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The hyperbole of the left is reaching new heights.
No hyperbole at all. My statement stands. We democrats want everyone to have health care, just like everyone over 65 have Medicare. If you get hung up on saying, '... that is not "insurance"', then simply don't call it insurance.
You democrats want a lot of things that are stupid.
You can't even define what health care is. When do you decide that people got "health care" ? You've never answered that question.
Having spent 50 years in the health insurance business, drafting health insurance policies, I assure you that I know what "health care" is. In the contract under which you are insured, it is, "Care and treatment of the insured for body or mental disorder, or injury."
You had caps on your policies ?
Many were capped at a Mil.
He didn't compare the value of a human life to a boat. He made a statement about how insurance works. Of course you knew that, I hope.Comparing the value of a human life to a boat? Have the RW pro-life advocates wandered off the path leading to the sanctityDomestic abuse survivors and mothers could also see be denied coverage or see their premiums increased under the plan.
When House Republicans passed the American Health Care Act on Thursday, many Americans likely thought of their family and friends living with cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. These diseases are commonly referred to as “pre-existing conditions” – conditions which, under the Republican health care bill, could result in them being denied health insurance.
But another, less publicised group of people were also concerned by the bill's passage: rape survivors.
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies considered rape and domestic abuse pre-existing conditions. One woman, Jody Neal-Post, says she was turned away after telling a potential insurance that she was a domestic violence victim – despite otherwise being perfectly healthy.
Half of the top 16 insurance companies in the US in 1994 admitted they considered domestic violence in factor in determining premiums, and whether or not to deny someone coverage.
Under Obamacare, that changed: The law prohibited employers from denying coverage or racking up premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. It also prohibited insurers from “gender rating,” or charging more for insurance just for being a woman. The number of uninsured women went from 19 per cent to just 8 per cent after it was passed.
The new American Health Care Act, however, contains an amendment allows states to opt out of protections for pre-existing conditions. That means women like Ms Neal-Post could once again find themselves unable to find coverage.
More: Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition
Unbelievable - and unconscionable! This should infuriate all women. Even as a man - I'm infuriated. By definition - rape is not a choice.
/--- If I buy an expensive boat but no insurance then wreck it, can I buy insurance after the fact and have the insurance company fix the damage?The cracked hull is pre existing.
of life? If you are a religious person there is no excuse for your cold blooded assertion. Fall on your knees and ask God to forgive you.
If you are an atheist, your Godless mindset is more understandable. But even some atheists have compassion. Secular Humanism embraces many facets of Christianity. I suspect,though, that you serve no god but Mammon.
We are moving away from true medical insurance to a government entitlement. In the case of true insurance, buying a policy to pay for a pre existing condition is called insurance fraud. And it has nothing to do with comparing the value of a human life to the value of a boat,
The hyperbole of the left is reaching new heights.
No hyperbole at all. My statement stands. We democrats want everyone to have health care, just like everyone over 65 have Medicare. If you get hung up on saying, '... that is not "insurance"', then simply don't call it insurance.
You democrats want a lot of things that are stupid.
You can't even define what health care is. When do you decide that people got "health care" ? You've never answered that question.
Having spent 50 years in the health insurance business, drafting health insurance policies, I assure you that I know what "health care" is. In the contract under which you are insured, it is, "Care and treatment of the insured for body or mental disorder, or injury."
You had caps on your policies ?
There were caps on most policies before Obamcare was signed.
Read page 70. It will prove you all wrong-
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-115hr1628rh/pdf/BILLS-115hr1628rh.pdf
(a) Modification of Definition of Qualified Health Plan.--
(1) In general.--Section 36B(c)(3)(A) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--
(A) by inserting ``(determined without regard to
subparagraphs (A), (C)(ii), and (C)(iv) of paragraph
(1) thereof and without regard to whether the plan is
offered on an Exchange)'' after ``1301(a) of the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act'', and
(B) by striking ``shall not include'' and all that
follows and inserting ``shall not include any health
plan that--
``(i) is a grandfathered health plan or a
grandmothered health plan, or
``(ii) includes coverage for abortions
(other than any abortion necessary to save the
life of the mother or any abortion with respect
to a pregnancy that is the result of an act of
rape or incest;
Not only is rape a pre-existing condition to them, but they think a mother pregnant by rape should be forced to carry the child with no benefits or assistance to the mother or the child.
Vote them out in 2018.
Read page 70. It will prove you all wrong-
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-115hr1628rh/pdf/BILLS-115hr1628rh.pdf
(a) Modification of Definition of Qualified Health Plan.--
(1) In general.--Section 36B(c)(3)(A) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--
(A) by inserting ``(determined without regard to
subparagraphs (A), (C)(ii), and (C)(iv) of paragraph
(1) thereof and without regard to whether the plan is
offered on an Exchange)'' after ``1301(a) of the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act'', and
(B) by striking ``shall not include'' and all that
follows and inserting ``shall not include any health
plan that--
``(i) is a grandfathered health plan or a
grandmothered health plan, or
``(ii) includes coverage for abortions
(other than any abortion necessary to save the
life of the mother or any abortion with respect
to a pregnancy that is the result of an act of
rape or incest;
Not only is rape a pre-existing condition to them, but they think a mother pregnant by rape should be forced to carry the child with no benefits or assistance to the mother or the child.
Vote them out in 2018.
That's an old version of the Bill. One that DIED before a vote. It's an old trick to rile up the partisans. Go look at the Passed version and see if it's in there. It's dated March 20th.
They're pro-birth. After that you're on your own.Comparing the value of a human life to a boat? Have the RW pro-life advocates wandered off the path leading to the sanctityDomestic abuse survivors and mothers could also see be denied coverage or see their premiums increased under the plan.
When House Republicans passed the American Health Care Act on Thursday, many Americans likely thought of their family and friends living with cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. These diseases are commonly referred to as “pre-existing conditions” – conditions which, under the Republican health care bill, could result in them being denied health insurance.
But another, less publicised group of people were also concerned by the bill's passage: rape survivors.
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies considered rape and domestic abuse pre-existing conditions. One woman, Jody Neal-Post, says she was turned away after telling a potential insurance that she was a domestic violence victim – despite otherwise being perfectly healthy.
Half of the top 16 insurance companies in the US in 1994 admitted they considered domestic violence in factor in determining premiums, and whether or not to deny someone coverage.
Under Obamacare, that changed: The law prohibited employers from denying coverage or racking up premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. It also prohibited insurers from “gender rating,” or charging more for insurance just for being a woman. The number of uninsured women went from 19 per cent to just 8 per cent after it was passed.
The new American Health Care Act, however, contains an amendment allows states to opt out of protections for pre-existing conditions. That means women like Ms Neal-Post could once again find themselves unable to find coverage.
More: Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition
Unbelievable - and unconscionable! This should infuriate all women. Even as a man - I'm infuriated. By definition - rape is not a choice.
/--- If I buy an expensive boat but no insurance then wreck it, can I buy insurance after the fact and have the insurance company fix the damage?The cracked hull is pre existing.
of life? If you are a religious person there is no excuse for your cold blooded assertion. Fall on your knees and ask God to forgive you.
If you are an atheist, your Godless mindset is more understandable. But even some atheists have compassion. Secular Humanism embraces many facets of Christianity. I suspect,though, that you serve no god but Mammon.
Washington Redskin, stay out of the firewaterDomestic abuse survivors and mothers could also see be denied coverage or see their premiums increased under the plan.
When House Republicans passed the American Health Care Act on Thursday, many Americans likely thought of their family and friends living with cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. These diseases are commonly referred to as “pre-existing conditions” – conditions which, under the Republican health care bill, could result in them being denied health insurance.
But another, less publicised group of people were also concerned by the bill's passage: rape survivors.
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies considered rape and domestic abuse pre-existing conditions. One woman, Jody Neal-Post, says she was turned away after telling a potential insurance that she was a domestic violence victim – despite otherwise being perfectly healthy.
Half of the top 16 insurance companies in the US in 1994 admitted they considered domestic violence in factor in determining premiums, and whether or not to deny someone coverage.
Under Obamacare, that changed: The law prohibited employers from denying coverage or racking up premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. It also prohibited insurers from “gender rating,” or charging more for insurance just for being a woman. The number of uninsured women went from 19 per cent to just 8 per cent after it was passed.
The new American Health Care Act, however, contains an amendment allows states to opt out of protections for pre-existing conditions. That means women like Ms Neal-Post could once again find themselves unable to find coverage.
More: Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition
Unbelievable - and unconscionable! This should infuriate all women. Even as a man - I'm infuriated. By definition - rape is not a choice.
Can anyone cite a provision in the bill that makes rape a preexisting condition?
Obamacare protects that from happening. Trumpcare does not.
So no. Have you read any of the bill?
Have you thoroughly read the OP?
I believe so. Trumpcare would turn the stomach of any decent person.If a man is raped - will he then also have a preexisting condition under Trumpcare?
No hyperbole at all. My statement stands. We democrats want everyone to have health care, just like everyone over 65 have Medicare. If you get hung up on saying, '... that is not "insurance"', then simply don't call it insurance.
You democrats want a lot of things that are stupid.
You can't even define what health care is. When do you decide that people got "health care" ? You've never answered that question.
Having spent 50 years in the health insurance business, drafting health insurance policies, I assure you that I know what "health care" is. In the contract under which you are insured, it is, "Care and treatment of the insured for body or mental disorder, or injury."
You had caps on your policies ?
Many were capped at a Mil.
When I entered my health insurance career in 1966, I rated group health policies. Our typical policy had a $20 Room and Board benefit, $200 surgical benefit, $4 per day doctor visit, and a $5,000 major medical lifetime (or calendar year, if you wanted to pay more) maximum. The typical monthly premium per employee was about $35 to $40 per month.
That link is the Mar 20th version when I click on it. What I quoted says it will cover an abortion in the case of incest or rape, or the health of the mother. Not sure what you mean, flacaltenn.Read page 70. It will prove you all wrong-
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-115hr1628rh/pdf/BILLS-115hr1628rh.pdf
(a) Modification of Definition of Qualified Health Plan.--
(1) In general.--Section 36B(c)(3)(A) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--
(A) by inserting ``(determined without regard to
subparagraphs (A), (C)(ii), and (C)(iv) of paragraph
(1) thereof and without regard to whether the plan is
offered on an Exchange)'' after ``1301(a) of the
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act'', and
(B) by striking ``shall not include'' and all that
follows and inserting ``shall not include any health
plan that--
``(i) is a grandfathered health plan or a
grandmothered health plan, or
``(ii) includes coverage for abortions
(other than any abortion necessary to save the
life of the mother or any abortion with respect
to a pregnancy that is the result of an act of
rape or incest;
Not only is rape a pre-existing condition to them, but they think a mother pregnant by rape should be forced to carry the child with no benefits or assistance to the mother or the child.
Vote them out in 2018.
That's an old version of the Bill. One that DIED before a vote. It's an old trick to rile up the partisans. Go look at the Passed version and see if it's in there. It's dated March 20th.
Domestic abuse survivors and mothers could also see be denied coverage or see their premiums increased under the plan.
When House Republicans passed the American Health Care Act on Thursday, many Americans likely thought of their family and friends living with cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. These diseases are commonly referred to as “pre-existing conditions” – conditions which, under the Republican health care bill, could result in them being denied health insurance.
But another, less publicised group of people were also concerned by the bill's passage: rape survivors.
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies considered rape and domestic abuse pre-existing conditions. One woman, Jody Neal-Post, says she was turned away after telling a potential insurance that she was a domestic violence victim – despite otherwise being perfectly healthy.
Half of the top 16 insurance companies in the US in 1994 admitted they considered domestic violence in factor in determining premiums, and whether or not to deny someone coverage.
Under Obamacare, that changed: The law prohibited employers from denying coverage or racking up premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. It also prohibited insurers from “gender rating,” or charging more for insurance just for being a woman. The number of uninsured women went from 19 per cent to just 8 per cent after it was passed.
The new American Health Care Act, however, contains an amendment allows states to opt out of protections for pre-existing conditions. That means women like Ms Neal-Post could once again find themselves unable to find coverage.
More: Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition
Unbelievable - and unconscionable! This should infuriate all women. Even as a man - I'm infuriated. By definition - rape is not a choice.
Domestic abuse survivors and mothers could also see be denied coverage or see their premiums increased under the plan.
When House Republicans passed the American Health Care Act on Thursday, many Americans likely thought of their family and friends living with cancer, diabetes, or heart disease. These diseases are commonly referred to as “pre-existing conditions” – conditions which, under the Republican health care bill, could result in them being denied health insurance.
But another, less publicised group of people were also concerned by the bill's passage: rape survivors.
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies considered rape and domestic abuse pre-existing conditions. One woman, Jody Neal-Post, says she was turned away after telling a potential insurance that she was a domestic violence victim – despite otherwise being perfectly healthy.
Half of the top 16 insurance companies in the US in 1994 admitted they considered domestic violence in factor in determining premiums, and whether or not to deny someone coverage.
Under Obamacare, that changed: The law prohibited employers from denying coverage or racking up premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. It also prohibited insurers from “gender rating,” or charging more for insurance just for being a woman. The number of uninsured women went from 19 per cent to just 8 per cent after it was passed.
The new American Health Care Act, however, contains an amendment allows states to opt out of protections for pre-existing conditions. That means women like Ms Neal-Post could once again find themselves unable to find coverage.
More: Under New Health-Care Bill, Rape Is a Preexisting Condition
Unbelievable - and unconscionable! This should infuriate all women. Even as a man - I'm infuriated. By definition - rape is not a choice.
