and Americans made Donald Trump the President.

QED
At most this is reason to investigate and nothing more. You have an incorrect definition of proof and are incredibly biased to try to pass the above as such.



But far more proof than either of these 'investigations'...

a. Trump colluded with Putin

b. Trump obstructed justice in firing Comey



Now....if illegal aliens don't vote....why did the snake, Obama, tell them to vote, and when they did, there'd be no repercussions?
Obama didn't encourage illegals to vote. He encouraged the related citizens to vote. Your fallacy has been disproved by non faux-news-hacks. Not like it would matter a whole lot compared to the liquid garbage that comes put of trumps disgusting mouth.

The Russian and Comey business deserve the attention of necessary branches of government. I'll let them handle it. Trying to prove stuff to idiots with a phone is a worthless exercise and not my job.

Overall You're at a big old ZERO in my book with this response.


"Obama didn't encourage illegals to vote."

Of course he did.





1. The first line from the lovely young lady states the premise: Illegals are citizens, she says, because she claims they contribute to the country.
a. they don't
b. Obama sits there in total agreement.



2. Then, she asks if they will be deported if they (illegally) vote....and Obama says "not true."



@ 01:40 Obama makes this outrageous claim:
"When you vote, you are a citizen yourself."



3. Obama.....being questioned about illegal voting.......encouraging illegals to vote....saying 'don't worry...no one will catch your.'

Obama answers the 'illegal citizen voting and fearful of immigration.'


'Not true,' he says....assuring the illegal voter that 'immigration will not know where you live, or come for you.'


4. Then he gives his verbal wink and a nod...'there is not a situation where the voting rolls are transferred over and people start investigating...."

The message is clear....'vote...nothing will happen to you...you won't be caught.'



5. There would be no reason to comfort a legal voter in that way.

Those are exact quotes....

...now stop lying.



Barack Obama's disrespect for the laws of our country, and for the Constitution....reveals him to be a dirt-eating low-life, crypto-Islamist, back-stabbing, infanticide-supporting incompetent snake with an unbroken record of failure, both as a President and as a human being.

True?

Great, I see you're still posting the edited version of that interview which cuts out the part where Obama says,

Rodriguez: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country are fearful of voting, so if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

Obama: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating etcetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented then you have an even greater reason to vote.

Rodriguez: This has been a huge fear presented especially during this election.

Obama: And the reason that fear is promoted is because they don't want people voting. People are discouraged from voting and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself. You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school...

Rodriguez: Your entire community.

Obama: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.


 
This is from the article that you posted, idiot -

"However, our results also support the arguments made by voting and immigrant rights organizations that the portion of non-citizen immigrants who participate in U.S. elections is quite small. Indeed, given the extraordinary efforts made by the Obama and McCain campaigns to mobilize voters in 2008, the relatively small portion of non-citizens who voted in 2008 likely exceeded the portion of non-citizens voting in other recent U.S. elections."

So what exactly are you whining about, again?

Repug voter suppression of minorities is a much bigger problem, as indicated in this recent N. Carolina appeals court ruling. Even the arch-conservative U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear this case, after the Repug N. Carolina government objected:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html?_r=0

You see a pattern here, lightweight? I, the liberal, present real evidence to support my position. You, the hopelessly stupid, unsophisticated Repug partisan goober hack, present absolutely nothing.

You've got nothing, Repug lightweight. You're nothing but a sad Trump clown. Go put your clown suit on.



"However, our results also support the arguments made by voting and immigrant rights organizations that the portion of non-citizen immigrants who participate in U.S. elections is quite small."


Sooo...you've provided an admission that illegal aliens vote.

Excellent beginning.

You should continue in this vein, and admit that your incapable of thinking, and simply parrot DNC talking point.


Immediately.

Not really. "Quite small" can mean nothing. What's shameful is how you've exaggerated this "problem" immensely, like the intellectually dishonest Trump Repug clown that are. While ignoring the much bigger voter suppression problem, of course.

Not that your shameful dishonesty bothers you at all.


"Quite small" can mean nothing."

But you don't now what it means, huh?

It is an admission that illegal aliens vote...illegally....just as the snake, Obama, told them to.




Now...how about admitting that your posts are dictated directly from the DNC.

Waiting.
Well since you can name only one illegal alien who voted in 2016, it's safe to say -- "small" isn't 3,000,000.


Soooo....you're retreated to now admitting that illegal aliens did vote?

Excellent.


How many?
I'm using the number YOU actually found to have voted in the election.....


One.

:mm:
 
Bravo. You met my expectations. Carry on with your screed-thread.


Come back for more anytime your masochism kicks in.

Honestly, it's weird. I drive by your threads occasionally the way I drive by wrecks at the side of the road, just sort of in awe at the amount of destructiveness and vituperation that you bring into the USMB. I just can't take them seriously. Your prideful and cherry picked pseudo science arguments and doctrinaire divisiveness of our fellow Americans is sad to me. I and I also feel a deep and despairing sadness behind your seemingly brave posts and hollow boasts, and honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune.



You haven't said anything beyond "pleeeeesssseee don't hurt my widdle feelings!!!!"

You have an open invitation to quote any part of the thread and watch me rip your post to shreds.





"...honestly I pray for you to see the goodness in your fellow Americans one day. I wish you nothing but good fortune."

You appear to be one of those really boring people who use their fingers to air-quote as they speak.

I nailed it, huh?
What else needs to be said that hasn't already thoroughly debunked your bullshit? At this point, this thread drags on for no reason other than the entertainment value of watching you wallow in your own logorrhea. Meanwhile, your thread is debunked....

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​



Why are your forced to default to vulgarity?

Is it because of how thoroughly defeated you feel?
Why do you whine about vulgarity to avoid responding to content?

Here it is again, sans vulgarity, so you have no excuse to keep running like you do....

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​
 
The imaginary illegal alien vote.
Parallels the imaginary successful Trump administration.

My wife works for the election board in my state and she says there are so many safeguards anyone claiming massive fraud are idiots.

Isn't that what Tramp said?

Nuffsaid.


Guess again, you dunce:

"AB60 licenses are said to require proof of identity, but the use of a Mexican Consular Card has been brought into serious question. A Mexican Federal Electoral Card, Mexican Institute National Electoral Card, Mexican Passport, or Mexican Consular Card are accepted as forms of ID to procure a California driver license. Several other types of foreign identification cards may be used as well."
California Licenses 800K Illegal Aliens as Motor Voter Law Looms - Breitbart
Just how ignorant are you??

How many times are you going to point out how illegal aliens are getting AB-60 driver's licenses as evidence of illegal voting when you are shown over and over and over again that AB-60 licenses cannot be used to vote...

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

... can't be used to register to vote from a DMV like citizens can...

Election Code, Division II, Chapter 4.5 § 2263

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.

... and from your own source, the L.A. Times...

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​



Of course the bogus IDs and driver's licenses are intended to be used for the purpose of voting for Democrats.

There is no other explanation for elected Democrats devising the scam for criminals....law-breakers....who illegally invaded our country.

They increase unemployment, cost vast sums in welfare benefits, weigh down the justice system, and decrease the standard of living for real Americans.

Yet.....Democrats give them documents that allow them to vote.....it's a quid pro quo.

See:
130914030112-dnt-ca-undocumented-immigrant-drivers-licenses-00002129-story-top.jpg
No matter how many time you lie about this -- you've been shown repeatedly how illegal aliens can't register to vote with an AB-60 license.

Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.
 
In other words, egregious corruption is perfectly acceptable to low IQ Repugs such as yourself, as long as no "crime" is being committed. Got it.

Let me break it down for you, unsophisticated lightweight....you ain't clever, you're just intellectually dishonest and pathetically stupid.



"....no "crime" is being committed."



Exactly....no crime.

Hence, your avi title identifies you as exactly what you are, an easily led imbecile.

True?

This coming from the dumb fuck who used an article as evidence when the article stated that the illegal alien voting "problem" is very small.

Your shit is weak, Repug. You've got no facts, no game, and no intellect.


Your language, learned from the bathroom wall, is exactly what should be expected from one of your perspective.
And here we have PoliticalHack's white flag -- where she bitches about vulgarity as a cover for not being able to refute a post.

:banana:



1. I am always amazed at how low-class your side is....as you prove with the vulgarity.

2. I did refute your attempt to hide the Democrat scam of accretion of voted from illegal aliens.
LOLOLOL

All you've proven is that you're a lying imbecile who doesn't understand plain English...


Assembly Bill No. 60

This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.

... can't be used to register to vote from a DMV like citizens can...

Election Code, Division II, Chapter 4.5 § 2263

(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.

... and from your own source, the L.A. Times...

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

What about people in the country illegally who are able to obtain driver's licenses in California under a law passed in 2013?

Padilla noted that there is already a separate process for residents in the country illegally to apply for special licenses. Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process. People applying for the special licenses will not be asked about their eligibility to vote and will not be asked if they’d like to opt out of registration.

We’ve built the protocols and the firewalls to not register people that aren’t eligible,” Padilla said. “We’re going to keep those firewalls in place."​



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