Union Boss salaries- They have a lot in common with the people they represent

[JakeStarkey]

I will add fraud is rampant in ALL areas, not just with the unions.
But the unions ARE THE ONLY ones that back their employees up AFTER have been proven guilty of it. Amazing. Teachers unions are one of the worse. How can any ethical American ever support unions?

Yes, all sectors of our professional world are corrupt, our businesses by far the most corrupt, as they produce deficient or dangerous products and only take responsibility when forced to by government and the courts, then whine about it.

Our teacher unions are not the problem with public ed, G. Our problems are the NCLB monstrosity and the parents who won't make Jonny and Janny to their work, do it well, and turn it in on time.

Want to turn public ed around? Make a weekly no pass no play in any and all extra curricular or inter mural activity, enforce it zero tolerance the first two weeks of school, and watch student behavior change immediately,

 

[Gadawg73]

I will add fraud is rampant in ALL areas, not just with the unions.
But the unions ARE THE ONLY ones that back their employees up AFTER have been proven guilty of it.
Amazing. Teachers unions are one of the worse.
How can any ethical American ever support unions?

I think it depends on the union. I was part of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union when I worked on the kill floor of a meat-packing plant. There was one guy who was a total fuck-up. He didn't come into work half the time, and when he did, he did nothing but goof off. Management informed the union they were going to fire the guy, and the union said "fire away." They did nothing to stop the termination because everyone knew the guy deserved it. I have no problems with unions that are reasonable and flexible. The ones that are obstinate, confrontational and rigid are the ones I have problems with. Of course, I have problems with those kinds of companies too.

Fraud and ex-wives have two things in common. They come in all sizes and shapes and when they leave they all back up a truck.

 

[SniperFire]

BY THE HOUR: If you assume the CEO works a 60-hour week, the pay comes to $3,072.84 per hour, or $51.21 per minute. To put that in perspective, the minimum wage worker would have to labor more than 10 weeks to make what the median CEO earns in an hour. It would take the average U.S. worker nearly a month to make what the average CEO makes in an hour.

Liberal lie, much?

A quick chase of your links shows they are only talking about top-paid CEO's, not 'average CEO.'

 

[JakeStarkey]

BY THE HOUR: If you assume the CEO works a 60-hour week, the pay comes to $3,072.84 per hour, or $51.21 per minute. To put that in perspective, the minimum wage worker would have to labor more than 10 weeks to make what the median CEO earns in an hour. It would take the average U.S. worker nearly a month to make what the average CEO makes in an hour.

Liberal lie, much?

A quick chase of your links shows they are only talking about top-paid CEO's, not 'average CEO.'

MissFire makes an assertion without evidence. Move along. A survey of the material shows PJ is correct.

 

[SniperFire]

BY THE HOUR: If you assume the CEO works a 60-hour week, the pay comes to $3,072.84 per hour, or $51.21 per minute. To put that in perspective, the minimum wage worker would have to labor more than 10 weeks to make what the median CEO earns in an hour. It would take the average U.S. worker nearly a month to make what the average CEO makes in an hour.

Liberal lie, much?

A quick chase of your links shows they are only talking about top-paid CEO's, not 'average CEO.'

MissFire makes an assertion without evidence. Move along. A survey of the material shows PJ is correct.

It is the Huffpo spam article which makes the assertion without evidence.

Follow the links in the story and you will find the truth. Of course, you aren't interested in the truth, are you, concerned troll?

 

[Gadawg73]

Mick Jagger makes about 80 million a year when they tour.
They play maybe 50 shows in 4 months.
So he works maybe 15 hours a week and makes 3 million a week.
$200,000.00 a hour.
Barbara Streisdan got a million a performance in Vegas for some shows.
$300,000.00 a hour
Of course media and the liberal love them so they get a pass.

 

[zeke]

Of course, you aren't interested in the truth, are you, concerned troll?

And you are? LMAO Funniest thing you have written in a while.

You are interested in your version of the truth. As we all are.

 

[zeke]

Gawdawg, you do know Mick is from Great Britian.

Naw. Prolly not.


And those kinds of people (athletes, entertainers, etc) are some of the very same people that Rethugs fight tooth and nail to keep them from paying higher taxes. Like they vote Rethug.

Cracks me up.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Liberal lie, much?

A quick chase of your links shows they are only talking about top-paid CEO's, not 'average CEO.'

MissFire makes an assertion without evidence. Move along. A survey of the material shows PJ is correct.

It is the Huffpo spam article which makes the assertion without evidence.

Follow the links in the story and you will find the truth. Of course, you aren't interested in the truth, are you, concerned troll?

Nope, it is you asserts without evidence. Go research, little one, and learn,

 

[SniperFire]

MissFire makes an assertion without evidence. Move along. A survey of the material shows PJ is correct.

It is the Huffpo spam article which makes the assertion without evidence.

Follow the links in the story and you will find the truth. Of course, you aren't interested in the truth, are you, concerned troll?

Nope, it is you asserts without evidence

Wrong. The Huffpo article asserts, but in it's own link provided reveals they are only talking about 'Top CEO pay.'

Do you really think the median CEO in America makes 10 million a year, idiot?

 

[JakeStarkey]

What CEOs do you think we are talking about, HangFire. You are trying to make union bosses the equivalent to the top CEOs, the 1%. They are not., Thank you for yanking the rug out from under yourself.

 

[Gadawg73]

Gawdawg, you do know Mick is from Great Britian.

Naw. Prolly not.


And those kinds of people (athletes, entertainers, etc) are some of the very same people that Rethugs fight tooth and nail to keep them from paying higher taxes. Like they vote Rethug.

Cracks me up.

Mick Jagger is a tax exile from Great Britain.
In 1972 the Rolling Stones left Great Britain and set up shop in the south of France for tax purposes. Same with Phil Collins and most British wealthy.
Wouldn't you?
You are slow zeke. 40 years behind the times.
Wake up, time has passed you by.
Next time know your subject.
Zeke, put brain in gear before post in motion.
I know you feel stupid now but no worries. I have to educate the slow learning short bus folk like you all the time. I enjoy it.
You are welcome.

 

[JakeStarkey]

G is telling us he is an intelligence spook in another thread, and here he is telling us he is a spooky businessman.

Lucy, you got 'splain' to do!

 

[thereisnospoon]

CEO Pay: Highest Salaries Equal 3,489 Years For Typical Worker

CEO Pay: Highest Salaries Equal 3,489 Years For Typical Worker

WASHINGTON -- David Simon of Simon Property received a pay package worth more than $137 million for last year, and the typical CEO took home $9.6 million, according to an analysis by The Associated Press.

Here are some ways to think about just how much money those salaries represent.

Simon's $137 million is almost entirely in stock awards that could eventually be worth $132 million. The company said it wanted to make sure Simon wasn't lured to another company.

HOW LONG IT TAKES OTHERS TO MAKE THAT MUCH: A minimum wage worker – paid $7.25 per hour, as some workers at Simon malls are – would have to work one month shy of 9,096 years to make what Simon made last year. A person making the national median salary, $39,312 by AP calculations, would have to work 3,489 years.

BY THE HOUR: Assuming Simon worked a 60-hour week, his pay was $43,963.64 per hour, or $732.73 per minute. To put that in perspective, the minimum-wage worker would have to labor for nearly three years to make what Simon earns in an hour. The average U.S. worker makes slightly less in one year than Simon makes in an hour.

COMPARED WITH AMERICA'S CEO: Simon makes about 342 times the $400,000 annual salary of President Barack Obama. In fact, if you add the salaries of Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, the Cabinet, the Supreme Court justices, all the members of the Senate and House of Representatives and all 50 governors, it is less than $110 million, so Simon makes well more than government's top 600 leaders. In the past 100 years, U.S. taxpayers have paid a total of $80.6 million, adjusted for inflation, to presidents from Woodrow Wilson to Obama.

The median CEO salary of $9.587 million:

HOW LONG IT TAKES OTHERS TO MAKE THAT MUCH: A minimum wage worker would have to work 636 years to make that much. A person making the national average salary would have to work 244 years to make the median CEO salary.

BY THE HOUR: If you assume the CEO works a 60-hour week, the pay comes to $3,072.84 per hour, or $51.21 per minute. To put that in perspective, the minimum wage worker would have to labor more than 10 weeks to make what the median CEO earns in an hour. It would take the average U.S. worker nearly a month to make what the average CEO makes in an hour.


COMPARED WITH AMERICA'S CEO: The CEO who made the median salary took in 12 times the total $789,674 in gross income that President Obama reported last year. But it is less than half the $20.9 million in income that presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney reported in his tax filing.

And your point is?....
You people cannot let go of the falsehood of the zero sum game.

 

[thereisnospoon]

MissFire makes an assertion without evidence. Move along. A survey of the material shows PJ is correct.

It is the Huffpo spam article which makes the assertion without evidence.

Follow the links in the story and you will find the truth. Of course, you aren't interested in the truth, are you, concerned troll?

Nope, it is you asserts without evidence. Go research, little one, and learn,

mere denial of the facts is not a defense.
It's just childish.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The next great recession or depression, munchkin mind, will sweep in the Democrats and a new wave of unionism that will make the old one look like open shop days. One of the results will be the complete unionization of public sector jobs. You think businesses are crying now, in this the best possible situation versus labor in 80 years? Munchkin minds, for sure. Most of us businessmen, unfortunately, are so close minded about being fair with the work force,

There you go with the " I have no rebuttal so I will hurl insults" routine. Shit. According to Obama, we're on the road to economic recovery. Great recession. So which is it?

I clearly, cogently, competently answered your whining. I told you what is going to happen, which you know is true. The point is that you will not be fair to your workers. They have the votes, and they will throw your reps and sens out eventually and replace them with union friendly legislators.

You support Obama all you want, I am voting for Romney.

no..You rendered your opinion of what you believe may happen.
Look, unions are dead. 35% in the 60's 8% today....
Where are the union workers in your company?

 

[JakeStarkey]

There you go with the " I have no rebuttal so I will hurl insults" routine. Shit. According to Obama, we're on the road to economic recovery. Great recession. So which is it?

I clearly, cogently, competently answered your whining. I told you what is going to happen, which you know is true. The point is that you will not be fair to your workers. They have the votes, and they will throw your reps and sens out eventually and replace them with union friendly legislators.

You support Obama all you want, I am voting for Romney.

no..You rendered your opinion of what you believe may happen.
Look, unions are dead. 35% in the 60's 8% today....
Where are the union workers in your company?

spoon, I told you what is going to happen based on history and the behavior of folks like you. The uniions have been "dead" before and came back. Break the economy again and they will kick the front door down your throat.

Do you have a union in your places of business?

 

[Too Tall]

Gawdawg, you do know Mick is from Great Britian.

Naw. Prolly not.


And those kinds of people (athletes, entertainers, etc) are some of the very same people that Rethugs fight tooth and nail to keep them from paying higher taxes. Like they vote Rethug.

Cracks me up.

Mick Jagger is a tax exile from Great Britain.
In 1972 the Rolling Stones left Great Britain and set up shop in the south of France for tax purposes. Same with Phil Collins and most British wealthy.
Wouldn't you?
You are slow zeke. 40 years behind the times.
Wake up, time has passed you by.
Next time know your subject.
Zeke, put brain in gear before post in motion.
I know you feel stupid now but no worries. I have to educate the slow learning short bus folk like you all the time. I enjoy it.
You are welcome.

Thanks for the info. Where are these celebs going to go when the French socialist just elected raises the tax rate to 75% as he has threatened?

 

[Too Tall]

Where are unions banned?

If you mean "right to work" states-
then what you are against people not being forced to join something

Even in a lot of those states- public employee unions are alive and well

People aren't forced to join unions in any state.

"Right to work" is a de facto ban on unions because it allows non-union members to mooch off of any work the union does. If you can get all the benefits of union membership without paying dues, why would you join a union in the first place?

People are given the option of join the union or get another job in a closed shop. I call that forced, and I speak from experience as I was once given that choice by the shop steward.

In right to work states peer pressure and intimidation are used by union members on the job to get non-union members to join the union.

 

[zeke]

Mick Jagger makes about 80 million a year when they tour.
They play maybe 50 shows in 4 months.
So he works maybe 15 hours a week and makes 3 million a week.
$200,000.00 a hour.
Barbara Streisdan got a million a performance in Vegas for some shows.
$300,000.00 a hour

Gawdawagagea Youare fuking stupid. As you can see from your post above, you tried to equate the earnings of Mick Jagger to the fact that Dems don't bitch about him paying taxes. Or not.

But you stupid fuker, as noted in your second post, Mick Jagger still don't pay taxes in the good ole USA. If he don't live here and isn't from here what do I care.

You a dumb mfuker aren't you.


But you sure didn't have the ball to explain why you and the Rethugs care if they (entertainers, athletes) pay a higher tax rate. It aint like Barbara votes Rethug. She's samrter than that.