Uninsured rate keeps climbing under Republicans

[AntonToo]

Having initially dropped BIGLY under Obamacare uninsured rates have now been climbing back up ever since Trump won election and began messing with our healthcare:

The Uninsured Rate Is Going Up Again | HuffPost

U.S. Uninsured Rate Rises to 12.3% in Third Quarter

Or as Trumpsters would say:

Yeah, human beings are like cars, when it breaks down, you just buy a new one.

How about when some asshole comes around, starts smashing windows in the car you got and telling how he has a plan for a new car that will be twice as nice at half the cost? You then learn THERE IS NO PLAN.

 

[sealybobo]

Having initially dropped BIGLY under Obamacare uninsured rates have now been climbing back up ever since Trump won election and began messing with our healthcare:

The Uninsured Rate Is Going Up Again | HuffPost

U.S. Uninsured Rate Rises to 12.3% in Third Quarter

Or as Trumpsters would say:

This Is How Much Trump’s Obamacare Sabotage Increased Health Insurance Costs
Rates are going up 7 percent to 38 percent more than they would have otherwise.

This Is How Much Trump's Obamacare Sabotage Increased Health Insurance Costs | HuffPost

 

[oldsoul]

So, are you saying that you attribute the 1.4 point increase to a campaign promise? Is that correct?

It's not just words at this point, Trump is doing real, not just some promised damage.

Trump signs executive order that could effectively gut Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate

Trump will end health care cost-sharing subsidies - CNNPolitics

Pa. insurance department says Obamacare rates to rise 30.6 percen

None of this accounts for the numbers on the graph I was referring to, as they had not happened yet.

...of course it does, it directly comments on what caused 1.4% increase since Trump was elected.

No, it does not. The increase happened BEFORE his inauguration, therefore, he had NO ability to influence it, outside of campaign promises.

wrong, increase has been happening the entire year and is not some how limited to before inauguration.

But even as soon as Trump won ACA and its mendate came into question.

You are revealing your bias. I am not wrong, as I was referring to the increase directly after the election, hence, before Trump's inauguration. The fact that the trend continued After Jan. 21, is irrelevant to my comment.

 

[dblack]

Having initially dropped BIGLY under Obamacare uninsured rates have now been climbing back up ever since Trump won election and began messing with our healthcare:

The Uninsured Rate Is Going Up Again | HuffPost

U.S. Uninsured Rate Rises to 12.3% in Third Quarter

Or as Trumpsters would say:

Oh my Allah, you mean that if people are not forced to buy the product of well connected looters under penalty of law, the crooks who you serve lose business?

YES! I do mean that.

People who are healthy don't want to pay for insurance, UNTIL THEY ARE NOT HEALTHY.

The only way to be able to guarantee everyone access to coverage in free market based system is to mandate that they get covered healthy or not.

Back under the Capitalists, there was an option for such people - CATASTROPHIC COVERAGE.

When you Communists took over, you crushed that. Guess we normals will have to bring back common sense after it's exile under Obama...

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools.

There were no "risk pools". Uncensored2008 was referring to insurance before group policies were foisted on us.

 

[dblack]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

 

[AntonToo]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

That is simply moronic. You must rob people at gun point to ensure they don't get ripped-off?

 

[AntonToo]

Having initially dropped BIGLY under Obamacare uninsured rates have now been climbing back up ever since Trump won election and began messing with our healthcare:

The Uninsured Rate Is Going Up Again | HuffPost

U.S. Uninsured Rate Rises to 12.3% in Third Quarter

Or as Trumpsters would say:

Oh my Allah, you mean that if people are not forced to buy the product of well connected looters under penalty of law, the crooks who you serve lose business?

YES! I do mean that.

People who are healthy don't want to pay for insurance, UNTIL THEY ARE NOT HEALTHY.

The only way to be able to guarantee everyone access to coverage in free market based system is to mandate that they get covered healthy or not.

Back under the Capitalists, there was an option for such people - CATASTROPHIC COVERAGE.

When you Communists took over, you crushed that. Guess we normals will have to bring back common sense after it's exile under Obama...

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools.

There were no "risk pools". Uncensored2008 was referring to insurance before group policies were foisted on us.

Insurance is ALWAYS based on the risk pool.

 

[AntonToo]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

That is simply moronic. You must rob people at gun point to ensure they don't get ripped-off?

WTF? come down retard no one is getting robbed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

That is simply moronic. You must rob people at gun point to ensure they don't get ripped-off?

WTF? come down retard no one is getting robbed.

You demand that young, healthy people be forced to buy into health care maintenance plans they detest, then defend your larceny by claiming to "protect them."

You simply want to rob them, fact.

 

[AntonToo]

Bullshit, the primary reason it was inexpensive was because they could carve out risk pools. For anyone that didn't meet all the criterias prices went up into stratosphere quickly and forget about getting insurance if you are actually sick already.

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

That is simply moronic. You must rob people at gun point to ensure they don't get ripped-off?

WTF? come down retard no one is getting robbed.

You demand that young, healthy people be forced to buy into health care maintenance plans they detest, then defend your larceny by claiming to "protect them."

You simply want to rob them, fact.

I want them to get their ass insured, so I don't have to bail them when they break it.

Besides, young people have a tendency to get old.

 

[Zoom-boing]

YES! I do mean that.

People who are healthy don't want to pay for insurance, UNTIL THEY ARE NOT HEALTHY.

The only way to be able to guarantee everyone access to coverage in free market based system is to mandate that they get covered healthy or not.

I disagree. People who are healthy DO want to pay for insurance. They do NOT want to pay out the ass for insurance for themselves, so those with p/e's can pay the same, for everyone else.

Get rid of the essential covered benefits, bring back catastrophic plan options, allow small businesses to band together to get better rates like big companies do, allow those on the individual market to do the same, increase competition, provide more options because one size does not fit all. Costs will come down. They mandated a demand (insurance) but did not mandate a supply (doctors, nurses, etc). Prices will skyrocket until it collapses.

 

[dblack]

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

It doesn't sound like you understand what insurance is. People buy insurance to get compensation on potential future illness or injuries. People who are already sick don't need health insurance. The need health care.

 

[deanrd]

Uninsured rate keeps climbing under Republicans

Don't give them any more reason to celebrate!

 

[deanrd]

It's not that Republicans want Americans to die. They want them to suffer first. They believe that gives them humor. They don't seem so awful then.

 

[dblack]

Why wouldn't they? They never stopped climbing under Obama. ObamaCare was never designed to lower health care costs. That was a ruse that you fools bought into and what's dumb founding is how you all continue to defend the program despite not meeting the deliverables we were falsely promised.

Obama's not president. He's not the one sabotaging the healthcare system.

This was the GOP plan all along. Admit it.

Duh? Dr. Trump will see you now.

 

[AntonToo]

Why would an insurance company ever sell insurance to someone who is already sick? How does this make ANY sense?

EXACTLY and that's why we need a mandate - so people can get insured, but don't abuse the system.

It doesn't sound like you understand what insurance is. People buy insurance to get compensation on potential future illness or injuries. People who are already sick don't need health insurance. The need health care.

Healthcare they can’t pay for most often!

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I want them to get their ass insured, so I don't have to bail them when they break it.

Besides, young people have a tendency to get old.

You want to force them onto health care maintenance plans. That is not insurance and most of them have no need for it.

You want this because you want their money to offset the losses that the scheme takes from those who have prior conditions.

 

[AntonToo]

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I want them to get their ass insured, so I don't have to bail them when they break it.

Besides, young people have a tendency to get old.

You want to force them onto health care maintenance plans. That is not insurance and most of them have no need for it.

You want this because you want their money to offset the losses that the scheme takes from those who have prior conditions.

Dumbass - THEY, are me. I'm young, healthy and subsidize healthcare of older and sick.

And I don't mind, because I have the foresight to know that one day me and mine will too be old and/or sick.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I want them to get their ass insured, so I don't have to bail them when they break it.

Besides, young people have a tendency to get old.

You want to force them onto health care maintenance plans. That is not insurance and most of them have no need for it.

You want this because you want their money to offset the losses that the scheme takes from those who have prior conditions.

Dumbass - THEY, are me. I'm just talking from objective position about the market.

Younger people need to have a catastrophic policy to cover serious injury or illness. But what you and the other socialists have done is akin to if instead of insurance on our cars, you designed a scheme where "insurance" would pay for tires, car washes, oil changes, and repairs, rather than just covering in the case of accidents.